Hybrid K04 Turbo Discussion

[Mitchy]

I think as someones already stated they are theoretical gearbox speeds, which could be reached if enough power is being delivered to overcome the massive drag you'll see.

I would like to see the 6th gear seeing as 5th maxxes out at 168mph. I dont think even at optimum revs in 6th gear, you pulling much. I doubt actually you being able to hit limiter in 5th

Like you said, you can only try but horsepower is a factor of top speed. Physics tells you that

Maclaren F1 gets to 260mph on its clocks (242mph real) and that ''only'' has 630bhp.

Some 800bhp evos/scobby's cant break 200, never mind 240mph and the maclaren does it with a lot less power although thats probably due to its weight and drag factor, ALONG with its gearing

I cant see you getting much more than 175mph with a long enough straight with power levels of sub 350 and brick shaped aerodynamics such as LCR.

But good luck buddy, will be interesting when you do get round to doing it

I think my next spare cash is going to be thrown at bigger stoppers and sorting the suspension out. Maybe even lightening things up a bit (Lightweight alloys/flywheel etc) as stripping weight is going to make a huge difference as the LCR is not a light car.
I need new rods too to allow me turn the nitrous up a lot further

Yes a clutch will probably be next on your list Scotty as the inevitable clutch slip WILL happen

 

[Mitchy]

200mph in a leon..... now i would like to see that, whether its "geared" for it or not.

think square law when it comes to those speeds and power to push it there.

good luck trying tho.

take more than 2 miles to get there tho (thinking brunters)

Bill, when are you going to push your badboy into a top speed run to knock james's golf off its top spot perch

Yours should go beyond 178mph i would have thought

 

[J@mes]

Bill, when are you going to push your badboy into a top speed run to knock james's golf off its top spot perch

Yours should go beyond 178mph i would have thought

i wouldnt like to be bills brakes or balls when he does this!

 

[Yumann]

It be cheaper to swap a tdi box in.

 

[Mitchy]

Mitchy, have you spoken to jabba yet?

Yes buddy, booked in with them on the 15th so i should have facts and figures then I do believe they have a new set of ''tight'' rollers that give more accurate figures as i know some people thought the old set were a bit too giving

Fingers crossed it breaks 300

Cant wait now

Carl....Are you staying on APR mapping the same as Sie?

 

[J@mes]

Yes buddy, booked in with them on the 15th so i should have facts and figures then I do believe they have a new set of ''tight'' rollers that give more accurate figures as i know some people thought the old set were a bit too giving

Fingers crossed it breaks 300

nice one mitch!

so mike was ok about mapping the hydrid!

also out of interest wat they charging you? £400, £475?


and lastly wat mods will u have engine wise before the hybrid is mapped?! full stage 2 just with the new turbo? (this makes it a stage 3 right?!)

 

[Mitchy]

nice one mitch!

so mike was ok about mapping the hydrid!

also out of interest wat they charging you? £400, £475?


and lastly wat mods will u have engine wise before the hybrid is mapped?! full stage 2 just with the new turbo? (this makes it a stage 3 right?!)

At the moment i dont really know the cost but half a days mapping is the usual £475 and if they need extra time and my car goes over that i'll be charged on top. Mike has never mapped 1 before so it will be new to him and he says it ''may'' go over the standard 3-4hr usual mapping slot!

I will get a discount though as its my 2nd map with them so im hoping all in it will be under £500. (Remember CC Ph 2 costs £650)

I'll use the money i receive from the sale of my standard turbo/Dp and cat and hopefully this should offset the majority of the mapping cost.

This as you know is obviously 4hrs worth of rolling road time aswell which no other tuner/mapper offers so i really cant complain

I wanted to keep my B.C also and i have driven a couple of other mapped LCR's (Revo/APR) and i do believe the jabba map is the best of the bunch although i am probably biased

Yes i have all the usual mods,

3'' DP/100Cel cat going into 2.75'' supersprint cat back
BMC
Full forge/samco hosing
Forge FMIC

Yes Mike was happy with mapping it for me, no problems at all

 

[J@mes]

At the moment i dont really know the cost but half a days mapping is the usual £475 and if they need extra time and my car goes over that i'll be charged on top. Mike has never mapped 1 before so it will be new to him and he says it ''may'' go over the standard 3-4hr usual mapping slot!

I will get a discount though as its my 2nd map with them so im hoping all in it will be under £500. (Remember CC Ph 2 costs £650)

This as you know is obviously 4hrs worth of rolling road time aswell which no other tuner/mapper offers so i really cant complain

I wanted to keep my B.C also and i have driven a couple of other mapped LCR's (Revo/APR) and i do believe the jabba map is the best of the bunch although i am probably biased

Yes i have all the usual mods,

3'' DP/100Cel cat going into 2.75'' supersprint cat back
BMC
Full forge/samco hosing
Forge FMIC

Yes Mike was happy with mapping it for me, no problems at all

good news then!

also i wont have to change my sig as you will be stage 3 not 2! he he

 

[Mitchy]

Yeah you'll still be quickest stage 2

 

[J@mes]

Yeah you'll still be quickest stage 2

yea dam your stage 1 with NOS!

and now your stage 3!


would be a shame if ur starts were even worse mitch with all that power!

