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Gary, are you up for this sometime next week?
I have vag-com and revo, you have superchip. Could make interesting results?
I dont think after Sunday i will be in a position to as my E05 will be getting fitted end of next week beginning of following, Custardcupra is the man to see (for a limited time as his e05 is on the way) the time of k03 + chip is soon to be over for me thank god.
Im sure this is a heat soak issue due to increased boost. I have the bog standard revo optimax map (not sure what timing and boost setting that equates to) and mine has no probs with top speed 140+.
Can someone with SPS3 try reducing boost down to peak 15 psi levels and maybe experiement with the timing. Im sure this would acheive a more linear power delivery and better upper rev range performance.
Can someone with SPS3 try reducing boost down to peak 15 psi levels and maybe experiement with the timing. Im sure this would acheive a more linear power delivery and better upper rev range performance.
Would'nt reducing the boost and advancing the timing using optimax lower torque but increase bhp which would give higher top speeds?.
Will be interesting to see the log results!
Over the last two days I've gone from High boost2 timing7 optimax to low boost5 timing5 bog'o 95ron petrol, so far it looks promising seems to rev better at top end (Havent had the chance to do a Vmax yet though) Odd thing is though it still boost spike's at 20psi but it does drop down alot quicker to 15psi (doesnt linger around at 20-19-18psi like on high boost2) and is about 12psi by 5500rpm. The odd thing is initial impressions are that it feels just as fast as high2 if not faster at the high rev range! Will test more on the weekend might even go as low as low boost3?
(I suspect all boost settings are programmed in with a boost spike, the sps3 just adjusts the boost it settles to ?)
But if this is the case? It raises the question what is the point of timing 7 and optimax and all the boost setting low9 upto high9?
I'll give the beeza a kicking this weekend with some more tests!
Cant wait! :car:
Over the last two days I've gone from High boost2 timing7 optimax to low boost5 timing5 bog'o 95ron petrol, so far it looks promising seems to rev better at top end (Havent had the chance to do a Vmax yet though) Odd thing is though it still boost spike's at 20psi but it does drop down alot quicker to 15psi (doesnt linger around at 20-19-18psi like on high boost2) and is about 12psi by 5500rpm. The odd thing is initial impressions are that it feels just as fast as high2 if not faster at the high rev range! Will test more on the weekend might even go as low as low boost3?
(I suspect all boost settings are programmed in with a boost spike, the sps3 just adjusts the boost it settles to ?)
But if this is the case? It raises the question what is the point of timing 7 and optimax and all the boost setting low9 upto high9?
I'll give the beeza a kicking this weekend with some more tests!
Cant wait!
:car:Originally posted by Hybrid
But if this is the case? It raises the question what is the point of timing 7 and optimax and all the boost setting low9 upto high9?
Cant wait!
The point is you can make more of the upper settings by other mods on the car... SPS3 is Ok, but everything wound up high may well end up slower... High boost loads induction temps, on an already poor system. More advance is free horsepower (if) you have the octane and induction temps to run it, without triggering the knock sensors into wiping out chunks of timing...
Its a balancing act... part of the fun I guess.
Ibiza and Leon will react differently to various SPS settings as various car specific installation, component differences add or subtract from allowing the max.
Imagine a very well flowing, very efficient IC on an Ibiza, which keeps induction temps @ 30'C, and running 105 octane fuel... on SPS3 high 9, boost & ign.
- Would go well.
Monty, where on the A23 do you do your VMax runs? From Pea Pottage down towards Brighton?
Cheers
Ben
Indeed, but keep your eyes peeled for the plod. I went down there the other day (Well 2 motnhs ago actualy) and I noticed something on a bridge (I was going a little fast!)... as i got closer I realised it was 3 plod, one for each lane, each with a tripod mounted camera!!!!
I braked to a sensible speed, and spent the next few weeks praying that nothing arrived in the post. I was lucky! Phew!
Has anyone with Revo (Or any other chip) used VAGCOM to measure the ignition retardation (Channel 20 I think) when flooring it? Obviously any retardation implies the advance is too high, and I believe a retardation of 6 degrees or more is when you are in the relms of doing potential damage... but I could be wrong.
