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[Shock_Xe]

Originally posted by Saul
Patience is a virtue gentlemen

Its not far off, you'd rather they get it right than sell something that may not perform aswell as it could.

I do believe REVO are on the list for the RR day tho

I noticed that and assume they are putting they revised Demo car on the Rollers so maybe this is where we will see some info?

Hopefully I will be coming to the RR anyway with someone as my car wiull be unavaiable. See you all then

 

[andy_dea]

does anyone know if revo have a money back policy
as have not had the revo on the car for 30 days and wondering if you can get it put back to standard and some money back????

 

[monty77]

Originally posted by andy_dea
does anyone know if revo have a money back policy
as have not had the revo on the car for 30 days and wondering if you can get it put back to standard and some money back????

It's not 'that' bad is it Andy?

Unlikely they do a refund, that's what the 5hr trials are for after all

A

 

[BenS1]

Originally posted by chriskaven

BenS1,

Im sure the tuners do not configure the maps to run constantly past the knock limit.
They may run past the knock limit in extreme conditions (hot inlet temps). Engines will not last long if this is the case.

Even a small amount of knock can kill an engine very quickly and knock sensors are far from %100 accurate at detecting knock.

Knock sensors are used as a last resort to stop the engine going bang#

Regarding the octane rating, there is no way higher octane can make your car slower. Please explain?? Im sure max torque will come along and explain this one!

If this was the case then our ignition would never be retarded, which it is.

Higher Octane allows you to run more ignition advance without detonation. If your ignition is already advanced and not being retarded then the higher octane will result in less power. Why? See this link:

http://www.merkurencyclopedia.com/Fuel/fuelchem.html

Specifically paragraph 1 of the Engineering Data section, which says:

"Higher octane has a higher threshold of energy level required to start combustion, therefore there is less chance of detonation. If a engine is not detonating, higher octane WILL MAKE LESS POWER. Use the lowest octane without detonation."

So in other words, higher octane makes your fuel more difficult to ignite. The more difficult it is to ignite the fuel the less chance of detonation there is, and so the more advance you can have. But once you have advanced as far as you can then the fact that its more difficult to ignite means that it produces less power.

So, if you have a car that never detonates (And therefore retards the ignition) on 95ron fuel, then 98ron would actually make it run slower!

However all our cars DO retard the ignition (Indicating detonation) and therefore would benefit from higher octane fuel.

Cheers
Ben

 

[andy_dea]

i am going to try for something and the software to be removed, as they state

there software is the smoothest and more powerfull around
with better gains that a generic chip, but this just is not the case!

if you want to stay at a chiped stage then revo is very easy, but generic is the way forward with a remap to suit your car and mods, having it taylored to your needs with smooth initial power delivery sustainable boost and high top speeds!

 

[Madmile]

Originally posted by Shock_Xe
Revo are looking this route also, so maybe wait till then as it would be cheaper as you are already a revo customer! I have read elsewhere that the kit is complete on the golf and is ready for sale in the coming weeks so the ibiza should be very close/same!

The E05 is £900 after everything and this doesnt include the uprated injectors, FPR, modded air intake, uprated turbo intake, downpipe, fitting etc.... so could work out very expensive!!!

Hence Im going the K03s route with uprated turbo intake which has cost me only £200 in parts and should see anywhere 'upto' 250bhp

The Revo Ibiza uses a modified golf air intake pipe, and forge have said they have no intention in mass producing an air intake pipe for the ibiza. Also the Revo car runs a uprated downpipe but stock cat. For a basic e-05 kit you reqiure, E-05 Turbo £900, 4 bar fpr £65, Injectors See( atp) £250 ish, and fitting of turbo and remap, your local Vw garage will fit the turbo for £240 all inclusive, misc parts £40. Total about £2000. Pwr £250-260bhp with 270-290lbs ft. I dont think a k03s will make more than 240bhp but i may be wrong. Doesnt the leon cupra use a k03s and the ibiza r use the same turbo and you dont see any chipped leon cupra's or ibiza r's making 240bhp.

 

[Saul]

Originally posted by monty77
Which RR day is this Saul?

Ta,
A

this one

 

[Madmile]

What i am saying shock is are you not basically using a Ibiza cupra R's turbo, so your figures would be the same as that car plus your mods.???.

http://www.jabbasport.com/cuprar.html

 

[BenS1]

Originally posted by Madmile
The Revo Ibiza uses a modified golf air intake pipe, and forge have said they have no intention in mass producing an air intake pipe for the ibiza. Also the Revo car runs a uprated downpipe but stock cat. For a basic e-05 kit you reqiure, E-05 Turbo £900, 4 bar fpr £65, Injectors See( atp) £250 ish, and fitting of turbo and remap, your local Vw garage will fit the turbo for £240 all inclusive, misc parts £40. Total about £2000. Pwr £250-260bhp with 270-290lbs ft. I dont think a k03s will make more than 240bhp but i may be wrong. Doesnt the leon cupra use a k03s and the ibiza r use the same turbo and you dont see any chipped leon cupra's or ibiza r's making 240bhp.

