Where are the jack points?

[g8rvn]

the jack supplied with the car is the worst bit of engineering ever.

I jacked mine up away from home once and the car moved a bit which bent the jack, the car fell off it and buried itself into the curved bit of the sill underneath. It made a right mess.

I use a trolley jack with one of those attachments with a pin coiming right out of it which will go into those holes covered by grommets under the car behind the sills, i'm pretty sure these are what hold the car up when they are made

 

[Damoegan]

Looks like on mine that someone jacked it up on the cill at some point and bent all the metal lip along the bottom.

Someone has done the same to mine too.

 

[kriso]

Looks like on mine that someone jacked it up on the cill at some point and bent all the metal lip along the bottom.

What do you mean 'all the metal lip' ? Wouldn't they need to jack it up repeatedly all the way along to bend the whole thing?

I thought the bent bit near the front wheel is meant to be bent as it shows you where to stick the jack

 

[Nath.]

Did my brothers brake pads last weekend and his sill was a bit mangled around the jacking point area, I used a trolley jack under the sill on the seam bit near where the rubber grommets are and it worked fine

The jack in the boot did look a bit flimsy, I spose it's for emergency use at the end of the day

 

[ettlz]

OK, let's have some pictures. First, on the left is a Polo 9N1. Note the triangle, I've jacked this car up many times by attaching the supplied worm jack to this point, with no apparent ill effect. The same place on the Ibiza MkIV on the right.

Next, the undersides. First, the Ibiza:

and the Polo (note the extra armour!):

Note the rubber grommet on the left covering what I believe is the point for a trolley jack. There are also some horizontal ridges just next to where the triangle marking is on the polo. I presume this is some reinforcement.

 

[RUM4MO]

If you are going to use these four points for jacking the car using a trolley jack, I'd use a wooden block until you have bought and fitted a complete set of "Audi TT" jacking point protectors - you can order them form any VAG outlet I would think. They are great and you can see immediately where to place the trolley jack. BTW jacking on the seams were they are double thickness should be okay - I've only ever used these points to locate axle stands that were fitted with suitably shaped wooden blocks. The AA certainly lifted my wife's 9N Polo at the seam and used a "rubber" interface to prevent damage.

 

[RUM4MO]

OK, let's have some pictures. First, on the left is a Polo 9N1. Note the triangle, I've jacked this car up many times by attaching the supplied worm jack to this point, with no apparent ill effect. The same place on the Ibiza MkIV on the right.

Next, the undersides. First, the Ibiza: and the Polo (note the extra armour!):

Note the rubber grommet on the left covering what I believe is the point for a trolley jack. There are also some horizontal ridges just next to where the triangle marking is on the polo. I presume this is some reinforcement.

The "extra armour" protects the underside but is also a mud trap (and mud+water+time = corrosion!). Maybe best to buy a complete set of retaining washers and clean this area out ever two or three years!

 

[kriso]

If you are going to use these four points for jacking the car using a trolley jack, I'd use a wooden block until you have bought and fitted a complete set of "Audi TT" jacking point protectors - you can order them form any VAG outlet I would think. They are great and you can see immediately where to place the trolley jack. BTW jacking on the seams were they are double thickness should be okay - I've only ever used these points to locate axle stands that were fitted with suitably shaped wooden blocks. The AA certainly lifted my wife's 9N Polo at the seam and used a "rubber" interface to prevent damage.

Cool..just done a bit of google-ing for these and found this: http://www.ottawa-vdubbing.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22984

If they def fit the Ibiza, then I will be getting me some

 

[RUM4MO]

Cool..just done a bit of google-ing for these and found this: http://www.ottawa-vdubbing.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22984

If they def fit the Ibiza, then I will be getting me some

Well they fitted my wife's 9N Polo - so the answer should be "YES!" - as I said it becomes obvious where to place the trolley jack - easy peasy!

Update - I'd check the dealer price first! - Well I mean before buying them elsewhere.

 

[kriso]

ETKA price comes to just over 4 euros for 4 of each so should be pretty cheap from a dealer I hope

 

[mattyb95]

Can somebody post pictures of jacking points and axle stand locations

I'm looking to take my wheels off for a thorough clean and to seal them to help keep the dust off. I want to use a trolley jack and then axle stands to make sure the car is well supported but I do not know where to position the trolley and then where to put the stands.

I have a 57 plate 1.4 100bhp Ibiza so could anybody provide photos indicating suitable jacking points and where to position the axle stands or failing that a really good description as I know very little about car mechanics so would likely put a stand through the floor if not ultra careful.

