Those upgraded their 184 FR TDI to a Cupra....

jpor

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May 10, 2015
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Hi guys,

Not posted for a while. Still have my FR184 TDI. Although this car is a perfect fit for me in terms of the look and how the cabin is arranged etc.. I am now looking at a change but to stay with the LEON.

Have noticed in past posts on here that a few of you have gone to Petrol and to a Cupra from a 184. Can those who've done this advise if this was a good option for you? At the moment I do a 44 miles commute to and from work, normally a mixture of B, A and back to B roads with some country lanes.
The problem is I find the 184 isn't doing it for me. But not missing the trips to the garage to fill up. :)
And looking at the new Cupra 300. I am no stranger to performance cars. As previously have had a couple of Subaru Imprezas the last but one being a Prodrive modified UK STi with over 300BHP. :D
Any advice appreciated on the subject.

Cheers Jon. ;)
 

QuietQuackers

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Feb 14, 2007
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I was in the same position as you and swapping for a Cupra was a brilliant decision, it's in a different league to the 184. Really nice engine, excellent handling and it's actually fairly efficient too :) Any questions in particular?
 

jpor

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May 10, 2015
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I was in the same position as you and swapping for a Cupra was a brilliant decision, it's in a different league to the 184. Really nice engine, excellent handling and it's actually fairly efficient too :) Any questions in particular?

Yeah a few if you wouldn't mind:

- running costs. Especially fuel and the mileage to a full tank. Mpg etc..? What's was your impressions when you swapped for fuel ups compared to your 184?

- servicing costs?

- what's the suspension like compared to the 184? Always thought mine is too wibbly wobbly but was good going over speed humps.

That's all for now. :)
 

b8er1234

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Aug 29, 2012
252
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Kent
I went from a mk2 remapped fr tdi to the mk3 cupra and probably the best thing i have done. Luckily for me my drive to work is about 10 mins away so fuel isnt as much as a factor as it may be for you. I was doing about £60-80 in the mk2 fr tdi and now id provably say around £100-120 a month so not a dramatic change but my insurance went down £3 a month too haha. Servicing ive not yet had as only had the cupra 280 since feb. Ive got its first dsg oil service soon which i believe is around the £150-200 mark

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b8er1234

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Aug 29, 2012
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Just to add to my comment. Obviously the mk2 comparing to mk3 is unfair but in terms of power the cupra is awesome
 

BenH

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Sep 16, 2016
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Although I still have a long time left on my FR184 lease I find my commute to and from work doesn't really benefit a diesel much, when I got the car I was doing more miles than I do now and I feel like sitting in traffic doesn't really matter what you have. 44 miles a day however you'd always be favouring a diesel, albeit there aren't many faster than the 184 unless you take a big jump in cost.

Personally I have a habit of looking at cars way before my time and will 90% be making the shift to petrol, change in circumstance and change in diesels tax and stuff mainly but also for an affordable power increase

As it stands I'm leaning towards the 250 mark, GTI and ST level to get the balance of power vs running costs. The cupra is certainly not too much of a price increase from the 184 and you'd certainly smile your way to the petrol station on a weekly basis haha
 

QuietQuackers

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Feb 14, 2007
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Yeah a few if you wouldn't mind:

- running costs. Especially fuel and the mileage to a full tank. Mpg etc..? What's was your impressions when you swapped for fuel ups compared to your 184?

- servicing costs?

- what's the suspension like compared to the 184? Always thought mine is too wibbly wobbly but was good going over speed humps.

That's all for now. :)

I can honestly say that fuel wise there wasn't a huge difference. Yes I have to fill up slightly more in the Cupra, but it really isn't that much more often. I'm definitely not light footed either!

In terms of servicing, no difference. You'll need new tyres slightly more often, but say every 10k instead of 12k.

Suspension is so much better! Handles really well, nice and stiff when you need it, compliant and well damped over speed bumps.
 

JACUPRA280

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Jun 18, 2015
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My brother has a 184 FR. I have a Cupra 280. He has a tuning box on his. I have a tuning box on mine. But, he got his tuning box before me. I played with him on country roads in my stock Cupra and I smoked him on the straights. It wasn't even close. So yeah, even a stage 1 184 won't keep up with a stock Cupra. And now that mine has got a tuning box too, the gap is massive.
 
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rryans11

MK3 Leon Cupra 290
Feb 4, 2012
238
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UK
Yeah a few if you wouldn't mind:

- running costs. Especially fuel and the mileage to a full tank. Mpg etc..? What's was your impressions when you swapped for fuel ups compared to your 184?

