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Originally posted by PeterS
leaving it in stock mode too
It cannot leave it in 'stock' mode! Maybe in preformance terms it can, but Jabba crack open the ecu and fiddle around inside. That kind of thing is noticeable, serial port tuning is not.
Originally posted by Garth
It cannot leave it in 'stock' mode! Maybe in preformance terms it can, but Jabba crack open the ecu and fiddle around inside. That kind of thing is noticeable, serial port tuning is not.
Heh - yes it is in stock performance mode, and yes, Jabba open the ecu, but from a serial point interogation point of view, they are all just as stealthy, up to a point. If anyone tries hard enough it will be pretty obvious that the flash/checksums have been modified if you go Revo or Jabba or any tuner for that matter. Trust me - if there is a query and money is involved (ie accident/insurance claim, or a warranty claim) you would be found out now matter what chipping route you take.
It was one of the reasons I went for Jabba - no route is completely steathly, so I decided that I might as well get the most out of my car, with boost controller, for less £!
Peter
PS: edited to say: Jabba are also pretty close to me, and I am toying with the idea of IHI...
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Wow..what a long thread.
My car is jabba'd and very quick all the way to 150, i got 150 with my two mates in the car on the way bk from Jabba last year. Top service and a great product. And i'm not bull sh*tting about the speed cos i wasnt driving my mate was and i was scared! believe it!!
Jabba vs Revo. Depends what u like.
Adam
My car is jabba'd and very quick all the way to 150, i got 150 with my two mates in the car on the way bk from Jabba last year. Top service and a great product. And i'm not bull sh*tting about the speed cos i wasnt driving my mate was and i was scared! believe it!!
Jabba vs Revo. Depends what u like.
Adam
I've got revo sps3 and it spikes over 20psi and holds 16-15psi up to 5500rpm but i also find it shockingly slow after 120 - 125mph And it wont top more than 135mph which i can also do in stock mode holding 8 - 10 psi! Just the way revo is I think all about mid range, fare play its fast as **** up to 120!!!
Might also think of a Jabba Remap, unless Revo want to alter there program!
I know people say you dont go over 120mph, but did does ****ing piss me off when Iam doing these speeds knowing that other chipped ibizas do 150mph.....
Might also think of a Jabba Remap, unless Revo want to alter there program!
I know people say you dont go over 120mph, but did does ****ing piss me off when Iam doing these speeds knowing that other chipped ibizas do 150mph.....
You can..
SPS3 on lower boost settings... and more advance ignition timing..
High boost = high heat = slower.
Lower boost, can run more advance(with appropriate fuel octane) hence easier Vmax.
regards
bill
Originally posted by Hybrid
I've got revo sps3 and it spikes over 20psi and holds 16-15psi up to 5500rpm but i also find it shockingly slow after 120 - 125mph And it wont top more than 135mph which i can also do in stock mode holding 8 - 10 psi! Just the way revo is I think all about mid range, fare play its fast as **** up to 120!!!
Might also think of a Jabba Remap, unless Revo want to alter there program!
I know people say you dont go over 120mph, but did does ****ing piss me off when Iam doing these speeds knowing that other chipped ibizas do 150mph.....
Obviously I can'tbe sure but it sounds like your boost gauge is inaccurate. You say that in stock mode it holds 8 - 10psi, but stock you only get 7psi max boost. So, if you gauge is between 1 and 3 psi out at 7psi, then it might be 2psi to 6psi out (Or even more) on your Revo mode.
Cheers
Ben
I run it on timing 7 and optimax and boost low 9 to high 2, so if I turn down the boost to say Low 6 or 7 and leave the timing you reckon I'll get higher top speeds???
In standard it peaks at 10psi and holds 8 its a bit more than it should at standard due to my N75J valve of the S2.
What I cant understand is 156bhp (peak power at 5500rpm ish) has a top speed of 135mph standard fact!
If revo'd it has over 200bhp peak power it should pull over 140 145 mph surely!? This is peak power at high revs which is where you would be at top speed 5000rpm ish so you should have 50bhp odd more horses pulling you? right or wrong?
If revo only designed the program for drivability and mid range and not top end surely in terms of a graph the midrange area of the curve would be alot steeper (ie more bhp quick through the revs) as it is, but then slowly drop off to give not such a big peak power performance which it doesnt? it gives 200bhp. so why dont it pull much past 120 unlike other chips etc....
Just seems odd to me....
In standard it peaks at 10psi and holds 8 its a bit more than it should at standard due to my N75J valve of the S2.
What I cant understand is 156bhp (peak power at 5500rpm ish) has a top speed of 135mph standard fact!
If revo'd it has over 200bhp peak power it should pull over 140 145 mph surely!? This is peak power at high revs which is where you would be at top speed 5000rpm ish so you should have 50bhp odd more horses pulling you? right or wrong?
If revo only designed the program for drivability and mid range and not top end surely in terms of a graph the midrange area of the curve would be alot steeper (ie more bhp quick through the revs) as it is, but then slowly drop off to give not such a big peak power performance which it doesnt? it gives 200bhp. so why dont it pull much past 120 unlike other chips etc....
