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Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1
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Mib2 standard wasnt so locked down and we have Exciter to thank.
As said before there was one guy on mib1 standard in East Europe trying to build a business model out of modding them. I'm not convinced that there isn't a software update that retrofitters would use that the guy had patched into. My trip to Doncaster to get my mib2 high original unit which had been turned into a retrofit the year before that needed some remedial work done on it to accept 184 became rather hectic since it messed up TSR with an extra day spent in Doncaster as morning turned into afternoon. Was going to ask the experts whether they had fixes for a mib1 standard unit but didn't get round to it
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Will leave someone with a mib1 standard to ask a retrofitter the question. They probably would want to sell a mib2 as an upgrade I guess than work on "legacy" hardware. But it must have been what the guy from East Europe was selling. The Mib1 standard maps are still published on Skoda / VW sites.
There is a mqb coding page on Facebook and I see Chillout has published a mib2 high github routines for clocks. Chillout has been working with mib2 high units for a number of years... must have made some progress
https://github.com/jilleb/mib2-toolbox/wiki/Graphics-modification:-Famous-clocks
I know other add-in are taken from github for the high, one that the Doncaster (Croydon before) outfit put on Walones but I turned down. Boy racer option.
Ah well dark winter nights if the Doncaster outfit goes under for my mib2 high... Think I'm fine for 7.5 years, will have to get skilled up otherwise. You need some programming skills. That Ubunto usb boot disk above would come in handy as well I bet. For mib2 high not best to play with it yourself unless you have two. Seems to be a programming order that you put things on it and you need to restore your own local settings after tinkering, getting things wrong and sophisticated aspects like TSR stop working correctly. Those have to be read out and that's what they do on a firmware update then write back in. Then adjust other aspects in relation to Mapcare. That's the table I constructed, post 1914
https://forums.seatcupra.net/index.php?threads/navigation-system-updates.388586/page-96
which is the cut off point to when maps can be updated to on a high. It runs in quarters. It's that variable and other aspects that retrofitter adjust. If you haven't got Mapcare on a Plus it's set at the quarter the car was manufactured so can't be updated, if three years Mapcare on the continent where available it's set at 12 quarters from when activated. Modern VW and Skoda have unlimited map updates. Think that's just implemented via the core firmware used rather than FEC / SWAP codes.
As said before there was one guy on mib1 standard in East Europe trying to build a business model out of modding them. I'm not convinced that there isn't a software update that retrofitters would use that the guy had patched into. My trip to Doncaster to get my mib2 high original unit which had been turned into a retrofit the year before that needed some remedial work done on it to accept 184 became rather hectic since it messed up TSR with an extra day spent in Doncaster as morning turned into afternoon. Was going to ask the experts whether they had fixes for a mib1 standard unit but didn't get round to it
.Will leave someone with a mib1 standard to ask a retrofitter the question. They probably would want to sell a mib2 as an upgrade I guess than work on "legacy" hardware. But it must have been what the guy from East Europe was selling. The Mib1 standard maps are still published on Skoda / VW sites.
There is a mqb coding page on Facebook and I see Chillout has published a mib2 high github routines for clocks. Chillout has been working with mib2 high units for a number of years... must have made some progress
https://github.com/jilleb/mib2-toolbox/wiki/Graphics-modification:-Famous-clocks
I know other add-in are taken from github for the high, one that the Doncaster (Croydon before) outfit put on Walones but I turned down. Boy racer option.
Ah well dark winter nights if the Doncaster outfit goes under for my mib2 high... Think I'm fine for 7.5 years, will have to get skilled up otherwise. You need some programming skills. That Ubunto usb boot disk above would come in handy as well I bet
. For mib2 high not best to play with it yourself unless you have two. Seems to be a programming order that you put things on it and you need to restore your own local settings after tinkering, getting things wrong and sophisticated aspects like TSR stop working correctly. Those have to be read out and that's what they do on a firmware update then write back in. Then adjust other aspects in relation to Mapcare. That's the table I constructed, post 1914https://forums.seatcupra.net/index.php?threads/navigation-system-updates.388586/page-96
which is the cut off point to when maps can be updated to on a high. It runs in quarters. It's that variable and other aspects that retrofitter adjust. If you haven't got Mapcare on a Plus it's set at the quarter the car was manufactured so can't be updated, if three years Mapcare on the continent where available it's set at 12 quarters from when activated. Modern VW and Skoda have unlimited map updates. Think that's just implemented via the core firmware used rather than FEC / SWAP codes.
