what have you done to your car today ?

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
Shocks are fighting me. Got the hub spreader tool in fine and there's free movement, but I can't get the shock itself free from the knuckle. It's like I need an extra inch to get the lower leg out but there's no room.

I was going to put it back together and try to compress the spring, but the retaining clip isn't going in straight when I try to jack it up enough to get room at the top to compress the spring.

It's the driver's side. Does anyone have any tips?

c730b2aeffb676d859de08bde3d22114.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Battoussai

Active Member
Mar 22, 2016
475
130
Portugal
Shocks are fighting me. Got the hub spreader tool in fine and there's free movement, but I can't get the shock itself free from the knuckle. It's like I need an extra inch to get the lower leg out but there's no room.

I was going to put it back together and try to compress the spring, but the retaining clip isn't going in straight when I try to jack it up enough to get room at the top to compress the spring.

It's the driver's side. Does anyone have any tips?

c730b2aeffb676d859de08bde3d22114.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just go for WD40 and a hammer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: iammooks

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
Just go for WD40 and a hammer.

That's what I thought at first, but I don't even need the mallet because the lower leg is totally loose. There's just not enough room to get it out.

I've managed to get the leg back in, but there's really no room at the top to compress the spring - even if I do it the reverse way where you go in through the top mount.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
A long bar in the lower arm and pull that down a little further? May need an assistant.

322eb3e67df73a02db863efcb5747911.jpg


The first comment on that video solved it.

Jack up the control arm to compress the spring, put the spring compressor on upside down and wind it up, release the jack and there's enough room to get it out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rich.T

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
There's a word for this, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

773b96c2f6f9c903f0d27db226eb6e2a.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
It’s been one of those days. I don’t understand why it’s so difficult sometimes.

Both front shocks are out and ready to go back in, but even with the springs compressed, the fact that the new shocks are actually working properly means I can’t get them back into the knuckle. I feel like the easy way of doing it would be to push the shock so it compresses, but that’s easier said than done when you’re actually at the car and you’re also knackered from a day of trying to get it all done.

All the videos make it look easy - and they have plenty of room to line up the lower part of the shock in the knuckle and then jack it up to get the bolt in. I don’t understand why they can do it but on my car there’s just no room.

Made the mistake of taking out the three ball joint bolts in the hope I’d get more room, but even then I can get the shock in the knuckle, but it’s not straight and won’t slot in properly. That and the fact it’s a pain in the arse to get the ball joint back in the control arm. That’s what you get when you’re tired and start doing things you haven’t thought through.

At least I got the boost pipe fitted. I had to take out the fog light to be able to get the clips back on, but it’s solid now - if a little squashed. I’ll have to keep an eye on that.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

LCR AL

Active Member
Jun 5, 2020
82
49
I can't tell from your pic if the arb drop link has been removed for more lower arm travel?

When I did my suspension (lcr), I removed the 3 bolts on the ball joint end and levered the lower arm down with my jack handle.

It was a pain without the proper splitter tool and yes a hammer was involved!

Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: iammooks

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
I can't tell from your pic if the arb drop link has been removed for more lower arm travel?

When I did my suspension (lcr), I removed the 3 bolts on the ball joint end and levered the lower arm down with my jack handle.

It was a pain without the proper splitter tool and yes a hammer was involved!

Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk

Took the drop link bolt out when I was taking everything apart, and that definitely gave me more room to play with.

I think removal was easier because I could compress the shock, and because they were shagged, there was no real pressure pushing the shock back out to its full length. Because the new ones are fully pressurised, and so it’s both harder to compress, but also returns to its full length really quickly even if I can compress it.

I’m going to give it another go this morning with the ball joint out of the control arm. The trouble is I’m knackered now, and that makes me do stupid things.

It’s just weird though - there are loads of videos on YouTube where they just put the top in and tighten the top mounts, and then there’s loads of room underneath to get the lower into the knuckle - even without undoing the ball joint or the driveshaft - they just slot it in and jack it up to tighten.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

LCR AL

Active Member
Jun 5, 2020
82
49
I know what you mean regarding how-to videos! It's always so quick and easy.
I work in a lay-by with limited tools and experience.

I'm trying to remember if I unbolted the driveshaft. I probably did, as there were no issues with space for the shock coming off or going on and the lower arm had loads of travel.

It was only a year ago, my memory is getting worse!

Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk
 

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
The trouble is that now the shocks and wheels are very much off, I'm not going to be able to get the driveshaft nut off.

With the ball joint bolts out, I can get the shock onto but not into the knuckle. Maybe doing that and then getting the bolts back in I might be able to either jack it into place, or lever it in.

Just to say as well, they're definitely the right shock...! I was a bit anxious when I compared them at first because the new was at least an inch longer, but I could pull out that extra inch from the old shock. The passenger side doesn't even extend back out...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Battoussai

Active Member
Mar 22, 2016
475
130
Portugal
The trouble is that now the shocks and wheels are very much off, I'm not going to be able to get the driveshaft nut off.

With the ball joint bolts out, I can get the shock onto but not into the knuckle. Maybe doing that and then getting the bolts back in I might be able to either jack it into place, or lever it in.

Just to say as well, they're definitely the right shock...! I was a bit anxious when I compared them at first because the new was at least an inch longer, but I could pull out that extra inch from the old shock. The passenger side doesn't even extend back out...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
From my point of view you have to take out the driveshaft or you won't get clearance.
1632656402584.png
 

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
6bd38c78c0aece3785c68995fc9e4454.jpg


Goes in OK with the three ball joint bolts out. Now I just have to get those ******* things back in the slot in the control arm...

I have no idea why it's worked today and not yesterday. All I've done differently is used a wire brush on the knuckle and smeared it liberally with copper ease.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: MoToJoJo and Rich.T

iammooks

Active Member
Nov 27, 2018
1,784
1,172
Thanks everyone for all your patience. Both sides are back in now. I managed to tear the boot on the offside ball joint, so rather than put that back together, I'm just going to order a new one and wait to put it back on its wheels when I've fitted that.

Just got to do the rears now and barring any surprises with the top mounts there, I should have that done quickly enough. I'm sure this post will age well though - expect me to be complaining about a snapped bolt or something later in the week.

It's not like I can drive anywhere at the moment anyway - 1/4 of a tank isn't going to last long if the whole petrol station thing doesn't work itself out in a few days.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: bruceR
Adrian Flux insurance services - discount for forum members.