290lb/ft! The Ibiza gearbox is said to only be safe upto 290lb/ft (320lb/ft with Quaife)!

Not forgetting that my diff rivets in my gearbox we going, and thats with just 200bhp! If a rivet goes then BANG, a nice hole in the gearbox apparently!

Cheers
Ben

 

[Madmile]

I can not be 100% sure on torque or power Ben thats why i put 270-290lbs ft. I think if u make 250bhp then 270/275lbs ft will be about right. For all i know e-05 will only make 230bhp, but someones got to try it and i dont mind because if it does not do what i want i will trade the car in a get a new 225bhp Lcr and let Amd chip it.

 

[Madmile]

Yank super kinetics ko4 equiped golf, once a proper tuner got there hands on it, claims of 250-265bhp@wheels were claimed. I find it hard to believe but 260bhp@crank should not be a problem, and the torque is certainly there i am sure someone like jabba can extract the power from an e05, and still maintain decent torque holding further up the rev range.

http://www.sportcompactracing.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=641

 

[Dormouse]

Originally posted by andy_dea

if you want to stay at a chiped stage then revo is very easy, but generic is the way forward with a remap to suit your car and mods, having it taylored to your needs with smooth initial power delivery sustainable boost and high top speeds!

Umnn...call me a cynic, but you can't have power everywhere in the range. That's why I'm guessing REVO actually have the SPS3, so when you do want more you can increase the Ignition and /timing settings.

The K03 is limited, cos it's ickle, and it's flow is severley limited at the top end. Maybe you engine is just not 'one of the better ones?'

In order to actually try and get the big MPH figures stared here, you either need massive power 'Badger Stylee' or a feckin' big run up.

Cheers

Dor.

 

[CustardCupra]

Also peeps lets not lose sight of the fact that if you do wait for REVO EO5 it is still REVO generic mapping .
Which IMO at 200bhp level isn't cutting the mustard .

Choice REVO EO5 OR Jabba mapped EO5

I know which way i will be going .

Look at the stats logically REVO claim 212 bhp compared to my AMD 203 bhp ,
Which is the faster car ?????

REVO not a sniff .
AMD equipped ibiza everyday of the week @ a loss of 9 bhp in comparison .
So what makes you think REVO will do any better than anyone else with EO5.

You pays your money etc etc as some of you are finding out unfortunately.

 

[CustardCupra]

Classic E.G of chipping .
Blkcupra took his car down to jabba for a remap ,
Stock power was 142 bhp @ Flywheel ,
2nd worst figure Mike has seen from a stock car ,but with time , Knowledge and skill Mike still squeesed 209 bhp & 240lbsft out of his car .

The point being if it had gone to REVO for a GENERIC chip i bet it wouldn't have seen 180 bhp .
But he would have come away thinking he had got the 212bhp acclaimed by REVO .

 

[Dormouse]

Originally posted by CustardCupra

So what makes you think REVO will do any better than anyone else with EO5.

What makes you think they'll be any worse than anyone else?
:devil:

 

[CustardCupra]

Originally posted by Dormouse
What makes you think they'll be any worse than anyone else?
:devil:

Because there 200bhp chipped cars ARE

If they can't produce the goods at this level then they don't give me any confidence with the EO5 ,
When running a car with that sort of mods and power you would be mad to rely on a Generic map .

Too many changes being made to your car ( Bigger turbo ,injectors , 4 bar FPR , etc etc ) so a specific map makes sense as no 2 cars will respond the same to the changes being made ,

 

[Saul]

my 20vt was more than fast enough for time i owned it with REVO map, and it was driven by a fair few people on this site, AmD is not generically mapped tho either is it?

edit to add: how do you know they arent cutting the mustard?

 

[Garth]

Surely at the end of the day, the most important thing is whether you are happy with your purchase?
I have revo and I am very happy with it. Today, the dealers had to drive my car when they picked it up from me in Newcastle. I was glad I could switch it back to standard for that as they would have known about chip and asked questions possibly screwing with my warranty.

The Revo gives you a big shove in the back at low rpm, but the boost tails off at the top end. This suits my driving style very well, as I bough this car so I could stop revving the t1ts off my car like in the 16v.

Is my car as fast as a Jabba chipped car? Probably not, do I care? NO! The car performs how I'd like it to. One of the reasons I chose Revo was the stelth option, the other was convenience as Jabba is miles away.

I now have a car that is not quite (possibly) as fast as some other Ibizas, oh no, I should just kill myself now right?

 

[Madmile]

Originally posted by Garth


stelph option, oh no, I should just kill myself now right?

Gareth whats stelph option, if thats bad spelling again Gareth which i have picked you up on before then i aint impressed, get it sarted. .

 

[Madmile]

Originally posted by Saul

edit to add: how do you know they arent cutting the mustard?

It seems a lot of revo'd 20vt ibiza owners are being overtaken @ 120/130mph by Ctr's but the rest of us aint having the same problem.