RNS 315 Retrofit

[Rob_Talisman]

Well im gutted. Spent all night. Fitted dab aerial. Wired the mic up into back of the connector. Used vcds n activated bluetooth n optical sensors. All tucked up.
Bluetooth works. Music stream. Optical sensors work.

Bloody mic doesnt though. Been shouting at the bloody women to call home. Help. Etc.

Nothing. I know its wired right grr

 

[VAGUE]

LOL that bloody unpolite woman!

OK, let's start by providing some information. How did you exactly manage to wire up the mic? Did you bridge it with new wires or reconnected the existing ones?

 

[Rob_Talisman]

Ok got another old radio connector and removed two of the pins with 6" of cable on each.
Fixed these into pin 1 and 7 in the green connector. Block connection (temp to test) to two long lenghts of cable routed thru the car and under the drivers seat. I then unplugged the BT connector. Cables to 11 and 12 cut behind the blue block. Block connected them back as they were and inserted the extra cables to each block conector. So now pin 1 green conector goes to 12 on blue connector. And same for 7 and 11.

 

[VAGUE]

Ok got another old radio connector and removed two of the pins with 6" of cable on each.
Fixed these into pin 1 and 7 in the green connector. Block connection (temp to test) to two long lenghts of cable routed thru the car and under the drivers seat. I then unplugged the BT connector. Cables to 11 and 12 cut behind the blue block. Block connected them back as they were and inserted the extra cables to each block conector. So now pin 1 green conector goes to 12 on blue connector. And same for 7 and 11.

So, if I understood correctly, you did bridge the mic with a couple of extra wires. Now, do you happen to have a multimeter/multitester to test continuity in those wires? You know, some pictures of the actual installation will greatly help here.

 

[Rob_Talisman]

Got pics on my iphone. But no way of adding them like that.

Yes ive a multimeter. How do i test continuity with obe?

 

[VAGUE]

Got pics on my iphone. But no way of adding them like that.

Yes ive a multimeter. How do i test continuity with obe?

Do you have dropbox or something like that? As I said, it'd be easier to help you if I could see how everything's exactly wired up.

Now for continuity measuring, it varies from device to device, but the option that lets you do that is usually depicted as follows:

 

[Rob_Talisman]

Actually i just had a thought. When i got the car the other week and tried to dial out by pressing the voice activation button and saying call etc it never worked for me. BUT if i made a call or received a call people could hear me clearly and that was the old BT unit.

I wonder if this is the same thing.... Ill make a call in the morning and see if anyone can hear me. If they can then something else is going on.

Yeah ive drop box. Ill pull all the bits out in the morn for you and get pics of everything mate. Thank you for your help again. Appreciated.

 

[VAGUE]

Actually i just had a thought. When i got the car the other week and tried to dial out by pressing the voice activation button and saying call etc it never worked for me. BUT if i made a call or received a call people could hear me clearly and that was the old BT unit.

I wonder if this is the same thing.... Ill make a call in the morning and see if anyone can hear me. If they can then something else is going on.

Yeah ive drop box. Ill pull all the bits out in the morn for you and get pics of everything mate. Thank you for your help again. Appreciated.

Now that's strange... we'll have to look more into it, looks like. Just let me know whenever you're ready, mate.

Sleep tight.

 

[Rob_Talisman]

Yes!!!! Fixed it. Came to me early hours. Because id removed two pins from another connector and pushed them into the existing one that went into the green connector. When i pushed them in id put a drop of superglue at the end to hold them in place. I think the glue blocked the connection. Pulled it out this morn and ripped the connector to bits as it had glued in place. Re made another connector and wired it up. Bingo all working!!!!

Now need to make it all pretty and proper connections. But at least i know now.

 

[VAGUE]

Yes!!!! Fixed it. Came to me early hours. Because id removed two pins from another connector and pushed them into the existing one that went into the green connector. When i pushed them in id put a drop of superglue at the end to hold them in place. I think the glue blocked the connection. Pulled it out this morn and ripped the connector to bits as it had glued in place. Re made another connector and wired it up. Bingo all working!!!!

Now need to make it all pretty and proper connections. But at least i know now.

Excellent news, mate!

So it didn't work the first time because you accidentally isolated the tips with superglue, right? They should have been soldered into the block, not glued, but hey, as long as everything works properly, superglue is alright.

It'll be of great help if you could post some pics of it, mate. Just for the record, you know

Cheers!

 

[Rob_Talisman]

I indeed to solder all the joints but i just wanted to get everything working first. A Block conector is easier than a soldered joint to undo if not working

(saying that the super glue was a complete git....)

Anyone got an old green connector for a rns310-315-510??? as mine is in pieces now....

Yup will fine somewhere to upload the pics and then do a step by step.