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The information here to update the sat nav is awesome, thanks so much!
I am unable to remove the sd card though, it is held in by some metal plate or clip that goes around the front preventing it from coming out. I suspect it is because the car was originally a hire car before I bought it from Seat at 12 months old (the car, not me!). Has anyone come across this before or have any ideas how to remove before I get the old saw out? I suspect the only way is to cut across the metal so the sd card can be removed from within then the metal will compress and be able to be removed but this is only a guess. The metal "clip" is definitely not a part of the card as I can slide it around separate to the sd card.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers.
I am unable to remove the sd card though, it is held in by some metal plate or clip that goes around the front preventing it from coming out. I suspect it is because the car was originally a hire car before I bought it from Seat at 12 months old (the car, not me!). Has anyone come across this before or have any ideas how to remove before I get the old saw out? I suspect the only way is to cut across the metal so the sd card can be removed from within then the metal will compress and be able to be removed but this is only a guess. The metal "clip" is definitely not a part of the card as I can slide it around separate to the sd card.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers.
I found the answer tucked away in another forum, it is a tiny clip that was easily prised out with a small electronics flathead screwdriver. It didn't go the length of the card so no damage to the card or unit.
Now I can update!
Thanks again.
Now I can update!
Thanks again.
It depends on which Infotainmet unit is fitted, if Navi Plus NO, if Navi System 6PO (MIB2) YES
You can check this on infotainment system screens
You can check this on infotainment system screens
They didn't fit the Plus unit into any Tarraco's sold in the UK, they are all the standard ones with the 6P if you do the test, but a map card in the slot is sufficient. They aren't the wifi ones either so you can upload your own POIs as well.
So yes you can do the same procedure for the updates and even do speed cameras on them as per the Ateca thread tail of woe. I looked over a Tarraco and did some checks on it after I was told they don't have the wifi unit, true and they are indeed standard ones. All cloth cutting on options with the weak pound against the Euro.
So yes you can do the same procedure for the updates and even do speed cameras on them as per the Ateca thread tail of woe. I looked over a Tarraco and did some checks on it after I was told they don't have the wifi unit, true and they are indeed standard ones. All cloth cutting on options with the weak pound against the Euro.
Same reply to what I said to you on the PM
When I Google the seriel number it came up with this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/seat-leon-head-unit-Stereo-Screen-5f0035871-/223622600591?redirect=mobile
that's the display screen. No navigation button on it. The actual box of tricks is in the glove box. Check what's in there.
When it came up before its thought navigation isn't built into the unit. Cheap option.
Further a license controls whether it's installed. FEC / SWAP codes. So even if the hardware supported navigation you can't enable the FEC / SWAP codes yourself. Then there is the question of installing an SD map card which are factory controlled and no nav button on your unit.
Thus I think you are out of luck.
On reversing camera that ought to be on another thread but is dependent on what you have in the glove box or not I reckon. I'm wondering whether it's so stripped down you don't have anything in the glove box. I know some people thought it was great getting an Ateca without navigation in that period since they didn't need it... problem for someone who obtains the car later.
I'd have a look in the glove box and read the serial number of that. Google away on that. (If there is anything there).
The eBay picture on that serial number shows it as a Mib2 entry unit, googling the serial number (l40se2):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&sxsrf=ACYBGNQd6fLz7PVcs_SomeVxT37rlJyiXg:1579276543860&q=seat+l40se2&oq=seat+l40se2&aqs=heirloom-srp..