Cheers
Ben
Well gutted!!!!
Been doing some Vmax runs tonight up my local duals and M4, not good!
Tryied loads of settings low boost 4 up to 9 and timing 4 and 5 using 95 ron (came to the the conclusion timing 7 and optimax does jack **** exept has cost me loads in feul over the last year)
Low boost 4 peaked at 15psi and was 12psi at 6000rpm, low boost 9 peaked over 20psi and held 15psi to 6000rpm. Did about 6 runs and couldnt get much over 130mph!!!!
The usual, fast as **** up to 120mph in 4th then 5th dont want to do **** all gives me 10mph more and says thats it mate!!!
Piss ****ing poor my F reg CVH XR2 could do 120 with 96hp
There's got to be somthing going on?
After turning down the timing and changing fuel to 95ron it has made it a lot fast through high revs? any Ideas?
By any chance all you lot who can get 150mph, do you have standard wheels or upgraded to 17s or 18s? Thought this might throw out the speedo?
How many people have the same problem with their Revo?
Been doing some Vmax runs tonight up my local duals and M4, not good!
Tryied loads of settings low boost 4 up to 9 and timing 4 and 5 using 95 ron (came to the the conclusion timing 7 and optimax does jack **** exept has cost me loads in feul over the last year)
Low boost 4 peaked at 15psi and was 12psi at 6000rpm, low boost 9 peaked over 20psi and held 15psi to 6000rpm. Did about 6 runs and couldnt get much over 130mph!!!!
The usual, fast as **** up to 120mph in 4th then 5th dont want to do **** all gives me 10mph more and says thats it mate!!!
Piss ****ing poor my F reg CVH XR2 could do 120 with 96hp
There's got to be somthing going on?
After turning down the timing and changing fuel to 95ron it has made it a lot fast through high revs? any Ideas?
By any chance all you lot who can get 150mph, do you have standard wheels or upgraded to 17s or 18s? Thought this might throw out the speedo?
How many people have the same problem with their Revo?
I was able to do 150mph with stnd 20vt ibiza alloys, ibiza oz super t's as you would exspect has made no diff. Boost pressure is one thing but i reckon its how fast the air is being ejected out of the exhaust. My e05 is being fitted tomorrow jabba reckon even with that turbo they will only give me a 18-19psi boost spike. I can do 120-130mph in 4th and going to 5th continues to pull to 145mph and maxs out at 151mph speedo indicated, i would go see revo or get it on some rollers, ie stealths/jabba's and find out what the prob is. I could never understand why people had trouble with ctr's as from 30-150mph i always pulled away even if it was only 4-5 cars lengths. Gave a subaru impreza classic v reg and absolute spanking on Saturday morning started to go by top end of third and once i hit 4th i was really starting to go away from him. Get it looked at rather than doing loads of 100mph+ runs, you might end up getting nicked by plod.
i have, but I wouldn't realy call it a problem! My car (with Revo) gets very slow after 120. The max I have hit is 130. It felt like it had a little left in it, but I ran out of road. Personally I couldn't give a toss! It's fast up to 120 and even that is a little to high a top speed with all the cameras and plod about!
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as said before mine tops at 140mph but like i said previous doesnt bother me a major ammount as it was quick to 125/130 which is where i used it most. Just took it as a program design!
edit: however hopefully will be sold soon and replaced with K03s turbo, 2.5" single pass fmic and CAI induction this weekend and jabba shortly after so hopefully more top end will be reached
edit: however hopefully will be sold soon and replaced with K03s turbo, 2.5" single pass fmic and CAI induction this weekend and jabba shortly after so hopefully more top end will be reached
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Having larger wheels actually makes the speedo read too low, not too high. eg. If you are travelling along at 70mph on 16" wheels and a mate in an identical car but with 17" wheels is travelling alongside you then he will be reading a couple of mph lower (Assuming the calibration is the same). The bigger the rolling radius the lower the speed reading will be.
So, if you can get a reading of 150mph on 17" wheels then you would probably get something like 154mph on standard wheels. Also bigger wheels tend to run wider rubber, which means more resistance for VMax runs.
Cheers
Ben
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