Santa`s JABBA IHI powered LCR

Ruddmeister

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Nice writeup and a fantastic spec car, you have done things the way I would like to if the ££££'s ever become avialble.

Think the uprated internals are a sensibe option......two questions remain.

- Can you stop modding the car, even after the bling?
- How long will you keep you licence if you start racing Fezza's and Porkers ;)

Drive carefully and enjoy.....
 

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Hi Songman,

I was at Jabba yesterday for a custom remap and they showed me your powergraph and we had a chat about it - your car sounds nutty, truly amazing!

I also had the opportunity (thanks to Nick - what a nice bloke!) to be driven in and then have a drive myself of their IHI Audi A3. This had 350bhp and was truly rapid. I can only start to imagine what 360 is like in a Leon.

I'll give a full review of my remap and whole experience of the day (including the A3) at a later stage. I want to play a bit more in it first. First impressions? Wow. Money very well spent. I am glad I went to Jabba and I would recommend them to anyone.

David
 

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Aye Rob! - apologies for the delayed reply - these modern chimneys really slow me down - they build them awfie wee these days don`they - suppose too, i`m gettin to be a fat git `cause I do eat all the the mince pies i`m left - then I had to muck oot the reindeer , and get the sleigh`s MOT ready for next year - Och! a Santa`s work is never done - hope you had a good Christmas anyway! - Best wishes to you and all SCN chums :)

Now where was I? - Quaife Diff - the car has a Quaife fitted and an uprated S***s clutch!!
Notice now, I didn`t spell the brand name in full, for fear of upsetting your Xmas digestion as I spotted from you recent posts that you are having trouble with S***s clutches - knowing how meticulous you are with your car and it`s spec, I can well understand how upset you are ! - You have my sympathies - I would be the same!! :doh: :cry:
Don`t know what to think really. I will have to reserve judgement till I see how I fare - The car averaged max 368 BHP and 373 ft/ lbs torque on the Dyno runs, and Mike didn`t spare its blushes - no sign of any slippage yet - I`ll soon let you know if there is!

The` Jabba` car is just surperb - I am so chuffed with it, and I feel it has been well worth the wait, and what a wait! - It must be 3years+ since Jim at Star chased APR to do the kit for me, but they weren`t interested in casting the manifold for RHD - they are now by the way!! I recently heard form Guy in APR Australia and the manifold now exists in RHD form, and they are well on the way to completing the Garrett kit for RHD Transverse - I am a great admirer of APR engineering and I know their kit will be something else when it arrives!!!

The last three years, I have generally been making a pest of myself around all those who I thought could do the conversion - I`d even thought of approaching Dahlback in Sweden and recently was getting so frustrated that I was considering Sportec!!! - nah! - not even I would pay those prices!!
Jabba have had the hardware for a while - their exhaust manifold is an excellent, proven, cast high nickel, ceramic coated design, and have in general a huge amount of experience preparing the 1.8T -The delay was on the software side - and once Milke got round to finishing the software for the ME7.5 ecu, then it was all go!! - I was real chuffed when they were first to the post and offered to do my car - the first RHD LCR to get their IHI treatment.

Suppose it`s strange to say, but when it actually came to getting the car done, after all this time waiting, I approached the prospect with a deal of of trepidation!! - mostly because I am a fussy `old git` -for me, a car is such an amalgam of attributes - pollute the magic and I personally quickly lose interest - the buzz i get from a car is the product of a subtle cocktail of a number of attributes, only one of which is BHP!! - and despite the great potential displayed on paper by the basic design, I was seriouisly concerned that I could be heading for a Max Power monster, with all the connotations that that concept implies!!! - I had visions of poor drivability, noise, harshness - compulsory weekly rebuilds, and all the rest!!

Well i`ve done 800 miles so far and as far as reliability goes all I can say is that nothing has yet fallen off, we`ll just have to see! - however no funny lights have come on - and all in all the the car fires up and goes about its daily business just like it was a standard LCR.
It has lost none of that wonderful `dual personality`that I like so much - I can still relax and potter about in the upper gears, getting approx 25mpg ,wafting along with the torque, whilst listening to the stereo, which thankfully still remains audible!! - and yet on the other hand, should the mood take me, I have perfomance on tap of junior `supercar` proportions - it`s mighty quick!!
The IHI spools up just like the KO4, but unlike the KO4 it gives 320+bhp between 4500 and 7500! - Mike has done a fabulous job with the mapping, real smooth power delivery with a broad flat top end - the drivability is fab and the car is so easy to control with the throttle, despite all the horsepower - I am seeing 1.65 bar mid range and 1.27 bar at 7500 rpm with 18degC engine inlet temp in this cold weather!! - don`t know what that is on the dyno but on the road it is `impreeeessssssivvvveee` - 150 speedo readings available on quite modest straights!!
I have a sneaking feeling that it might run to 7000+rpm[340BHP] in top, given its head and with gearing of approx 25mph/1000 in 6th with the 235/40/18 rubber - well that`s movin` along very smartly :D
The final effect of all the mods is in a way, greater than `the sum of the parts` - the brakes haul it down from 150 so positively without any hint of drama - the suspension mods, the diff. and Jabba`s realtime variable boost control, combine to tame the worst excesses of FWD `waywardness` and the initial stiffness smoothes out at speed making the car feel so much more `planted` than the standard set up - the motor has a new, menacing, hard edged howl to it - the whole car has a hightened confidence and sense of purpose, - it just `huckles down` and goes! believe me! - yet paradoxically, it does so with an aura less stressed and more relaxed than the standard car - its an amazing transformation!