Quick look at the manual
"Media System Touch/
Colour
Owner’s manual"
I don't think you will find anything in the glove box, CD and SD slots are in the panel. It's a very basic unit.
Best of luck.
When I Google the seriel number it came up with this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/seat-leon-head-unit-Stereo-Screen-5f0035871-/223622600591?redirect=mobile
that's the display screen. No navigation button on it. The actual box of tricks is in the glove box. Check what's in there.
When it came up before its thought navigation isn't built into the unit. Cheap option.
Further a license controls whether it's installed. FEC / SWAP codes. So even if the hardware supported navigation you can't enable the FEC / SWAP codes yourself. Then there is the question of installing an SD map card which are factory controlled and no nav button on your unit.
Thus I think you are out of luck.
On reversing camera that ought to be on another thread but is dependent on what you have in the glove box or not I reckon. I'm wondering whether it's so stripped down you don't have anything in the glove box. I know some people thought it was great getting an Ateca without navigation in that period since they didn't need it... problem for someone who obtains the car later.
I'd have a look in the glove box and read the serial number of that. Google away on that. (If there is anything there).
The eBay picture on that serial number shows it as a Mib2 entry unit, googling the serial number (l40se2):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&sxsrf=ACYBGNQd6fLz7PVcs_SomeVxT37rlJyiXg:1579276543860&q=seat+l40se2&oq=seat+l40se2&aqs=heirloom-srp..
Quick look at the manual
"Media System Touch/
Colour
Owner’s manual"
I don't think you will find anything in the glove box, CD and SD slots are in the panel. It's a very basic unit.
Best of luck.
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Sorry I just seen the pm! Yes you are right there is nothing in the glove box! It's just this unit media touch color 5f0035871b .the unit works ok with Bluetooth and phone! But there is not full link or android auto or GPS tch.
I'm wondering if it's nothing I can do about it to add parking sensors or camera(I read something about coding with vcds to unlock the feature!) If it's easy to upgrade to the next version media with the navigation button so it looks factory and without loosing the steering wheels commands!
I'm wondering if it's nothing I can do about it to add parking sensors or camera(I read something about coding with vcds to unlock the feature!) If it's easy to upgrade to the next version media with the navigation button so it looks factory and without loosing the steering wheels commands!
Is there a way you can tell me how to become these updates ?
Mine is Hardware H42 and indeed software 0319>
Hope to hear from you
They are only the firmware software updates not map file updates which are different. Let Walone answer that, but there is a dedicated thread:
https://forums.seatcupra.net/index.php?threads/sw-update-for-mib2-infotainment-system.427280/
Think the plus ones come from a Turkish eBay person and standard ones via a Spanish thread mentioned on the link. Let Walone tell you about the Turkish guy. But I recall him telling someone that when asked where they came from.
The retrofit ones which can be updates they provide which sort out the mapcare issue on the Plus come from your favourite retrofitter in your country. The factory firmware follows the behaviour of what's allowed on the FEC / Swap licenses. They don't change that. Saying that the retrofit firmware is the standard Plus firmware but they adjust the FEC / Swap codes to get extra functionality. Walones into some FEC / Swap juggling at the minute. So he did the firmware updates himself but turned to a retrofitter to adjust the codes... I followed his lead but they did the firmware update in mine as well.
I think if you dont have a car with all the bells and whistles on with a mib2 high / plus you can do that yourself (firmware update) within the licenses you have (defined by the FEC / Swap codes). If you have TSR, 360 cameras etc it becomes more problematic. The retrofitter backed up my settings by extracting them, then remotely manufactured the update, downloaded over 4G to SD card then did the firmware update, then fine tuned the settings with ODIS. Took about 2.5 hours first time round, all day second time round. Two nights away from home on both occasions. Backup might be part of the retrofit process but came in handy when things got messed up last time round returning my units settings back in fixed the problem they created during the process (that back up they took the year before). TSR then warned in MPH not KPH !.
