Electric Fan Problem

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techie said:
Quite often the fan control unit that sits under the n/s chassis leg under the battery gets water either in the control unit or in the connectors, creates all sorts of problems with the fans.

Five points to Techie for the correct diagnosis, Seat don't have the parts anyone know if Audi TT part is the same or Skoda Octy VRS etc??????
 

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Got mine back yesterday with this problem. Air Con on, temps rising to the point of getting a warning. I was told it was a blown fuse which meant another fan was working overtime to get the temps right and burnt out.

Replaced the fuse and a fan unit I think. Air Con would cut out too at high temps which I took to be a safety/cut down on heat producing elements precaution.
 

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Seat Technical Know The Problem The Slow Speed Of The Cooling Fans Burn Out Thats Why Fans Come On And Of On Fast Speed When Aircon On So Do Not Use Aircon Or Fuse On Battery Will Blow In The End Due To High Current Of Fans Coming On In Fast Speed All The Time. This Fault Is Quite Well Known To Most Seat Dealers

Ruddmeister said:
Phew appears it's a generic-ish VAG part and that a local VW dealer can get one for tomorrow. :thumbup:

Sounds like it is the same fan as used on the VW Golf MK4, it is common for the slow speed to fail - there is some good information here :

uk-mkivs forum (old page cached)- fan failure info

uk-mkivs forum (current page) - fan failure
 

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Scary stuff :-o

Anyway, I checked mine last night and it definately looks like the slow speed fan isn't working. Now all I have to do is hope that Seat agree with me and know what to do about it.

I'm not too impressed with the lifetime of some of the parts VAG seem to be using. I could understand parts failing after 50k + miles, but I haven't even reached 20k yet and already I have had a new water pump and now this fan. Looks like they have been cost cutting in the wrong areas as I would view the cooling system as something that you don't want to get wrong.

Bob
 

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Well TSR said it was the control box and replaced it, but got on the motorway last night 'Beep, Beep, Beep' look down and the temp is creeping towards 120.

I can limp around at 55-65mph and it stays on 90deg, I have limped home and will take it back Monday.

I suspect it's the fan itself......
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Well TSR said it was the control box and replaced it, but got on the motorway last night 'Beep, Beep, Beep' look down and the temp is creeping towards 120.

I can limp around at 55-65mph and it stays on 90deg, I have limped home and will take it back Monday.

I suspect it's the fan itself......

Sorry to hear that Steve :(

I had to sit in traffic on the M25 for 45minutes yesterday, I kept an eye on the temperature gauge and it never shifted from 90. I didnt hear the high speed fan at all. I've turned the aircon off for the moment, following others advice. When I was able to travel at speed I didn't have any overheating problems. I've got a feeling that the dealers aren't going to be able to find a problem on Monday...

Bob
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Yep mine is fine sat still at idle / in traffic and any speed below 65mph, after that the temps rise very quickly......

I was doing a constant 85/90 and didn't have any temperature problems, have you had your water pump replaced ?

Bob
 

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I was doing a constant 85/90 and didn't have any temperature problems, have you had your water pump replaced ?

Bob

Nope, will be giving Neal at TSR some stick on Monday........hope it's not the water pump even driving 15mins down the road with a dodgy water pump has me scared now
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Nope, will be giving Neal at TSR some stick on Monday........hope it's not the water pump even driving 15mins down the road with a dodgy water pump has me scared now

Strange thing is that I was driving around with a broken water pump (according to the dealer anyway) without any visible symptoms. The temperature gauge stayed at 90. The only way they could tell it was broken was because the top radiator pipe was cold to the touch. This did happen last winter though, so maybe the colder conditions masked the problem out ?

Bob
 

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Just out of curiosity you guys that are having problems.

Would you say that you always have your aircon on? No matter what
 

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If the temp rises when the engine is under load, and drops back on light throttle, then these are the same symptoms I experienced, when the impeller on the water pump failed - this can fail partially - a piece breaks off the plastic impeller,reducing the pump`s efficiency,but still allowing some water circulation.

The engine fans are not needed to control the engine temp at normal/ high road speeds - the forced air draught at these road speeds is more than adequate - the fans are only needed at times of low/inadquate air flow - when staionary or under high load at low road speed [ for example,towing up a steep hill]
 

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Yumann said:
Just out of curiosity you guys that are having problems.

Would you say that you always have your aircon on? No matter what

I try and only use it when it is really needed (to help keep my mpg up ;)) but my wife does seem to use it more than me.

Bob
 

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20vtB0b said:
I try and only use it when it is really needed (to help keep my mpg up ;)) but my wife does seem to use it more than me.

Bob

I don't put my aircon on unless its a hot day.

I know some people use it even in the winter to help take the moisure out the air.

Would you say your one if these people Bob?
 

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Yumann said:
I don't put my aircon on unless its a hot day.

I know some people use it even in the winter to help take the moisure out the air.

Would you say your one if these people Bob?

Yes, we do use it in the winter because it seems to be the only way to keep the windows from misting up.

Bob
 
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