 

[Mitchy]

yea dam your stage 1 with NOS!

and now your stage 3!


would be a shame if ur starts were even worse mitch with all that power!

Cant get much worse than a 2.45

No i think my starts will be better as ive since fitted the dogbone mounts and uprated the clutch to a racing type jobbie.

Clutch feels so much better for quick launching, i dont know how to explain it but there is a difference, it bites and grips with a lot more force and seems to be easier to launch although ive not tried it out yet at santapod, just coming out of my very long driveway

Also i've got the forge FMIC, the silicone hosing, and ive opened up the exhaust now so it will allow and give me better terminals. Along with being properly mapped to take it all into account, along with this hybrid, and along with the nitrous, i should be running santapod a little bit quicker in the future

 

[J@mes]

i would say on the perfect day a lowish 13 (13.4?!) could even be possible with a GOOD driver in ur car... cough me cough

 

[Mitchy]

Lol

Here's hoping mate

Even a decent launch on my last trip should have seen me @ 13.6 assuming i could have nailed the 60ft to 2.2. I'll also put it on a diet next time round aswell as the car had full interior on my last visit also.

Lets see if we can get a nice dry but very cold january meeting at santapod and if im having no luck i'll let you the stig have a go

 

[J@mes]

Lets see if we can get a nice dry but very cold january meeting at santapod and if im having no luck i'll let you the stig have a go

good man... it wouldnt be the first time i have beaten someone elses best time in their own car at pod either!

 

[wild willy]

Carl....Are you staying on APR mapping the same as Sie?

Yeah, for the time being.
The tubby arrived yesterday, so its time to get it fitted. I'll think i'll have a bash over crimbo to fit it, but something tells me to go to JBS or the like.
I'm looking forward to your results Mitchy as they'll be the first to fully appreciate what the turbo can or can't achieve. If you get more than 10bhp more at the wheels with a custom map as opposed to a stage 2 map tweak I'll prob go custom map.
SIE achieved 30bhp more ATW compared to my stage two on the same day but he did up his boost a little, imoh this should be quite noticeable to the butt dyno although Scotty's cautious feedback is a little disapointing. Maybe we are expecting too much.
I also fancy shedding a few LCR pounds to improve performance

 

[wild willy]

At the moment i dont really know the cost but half a days mapping is the usual £475 and if they need extra time and my car goes over that i'll be charged on top. Mike has never mapped 1 before so it will be new to him and he says it ''may'' go over the standard 3-4hr usual mapping slot!

I will get a discount though as its my 2nd map with them so im hoping all in it will be under £500. (Remember CC Ph 2 costs £650)

I'll use the money i receive from the sale of my standard turbo/Dp and cat and hopefully this should offset the majority of the mapping cost.

This as you know is obviously 4hrs worth of rolling road time aswell which no other tuner/mapper offers so i really cant complain

I wanted to keep my B.C also and i have driven a couple of other mapped LCR's (Revo/APR) and i do believe the jabba map is the best of the bunch although i am probably biased

Yes i have all the usual mods,

3'' DP/100Cel cat going into 2.75'' supersprint cat back
BMC
Full forge/samco hosing
Forge FMIC

Yes Mike was happy with mapping it for me, no problems at all

I'm glad Jabba are prepared to sort you out, but i hate the thought that Jabba are taking liberties a little if they are to charge you a full remap price. Tweaking and adjustments are needed not a full reflash. Useage of the RR must be appreciated i Know but £250 would be more like it to an existing customer.
Getting bent over is an unfortunate part of life, but i draw the line when i see a que forming.

 

[Scotty_b]

Are you getting before an after graphs? Be nice to see how much extra "Fun" you get for your cash

 

[ibizacupra]

Bill, when are you going to push your badboy into a top speed run to knock james's golf off its top spot perch

Yours should go beyond 178mph i would have thought

its something I want to try when i get time/opportunity.

I have adequate power for 170+mph, but also need to run a g'box with ratios which dont stop me out.
5spd std ratio 02j is going back in. got a tricky diff to go in it (not quaife or an atb), and the gear calcs I have on tyres i run (phat 17's) its geared for 192mph. Now I dont expect to ever see that, but will be a blast to find out on open private road with plenty of space in case of "woops"

 

[ibizacupra]

i wouldnt like to be bills brakes or balls when he does this!

nor me. needless to say on its first collection on road test when mapped on its new turbo/mani combo, it max'd in 6th before I realised why it felt flat! 8200rpm in 6th!! in not very many seconds acceleration I can tell you.
scarey as..

 

[Mitchy]

Would be good to see Bill.

Are you quietly confident its quicker and faster than james's jabbasport golf

Scotty, im not sure if i'll get a before run, the main reason being is i'll be running around for 2 weeks with the 3 bar FPR in with boost turned down. (Jbs fit this friday, jabba map 2 weeks later)

I dont really fancy turning up the boost just for a before run with current 3 bar.

Carl, i do see your point mate but its either that or the £650 for CC. I see no reason either why it cant just be tweaked, but i'm not the expert. He will need to create a 4 bar fuel map which is obviously not part of my original software and 4 hrs rolling road time aswell.

I just cant wait til its all done and dusted