Latest mod pictures...my hybrid Ibiza - now sold!

[brad1]

Same happened with Jonjay on standard turbo, boosting weird so if I'm correct maf n75 etc were changed and problem still occurred, Jonjay will correct me but it was the turbo oil seals that had gone. My bet is now on turbo as all sensors have been checked and are working fine, I'm sure this must be a stressy time for you ash but this is not wills fault and i've met him and he is the type of person that won't quit till it's perfect, you are in safe hands and that Will will get it sorted for you

 

[P-torque.co.uk]

Same happened with Jonjay on standard turbo, boosting weird so if I'm correct maf n75 etc were changed and problem still occurred, Jonjay will correct me but it was the turbo oil seals that had gone. My bet is now on turbo as all sensors have been checked and are working fine, I'm sure this must be a stressy time for you ash but this is not wills fault and i've met him and he is the type of person that won't quit till it's perfect, you are in safe hands and that Will will get it sorted for you

Thanks for the kind words Brad!

No word of lie, I have actually been kept up racking my brain over this one! It will take patience, but it will be perfect before I am happy

 

[sidennis28]

Ash,

Maybe you should put a sandard map on, this way you could rule out sensor and turbo problems. I have a standard map on disc if you can get hold of vagcom.

 

[air121005]

You can see where it is atm. So just flip that pipe over and HOPEFULLY all will be sorted! I'm literally praying it is! And my bottom arm bush is split in half apparently. Do they do a Cupra upgrade?

I'd say it was the left hand side one by the sounds of it but i'll do both while I'm at it.

cupra bushes are solid rubber, where as the sport ones are pretty much hollow
i changed mine for the cupra ones, about £8 each IIRC, makes a lot of difference!
changing them is a pain, you'll need to remove the locating part and use a large vice to press them in (cut the old ones out ), orget the dealer to do it, think i got quoted an hours labour to do both, which on reflection (it was a ballache of a job, took all afternoon) was a good price and wish i'd of let them do it!

part numbers in the FAQ section

 

[air121005]

Just noticed that Tall Pall's Ibiza had the map sensor in the same place as mine! Just hoping that mine has some weird fetish that likes it the other way up!

looking at the 2 pics, ..........
if you look your map pipe and adjoining pipework its "pointing down" where as Tall Pauls pipe run is more horizontal.
this low point in the pipe run will give oil a chance to form a puddle.
maybe ceause pauls is horizontal, puddles aren't able to form thus submerging the sensor.........

maybe..............

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

Well, I got up early, took the bumper off again, took the pipework off and there was not ONE spec of oil in the pipework, let alone on the map sensor. It couldn't have been a problem with oil submerging the map sensor as there wasn't any at all! I did take pics and will be posting them up as proof when I get home. I think it's fair to say the map sensor is certainly not the issue. I've spoken to quite a few fellow big turbo owners and they have all had their say. I will not be posting their opinions or mine on this forum.

 

[cupra.al]

thats a shame,did you turn the pipe over anyway?

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

would like a bigger turbo but is it really worth havin the problems

I am the only person I know to have such problems with a diesel hybrid. Petrols seem to be a bit tempremental but the dervs are normally just a case of fit the turbo, map it, job done.

I'm with you I'm afraid...

Just spoke to Ashleys dad, and it stuck at 20psi and hit limp mode on him.... indicating an actuator issue or vanes

Won't be overly pleased with Turbo Dynamics if this is the case

It didnt stick at 20psi, when going up hills, the boost tends to hold at 20psi just pulling the car up the hill. Which is exactly what it did on the way home. He was going up a hill, the turbo built up to keep the car at the same speed, holding 20psi for a while sends it into limp mode everytime. It isnt going into limp mode if you go over 20psi, only if it's pulling.