 

[amancuso]

Hi guys, I've got a MK6 Jetta here in the USA and I'm upgrading to an RNS-315. My car does not have BT in it but I understand the 315 has it built in. My question concerns the mic input. Would you say it's possible to use an aftermarket mic and simply wire it to the HU connector at pins 1 and 7?

 

[VAGUE]

Hi guys, I've got a MK6 Jetta here in the USA and I'm upgrading to an RNS-315. My car does not have BT in it but I understand the 315 has it built in. My question concerns the mic input. Would you say it's possible to use an aftermarket mic and simply wire it to the HU connector at pins 1 and 7?

Hi there, mate, you're right, RNS 315 HU's do have integrated BT.

However, personally I would not recommend using an aftermarket mic with it, given its wire impedance and caliber differences, you might actually not get the results you expect from it in the end.

Why don't you get the OEM one? It isn't that expensive and you won't get better results anywhere else. Here:

http://www.carsystems.pl/wiring-microphone-3b0035711b-for-vw-rns-315-bluetooth-only,id387.html​

 

[amancuso]

Hi there, mate, you're right, RNS 315 HU's do have integrated BT.

However, personally I would not recommend using an aftermarket mic with it, given its wire impedance and caliber differences, you might actually not get the results you expect from it in the end.

Why don't you get the OEM one? It isn't that expensive and you won't get better results anywhere else. Here:



hmmm ok only issue I see here is that the website states:
Suitable for vehicles until 2011 model year

Not suitable for vehicles from 2012 model year

For vehicles from 2012 model year the 7P6035730 or similar hands free system needs to be used


My Mk6 is a 2014. I just sent a question to car systems .pl to see if they have any advice for me.

Thanks!

 

[VAGUE]

I don't think that information is accurate since the given part number 7P6035730 corresponds to a complete external BT unit kit (which you totally don't need here), and not only to the mic itself (in fact, no other website that sells these two wires has this indication). I believe you should be fine with that one even thought they indicate it's only suitable for pre 2011 models, but let's see what they've got to say to you about it.

Please do keep us posted.

Cheers!

 

[ryanfitz1981]

Hi Just fitted a RNS315 myself today to my Altea.
It replaced a crappy MP3 radio. Everything went well and i had it swapped over and working within 30mins!

I now have MP3 via the "media in" USB port in my arm rest and also can play music from my phone via bluetooth.

Now the only issue I do have is that I don't have a mic for the bluetooth handsfree.

Ive ordered this:
w w w . carsystems.pl/wiring-microphone-3b0035711b-for-vw-rns-315-bluetooth-only,id387. h t m l (remove spaces)

Is it simply plug and play?
I'm hopeing I don't have to carry out any software mods. Also is it easy to install?

Ive also got to install the DAB aerial so will have to run cables at some point which im not looking forward to. (

Any advice would be great.

Edit: By the way I have a facelift 2010 with updated trim if its any help!

 

[Rob_Talisman]

Did your car not have bluetooth before you fitted this? If so the mic is already there. If not then its still easy. Just need to add two extra pins to the connector mate.

The aerial was also fairly easy i got a window stick on one. Ran it down the A pillar passenger side and across. Ive a post on here somewhere from when i did it with pics and a guide.

( its early in the morning.... Just realised this topic has a lot of my bits in on this subject. Sure there is another post with more photos on though)

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[amancuso]

Hello everyone. I have installed the RNS-315 in my USA spec Mk6 Jetta. Everything works, except for the mic at the moment as I'm waiting for the wiring and the mic to be delivered. As soon as I hook it up I will let you all know. There apparently is a kit out there that plugs directly into the back of the radio and gives you a mic. You just have to run the cable up the A-pillar and into the headliner so you can hook up the mic.

I'll post back when the part arrives and is installed.

 

[Colledge87]

Hi wonder if you could help?

I've recently retrofitted the RNS 315 from an RCD 310, fitted the DAB aerial, mic and GPS antenna and coded using a VCDS. All seem to work fine with out much of a problem but as soon as the ignition has been turned off for about 10 minutes the radio loses all my radio presets and resets itself to Dutch. I tried a couple of times to set the language to either automatic or English, but again once the engines off for a short period the radio reverts back to Dutch. Its the same with the radio presets, i'll set the stations i want, then after the engines off the presets that were on the radio before i retrofitted come back. However i can pair my phone using the bluetooth and save addresses on the Navigation and they come back while the ignition has been off so it's left me baffled.

I'm not sure if this is a problem with the RNS315 firmware unit or whether i have missed something in the coding. If it is the firmware i can get this returned for replacement.

My car is a Leon FR 2010 with out the external bluetooth module and has the large white MFD.