Thanks

 

[RUM4MO]

You should the info on here for the trolley jack positioning and you will need to buy? or make up wooden pads to let you support the car on stands - at the same points as you are meant to locate the car's own jack. The wooden pads need to be stepped with a groove in them to avoid marking the seams - the car is very strong at these point - double skinned.

 

[Ultra_Joel88]

at the front I place the axel stands under the big round metal bits with the rear wishbone bush in

 

[Aimez]

The second description is correct the first one makes no sense I presume Rum4MO is not from the uk?! How can you use a trolly jack in the same place you'd use the normal car jack?
On the subject does anyone know what type of trolly jack to buy for lifting the cars weight are they pricey?

 

[RUM4MO]

The second description is correct the first one makes no sense I presume Rum4MO is not from the uk?! How can you use a trolly jack in the same place you'd use the normal car jack?
On the subject does anyone know what type of trolly jack to buy for lifting the cars weight are they pricey?

Bad news I am from the UK and I have fitted the Audi jacking point protectors and I have made up and used axle stand sill stepped protectors . Unless I missed a point in my reply, I did not mean to say that I used the stands and trolley jack at the same points., Trolley jack goes under where (edit) etiz identified the large plastic plugs - remove them and replace with the jacking point protectors at four points, use the axle stands with stepped protectors at the sill (car) jacking points. As for buying a trolley jack, go to Machinemart and buy the long chassis 2ton one - the one with the two piece handle that gets clipped to the side of the jack - I've forgotten the price but it should be about £35 - check up on Machinemart site.

As for using a trolley jack in the same place you'd use the normal car jack - just call out the AA or RAC and check where they locate their trolley jack - yes that's right at these strong points on the seam - that is why the manufacturer made these areas strong!

 

[RUM4MO]

at the front I place the axel stands under the big round metal bits with the rear wishbone bush in

If you know anything about cars you should not be jacking under these points as they are aluminium - they are the consoles - avoid messing with them.

 

[Aimez]

Bad news I am from the UK and I have fitted the Audi jacking point protectors and I have made up and used axle stand sill stepped protectors . Unless I missed a point in my reply, I did not mean to say that I used the stands and trolley jack at the same points., Trolley jack goes under where (edit) etiz identified the large plastic plugs - remove them and replace with the jacking point protectors at four points, use the axle stands with stepped protectors at the sill (car) jacking points. As for buying a trolley jack, go to Machinemart and buy the long chassis 2ton one - the one with the two piece handle that gets clipped to the side of the jack - I've forgotten the price but it should be about £35 - check up on Machinemart site.

As for using a trolley jack in the same place you'd use the normal car jack - just call out the AA or RAC and check where they locate their trolley jack - yes that's right at these strong points on the seam - that is why the manufacturer made these areas strong!

Good news you are from the Uk as what you says makes sense now 35 not bad I guess dunno where machine mart is though I rather be able to go and buy one from Halfords or somwhere.

 

[Leigh15]

Halfords do a perfectly reasonable trolley jack and axle stand set - I've had mine for around 18 months or so, no problems so far

 

[Ric 2001]

Got my trolly jack and axle stands from screwfix direct.

 

[RUM4MO]

Good news you are from the Uk as what you says makes sense now 35 not bad I guess dunno where machine mart is though I rather be able to go and buy one from Halfords or somwhere.

Aimez, I think that you will find that there is only one factory in China making all these DIY or semi-profes trolley jacks - what I am getting at is that I initially blundered upon a Jack Sealey trolley jack very cheap at a motor factor, 5+ years later it loses height slowly so I looked around for a replacement. After some time I rediscovered what I said earlier (only one manufacturer of all these jacks) - and found a Machine Mart equivalent model (check on-line for store locations), and as a Machine Mart small time customer, I get notification of "VAT FREE" days - so bought the new one on one of these days - its even better having two of these jacks (old one and new one) - oh and a couple of 1.5Tonne short chassis trolley jacks (old one and a £10 one from Morrisons's! - could not walk past it!! - last one or display one being sold off cheap.) Well actually I lie, the old 1.5Tonne short chassis trolley jack died - so needs taking to bits, but I also have a 30 year old Armstrong Halford trolley jack as well. I'd still try to find your nearest Machine Mart though as it should be cheapest - remember to add VAT though - start your jack collection now!

One parting blow, until you have bought a small Halford trolley jack, and then tried the slightly larger long chassis 2.0Tonne, you do not appreciate what you are missing, this jack that I am talking about starts lower than the Halfords smaller one and lifts higher (win-win) - and probably costs less - another win! Autoexpress even think they are the best DIY size.