I don't see how the map sensor was soaked in oil as when i took it off today it was spotless and it was a 130 mile trip back from P-torque to get home. Surely this distance would be enough to build up "a pool" of oil in the intercooler pipework? But as I've said, it was spotless but I have moved the map sensor now, and it's still overboosting. I havent had it in limp mode as I havent gone up any hills to put the car under pressure, but I'm sure it'd go into limp mode again.

Will, I will check my emails as soon as I get home.

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

thats a shame,did you turn the pipe over anyway?

Yep. No difference whatsoever.

 

[cupra.al]

quite suprised the pipe didnt get turned over when the map sensor got changed as it was suggested you turn it over. might have got a sooner diagnosis then. Also thats not a dig at anyone.

 

[air121005]

quite suprised the pipe didnt get turned over when the map sensor got changed as it was suggested you turn it over. might have got a sooner diagnosis then.

thats what i was thinking..........
its only held on with a jubilee clip at either end, how long would that of taken to swap round.....

 

[sooty22]

could there have been any turbo damage when the car was bosting well over 30psi? which in turn might have damaged the turbo? if the veins were damaged would this cause the turbo to keep boosting high making it hit limp mode? also could the map sensor make it boost high even if its faulty, or would it just not give lower boost? maybe the car was mapped with a faulty sensor which thinks its boosting lower than it realy is? lodsa questions there maybe not my business but in curious....

 

[air121005]

remembering when Will remapped mine, he ran vag-com on mine before mapping, which would highlight the fact the sensors fooked........
but if its been mapped with a faulty MAP sensor, then doesn't it need mapping again with a working sensor

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

quite suprised the pipe didnt get turned over when the map sensor got changed as it was suggested you turn it over. might have got a sooner diagnosis then.

To be honest, that also crossed my mind.

thats what i was thinking..........
its only held on with a jubilee clip at either end, how long would that of taken to swap round.....

Exactly.

could there have been any turbo damage when the car was bosting well over 30psi? which in turn might have damaged the turbo? if the veins were damaged would this cause the turbo to keep boosting high making it hit limp mode? also could the map sensor make it boost high even if its faulty, or would it just not give lower boost? maybe the car was mapped with a faulty sensor which thinks its boosting lower than it realy is? lodsa questions there maybe not my business but in curious....

To be honest. I don't know about the turbo as it's not a thing I'm that clued up on. Although I do know that if a turbo unit is on it's way out, not only can you hear the difference but you would see a whiteish smoke out the exhaust and it would sound a bit like a supercharger.

remembering when Will remapped mine, he ran vag-com on mine before mapping, which would highlight the fact the sensors fooked........
but if its been mapped with a faulty MAP sensor, then doesn't it need mapping again with a working sensor

That is not for me to say as it's not my profession, but I must admit I would've thought that if it was a faulty map sensor then it should've been picked up first time round and that the problem should maybe have been identified then.

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

Here are my findings when changing the positon of the map sensor.

The pipework that was found with a decent amount of oil in yesterday, this is how I found it today after travelling 150 miles home from P-torque after they fitted the new map sensor:

The other end of the pipework, clearly showing the map sensor fitted into the pipework. The built up area you can see around the hole where the map sensor is it welds.

The map sensor:

The silicone pipework, still attached to the vehicle:

To the intercooler:

Map sensor part numbers:

Map sensor fitted in different position:

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

NONE of this pipework was cleaned before the pictures were taken as I'd only be dragging this problem out more for myself and not doing anyone any favours.

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

I will contact Ashley directly after this post

I have received no emails/telephone calls or private messages.

 

[sooty22]

wel this must cancel out any map issues now? one more thing crssed off the list.....

 

[philsip]

very weird this!

 

[sooty22]

will, am i correct thet when mapping that you can adjust the timing slightly..... ash has been wondering how his torque is sligtly low and am i correct here in what i say? this is no digs at anyone im just curious to see how things are done... ok, the timing can be adusted through the mapping and if it fires slightly late you lose on torque and if it fires early you wil get your bhp and not so much torque?
this make any sense?