This is what i got from the VCDS

VIN: V****************** License Plate:



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Chassis Type: 1P (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77


VIN: V******************

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

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Address 01: Engine (CCZ) Labels: 06J-907-115-CCZ.clb
Part No SW: 1P0 907 115 AD HW: 1P0 907 115 Q
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0020
Revision: AAH18--- Serial number:
Coding: 0303000C18070160
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 6DD1D90A745D4E76401-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AT HW: 1K0 907 379 AT
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0105
Revision: 00H30001
Coding: 163B6012092400FB680B06EB90210081350800
Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
VCID: 84071CAE07D72F3E3FF-80D1

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5P0 907 044 P HW: 5P0 907 044 P
Component: Climatronic H15 0602
Revision: 00001001
Coding: 0000000002
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE35.rod
VCID: 3D71294AACBD1EF6B01-8068

1 Fault Found:
9481200 - Coolant Pressure
B10AB F0 [009] - Too Low
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 58
Mileage: 46272 km
Date: 2041.14.30
Time: 13:06:49


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 F HW: 5K0 937 086 F
Component: BCM PQ35 M 011 0035
Revision: BC011001
Coding: 46180AF8E037B0C0CA8800808100010442799DA8427D89605C8000000040
Shop #: WSC 04941 123 12345
VCID: 377D3B62868134A66AD-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1P0 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 30081 22 0611
Coding: 00DB90

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1P0 955 559 A HW: 1P0 955 559 A Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSEN H04 0003
Coding: 06192D

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1P0 951 171
Component: Innenraumuebe 010 4971
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 3C8-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 5P0 919 475 B HW: 5P0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H07 0005
Revision: -------- Serial number: 89341019707286
Coding: 000004
Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
VCID: 3A7B2256B59329CE953-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 N HW: 5N0 959 655 N
Component: J234__A0E VW10 HI 1916
Revision: 21014000 Serial number: 003GHPGRYA1K
Coding: 0012357
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 489F489E3B7F4B5E137-801D

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS619571940

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS611501940

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6B5L2E9KR

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS63TJ0E9KR

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BN HW: 5K0 953 569 E
Component: LENKS.MODUL 009 0136
Revision: FF010038 Serial number: 20100826301552
Coding: 108A140002
Shop #: WSC 99999 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
VCID: 79F9FD5AF815E2D6DC9-802C

Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1P0 959 538 D HW: 1P0 959 538 D Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAP H02 0102
Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 1P0 920 951 B HW: 1P0 920 951 B
Component: KOMBI H05 0404
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 410800
Shop #: WSC 99999 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod
VCID: 2D51190A7CDD8E76001-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H27 5603
Revision: H27 Serial number: 230810F1001228
Coding: E9A07F0640061200000203
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: EDD1590AF45DCE76C01-80B8

1 Fault Found:
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 58
Mileage: 46272 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2041.14.30
Time: 13:27:32


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H05 0404
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: EADB52160DB3D94EA53-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C HW: 5N0 035 342 C
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7668508900
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
VCID: 275DEB225621A426FAD-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 5P0 035 191 G HW: 5P0 035 191 G
Component: RNS315-EU H36 0263
Serial number: SEZAZ2M9175280
Coding: 040004010404000000000008
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS A01004
ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
VCID: 2F6D030276D1FC6632D-807A

Data medium:
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
Component: EUR_W_0038 0038

1 Fault Found:
1048659 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 61
Mileage: 46305 km
Date: 2042.14.00
Time: 12:31:25


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AG HW: 3C0 959 793 A
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0312
Revision: 12101005 Serial number: 0000977375
Coding: 0012B0
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide.rod
VCID: 7CF7E44EF727D7FEC7F-8029

Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AF HW: 1K0 959 794 S
Component: J389__TSG-HR 006 1401
Serial number: 00000005124238
Coding: 000290

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 142 3001
Revision: 00H17000
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3169057AA8E5EA96249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 AC HW: 3C0 959 792 A
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0312
Revision: 14101005 Serial number: 0001167918
Coding: 0012B0
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide.rod
VCID: 79F9FD5AF815E2D6DC9-802C

Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AF HW: 1K0 959 795 S
Component: J388__TSG-HL 006 1401
Serial number: 00000005099763
Coding: 000290

2 Faults Found:
132610 - Motors for Rear Central Locking
B122C 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 61
Mileage: 46272 km
Date: 2041.14.30
Time: 13:21:06

132866 - Switch for Rear Central Locking
B122E 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 101
Mileage: 46272 km
Date: 2041.14.30
Time: 13:21:06


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Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

 

[HasF]

Hey,

I've also recently done an upgrade to an RNS-315.

It sounds like the HU is loosing its perm live feed and reverting back to its default. Did you get the unit off eBay?

Mine came from the EU. There seems to be a big market in them repairing faulty ones and selling on ebay! Maybe yours has an actual fault though.


Have you tried putting back the standard HU you had in the vehicle? If so does this also loose its presets?
It could be worth trying that or removing the 315 and powering it up on the bench and see if it looses presets that way.

You are a bit far off or i would have said drop it down to me and we can go through most of the standard checks.