https://forums.seatcupra.net/index.php?threads/sw-update-for-mib2-infotainment-system.427280/
Think the plus ones come from a Turkish eBay person and standard ones via a Spanish thread mentioned on the link. Let Walone tell you about the Turkish guy. But I recall him telling someone that when asked where they came from
.The retrofit ones which can be updates they provide which sort out the mapcare issue on the Plus come from your favourite retrofitter in your country. The factory firmware follows the behaviour of what's allowed on the FEC / Swap licenses. They don't change that. Saying that the retrofit firmware is the standard Plus firmware but they adjust the FEC / Swap codes to get extra functionality. Walones into some FEC / Swap juggling at the minute
. So he did the firmware updates himself but turned to a retrofitter to adjust the codes... I followed his lead but they did the firmware update in mine as well. I think if you dont have a car with all the bells and whistles on with a mib2 high / plus you can do that yourself (firmware update) within the licenses you have (defined by the FEC / Swap codes). If you have TSR, 360 cameras etc it becomes more problematic. The retrofitter backed up my settings by extracting them, then remotely manufactured the update, downloaded over 4G to SD card then did the firmware update, then fine tuned the settings with ODIS. Took about 2.5 hours first time round, all day second time round. Two nights away from home on both occasions. Backup might be part of the retrofit process but came in handy when things got messed up last time round returning my units settings back in fixed the problem they created during the process (that back up they took the year before). TSR then warned in MPH not KPH !.
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If it's the standard mib2 which uses an SD card, no best to get Seat to install the map card. If it's through a dealership it should be supplied. After that the "workaround" is available for map updates. Often the card supplied is out of date so you'd update it yourself once a working version us installed. If the unit has been married up to a card in the past the dealer needs to remarry it to a new card. Its only if its never been married up can you put a card in it yourself - least as I understand it. That's how dealers send people cards and they work.
I'm not up to speed with what the options were on 66' plate Leon FR tech. I'm assuming it's the standard mib2 and not cut down colour thingy as posted above. If you got a box in the glove box that's a proper navigation unit. Doubt it would be a plus and the maps are on an SSD in any case.
I'm not up to speed with what the options were on 66' plate Leon FR tech. I'm assuming it's the standard mib2 and not cut down colour thingy as posted above. If you got a box in the glove box that's a proper navigation unit. Doubt it would be a plus and the maps are on an SSD in any case.
Have sent you a message.Is there a way you can tell me how to become these updates ?
Mine is Hardware H42 and indeed software 0319>
Hope to hear from you
Thanks for getting back to me. In the glovebox I have a box with 2 SD card slots and what I think is a CD slot. As far as I'm aware, I don't think it's ever had an SD card married with it, because I think it was an optional extra that the first owner before me didn't choose.
I was tempted to buy a card just to see if it would work, but I wouldn't have a clue which card to buy, since there seems to be many different versions.
Failing that, I'll just take it to a Seat dealer haha.
I'd ask them the price. 1030 version is a common one installed which has a 6P.... part number. As long as it's mib2 standard thereafter once installed you can upgrade.
You can always buy the latest v11 card and if it doesn't install present to the dealer to install. Do a price check, supplied by them and installed, supplied by you and them to install or if it's never had a map card in it may install assuming it's a fully pledged mib2 standard. The 6p number on the card is the one it shows on the info screen once installed. What the V11 looks like, image attached. I'd enquire then review your options.
You can always buy the latest v11 card and if it doesn't install present to the dealer to install. Do a price check, supplied by them and installed, supplied by you and them to install or if it's never had a map card in it may install assuming it's a fully pledged mib2 standard. The 6p number on the card is the one it shows on the info screen once installed. What the V11 looks like, image attached. I'd enquire then review your options.
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SEAT website now have 1410 available for download (6P0 units) and also 176 (High units).
https://www.seat.com/owners/my-seat/navigation/map-updates.html
They did have a message on the page saying they were having software issues with map update, but that has now gone. Shame they aren't supplying 1430 directly.
https://www.seat.com/owners/my-seat/navigation/map-updates.html
They did have a message on the page saying they were having software issues with map update, but that has now gone. Shame they aren't supplying 1430 directly.
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