- servicing costs?

- what's the suspension like compared to the 184? Always thought mine is too wibbly wobbly but was good going over speed humps.

That's all for now. :)

Thought l'd share my experiences too having previously had the 184 tdi.

My car's averaging 35mpg and will hit over 40 on a motorway (l don't drive it hard all the time).
I go through around £50 a week and the full range is usually around 400 miles; haven't emptied the tank to see how accurate that is, but expect at least 350 miles.

I get my local mechanic to do my services. I buy the parts from Dave at SERE and then he fits them, last service was £95 including the fitment of lowering springs. My guy's VAT registered so he can stamp the service book and l usually do this every 10k miles.

Stock suspension is much better than the 184 and mine didn't roll much in the corners. The handling overall is so much better and the diff works really well to keep you out of the hedge.

Overall it's a much more entertaining drive and it will put a smile on your face quite regularly.

Hope this helps.
 

jpor

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May 10, 2015
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Cheshire
Cheers for the responses. Just another couple of questions. Insurance on the Cupra compared to the 184. Big difference in price? Also car tax. Bought my 184 new in 2015 so I know I won't be paying £30 a year anymore. What's the going car tax for the new 300 Cupra. £140 inititial I believe but what then?
 

jpor

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May 10, 2015
116
1
Cheshire
Thought l'd share my experiences too having previously had the 184 tdi.

My car's averaging 35mpg and will hit over 40 on a motorway (l don't drive it hard all the time).
I go through around £50 a week and the full range is usually around 400 miles; haven't emptied the tank to see how accurate that is, but expect at least 350 miles.

I get my local mechanic to do my services. I buy the parts from Dave at SERE and then he fits them, last service was £95 including the fitment of lowering springs. My guy's VAT registered so he can stamp the service book and l usually do this every 10k miles.

Stock suspension is much better than the 184 and mine didn't roll much in the corners. The handling overall is so much better and the diff works really well to keep you out of the hedge.

Overall it's a much more entertaining drive and it will put a smile on your face quite regularly.

Hope this helps.

That's not bad MPG on the CUPRA. I'm finding that the 184 is doing around 45MPG and I'm not getting anywhere near the claimed figures. Then again I've got the DSG version.
Glad to read the suspension is firmer. Miss that in my current car. :(
 

jpor

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May 10, 2015
116
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Cheshire
I can honestly say that fuel wise there wasn't a huge difference. Yes I have to fill up slightly more in the Cupra, but it really isn't that much more often. I'm definitely not light footed either!

In terms of servicing, no difference. You'll need new tyres slightly more often, but say every 10k instead of 12k.

Suspension is so much better! Handles really well, nice and stiff when you need it, compliant and well damped over speed bumps.

Cheers quietquackers. :D
 

jpor

Active Member
May 10, 2015
116
1
Cheshire
My brother has a 184 FR. I have a Cupra 280. He has a tuning box on his. I have a tuning box on mine. But, he got his tuning box before me. I played with him on country roads in my stock Cupra and I smoked him on the straights. It wasn't even close. So yeah, even a stage 1 184 won't keep up with a stock Cupra. And now that mine has got a tuning box too, the gap is massive.

Yeah. Let's just say I've also had a play with a couple of Cupras. The take off was epic compared to what I could achieve :cry:
 

BenH

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Sep 16, 2016
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Nottingham
That's not bad MPG on the CUPRA. I'm finding that the 184 is doing around 45MPG and I'm not getting anywhere near the claimed figures. Then again I've got the DSG version.

Glad to read the suspension is firmer. Miss that in my current car. :(



Thank god someone else with 45 average in the FR! I blame my heavy foot and 24/7 sport engine mode but when I was getting 35 from my turbo corsa, 45 in a 2.0 diesel is a lot less than expected. Can get 55+ on a long journey but generally 40s
 

rryans11

MK3 Leon Cupra 290
Feb 4, 2012
238
9
UK
Cheers for the responses. Just another couple of questions. Insurance on the Cupra compared to the 184. Big difference in price? Also car tax. Bought my 184 new in 2015 so I know I won't be paying £30 a year anymore. What's the going car tax for the new 300 Cupra. £140 inititial I believe but what then?

Mine actually worked out cheaper on the Cupra, although l changed insurance company for that. Price was around £550 l think...l'm 26 if that's any help. Tax for the dsg 280 is £145 per year
 
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