Just seems odd to me....
At about 120 - 125 mph its had enough and just creeps to 135ish bit disapointing! going to have a mess about with my low boost settings and try and lower the boost spike. When driving hard I'll change 3rd and 4th at about 5500rpm because you can feel it go flat if you go any further. Got the forge intercooler to try and help the heat issue, had it vagcom'd last month and it had no faults...
From 120 on it doesnt feel any faster than stock or reach any higher speeds ...poor in my book!
From 120 on it doesnt feel any faster than stock or reach any higher speeds ...poor in my book!
Is 135mph balls out foot to the floor maxed out. I will do some vid footage of my car at the weekend and send it to you, you can then compare it to yours and see if there is any real diff .
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Originally posted by Hybrid
At about 120 - 125 mph its had enough and just creeps to 135ish bit disapointing! going to have a mess about with my low boost settings and try and lower the boost spike. When driving hard I'll change 3rd and 4th at about 5500rpm because you can feel it go flat if you go any further. Got the forge intercooler to try and help the heat issue, had it vagcom'd last month and it had no faults...
From 120 on it doesnt feel any faster than stock or reach any higher speeds ...poor in my book!
Mine was exactly the same but pulled strong a bit further upto 130 (probably due to race cat?) then creeped upto 140 (Max 143) but usually 140.
Hopefully the new K03s/Jabba and single pass fmic will give me a bit more top end
I'd be interested in that too please GaryOriginally posted by Madmile
Is 135mph balls out foot to the floor maxed out. I will do some vid footage of my car at the weekend and send it to you, you can then compare it to yours and see if there is any real diff
Spoke to andy_dea earlier and I'm going to investigate lower boost, more timing advance vs higher top speed with his SPS3 when I get the chance.
I reckon my acceleration gets very slow after 120, but as I mentioned in Smoggies thread, I very rarely do it, so I'm not too arsed. Mid range is what I like, but I'm just going to investigate so that I know.
If anyones got VAG-COM, could you log induction temps requested boost vs actual and ign timing for your Vmax run...
Interested to see whats going on.... and whether timing is being pulled back or something.
Bill
Interested to see whats going on.... and whether timing is being pulled back or something.
Bill
There is something amiss if a revo'd or any Ibiza cupra (chipped) refuses to go above 120-135mph. I do find in this colder weather the car can be revved near the redline with better results, in the heat of summer i found very little point in going past 6000rpm.
I've seen an indicated 145mph on my Oettinger chipped Ibiza, and it was still pulling. It felt like it still had quite a bit left in it.
I've only done that the once though, and I don't intend to do it often. I sometimes go over 120mph briefly, by accident. Thee is a bit where two (private) motorways join and I tend to get stuck behind some slow people.... as the motorways merge I floor it, and when I look at my speedo I find that I'm sometimes doing over 120mph!
Cheers
Ben
I've only done that the once though, and I don't intend to do it often. I sometimes go over 120mph briefly, by accident. Thee is a bit where two (private) motorways join and I tend to get stuck behind some slow people.... as the motorways merge I floor it, and when I look at my speedo I find that I'm sometimes doing over 120mph!
Cheers
Ben
...this is odd. Went for a blat down the A23 last night (3 deg ish outside) and it pulled VERY well thru to 140 (indicated..so 130ish?)
Maybe it is heat related after all.
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Maybe it is heat related after all.
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take a passenger
ust imagine someone leaning across to the passenger seat @ 150 to hit 'LOG'
The trouble wiyh the Revo cars is most who have it aint put the car on the RR so alot of BHP claims are only hearsay .
Just 'cos you've been told you have 212 bhp & 240 lbft doesn't necessarily mean its got it .
Also it depends where the BHP asnd Torque is being made in the revs,
Yeah it could be a 212 bhp car but if peak power is all over and done with at 4500rpm and the torque falls off at this point then Big Top speeds are never gonna happen .
Revo cars also seem to have a very high boost spike 21 - 22psi compared to remapped cars ( MINE BEING 16 PSI ) so heat becomes more of an issue .
More heat less power .
Just 'cos you've been told you have 212 bhp & 240 lbft doesn't necessarily mean its got it .
Also it depends where the BHP asnd Torque is being made in the revs,
Yeah it could be a 212 bhp car but if peak power is all over and done with at 4500rpm and the torque falls off at this point then Big Top speeds are never gonna happen .
Revo cars also seem to have a very high boost spike 21 - 22psi compared to remapped cars ( MINE BEING 16 PSI ) so heat becomes more of an issue .
More heat less power .
however.... many REVO'd Ibiza's have been to Stealth on various RR days, so results are around here somewhere... to view etc... See power curves etc.
I think heat is an issue. We all know Ibiza's are cursed with a silly small IC.
How you go about attacking the Vmax is also going to contribute to how hot it gets...
Not a simple answer
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