Rest assured, in IHI form, the LCR can exist and well acquit itself in a dimention far beyond that of the standard parameters - it is safe, practical, looks ` a dream`, goes like stink, and, all in all, is `stonkin good fun`!
It must surely be the greatest ever `hot hatch`

Respect then to the VAG engineers for the inherent strengths of their basic design :thumbup:
and more so to the lads at Jabbasport for refining the product brilliantly , and producing one for lucky old me!! :D
 

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Yes indeed I am Bill, and you will know exactly why!! - and I have to say that happiness owes good measure to you yourself - I`ve read wth great interest the development progress of your own motor - all credit to you ! - what a machine you have now!!! :clap: :worship: - and the insights and experiences you offered, gave me the path to follow, and the confidence to go forward, and get the work done!
To provide a finished, `marketable` product like the IHI conversion is no mean feat for a company of international standing, let alone a small group of guys like the Jabbamen - so credit where credit is due to them for quality work, and a job well done!! - they are a really great team as you know.
I just wanted to write in support of the whole IHI idea, because though the LCR has finished production, there is in fact a whole new era about to evolve for it, with much potential left there to be exploited by those sharp enough to see it.

The message to all is - don`t sell your LCR!, you`ll regret it - hang on to it, hammer the plastic - life is short! - and go for the IHI and give yourself `lodsa fun and the drive of yur life`

The only real problem I think you will have, is keping yourself off the front page of the newspapers!!! :banned: ;)
 

ibizacupra

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They do 160mph speedo's just to tease you...

"Hello officer.. I was just testing my new found turbo power... cuffs? what are they for?"

Roll on some dry (grippy) weather..
just got me some fresh tyres fitted this morning on my 16's and they actually seem to want to grip, which is unusual.

Glad you are happy...
Enjoy...

:)
 

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Songman said:
The` Jabba` car is just surperb - I am so chuffed with it, and I feel it has been well worth the wait, and what a wait! - It must be 3years+ since Jim at Star chased APR to do the kit for me, but they weren`t interested in casting the manifold for RHD - they are now by the way!! I recently heard form Guy in APR Australia and the manifold now exists in RHD form, and they are well on the way to completing the Garrett kit for RHD Transverse - I am a great admirer of APR engineering and I know their kit will be something else when it arrives!!!

Yeah Jim waited and waited for APR and eventually gave up and put his S3 up for sale, he is aiming at a Stage 2 VF supercharged R32 with 350BHP now.

I can't travel down South for anything so am limited to what's up here - which is zero. But with the ATP Garrett Eliminators coming out very soon and APR Stage 3 (if what you say is correct) too - the future seems to hold 300+ for me too!
 
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cupra R con

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ibizacupra said:
so your sort of quite happy then... :)
:roflmao: :roflmao:

glad to see some Leon boys going for big mods, there was only one a while back ;)
it seems Bill is an inspiration to us all, its only the depths of our pockets stopping more doing the same.

Enjoy your new found power, & thanks to Bill & Rob for continuously posting story's of serious power to inspire others to do the same.
roll on 300bhp, its coming :D
:cheers:
 

MantisGW

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I drove Songmans LCR on boxing day and can say without a doubt - jammy b*****d :) We also tried it up against my LCR (270bhp) and he left me sitting like warp factor 9 it wasn't even close. Songman has done it the right way with all the mods he's got - quick and safe plus the advantage of use-ability. Congrats must go to the team at Jabba for a great job superbly done.
 

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MantisGW said:
I drove Songmans LCR on boxing day and can say without a doubt - jammy b*****d :) We also tried it up against my LCR (270bhp) and he left me sitting like warp factor 9 it wasn't even close. Songman has done it the right way with all the mods he's got - quick and safe plus the advantage of use-ability. Congrats must go to the team at Jabba for a great job superbly done.

Thanks Mantis GW!! - here`s some pics for Chris and the dyno chart :)

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Cheers! :funk:
 

Triple D

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some nice pics there songman, bet your loving the power. Any body tried it on since having the work done on it?
 

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spaniels fr said:
some nice pics there songman, bet your loving the power. Any body tried it on since having the work done on it?

I`m still getting used to it! - and it takes some getting use to! - the roads and the weather conditions just now are not condusive to great globs of FWD power - or any other sort of power for that matter!!

Drew alongside one of the latest A3 3.2 litre jobs the other day, on the dual carriageway exit from a roundabout - he wellied it and so did I - so I was leaving him but not as fast as I would have thought - `IHI power is perhaps not all its made out to be`, drifted across my consciousness :confused:
I then realised that the little black knob on the dash was turned fully anticlockwise - Mike had called this knob `boost control` :think: - as per his instructions, :joystick: I turned the lttle black knob to the fully clockwise position - Ah ha!! :rolleyes:

I was full bore in fourth gear at the time doing +++mph and all of a sudden all hell broke loose :-o - the wheels started to spin :help: - theworld became a blur and along with it, so did the Audi!!! :D
OK ! yes! I did gloat a bit - I admit it! - however,as the Audi faded into the distance, the prospect of another somewhat more profound encounter loomed ominously into focus :cop: :banned: :cry:
So I quickly returned the little black knob to the fully anticlockwise position, applied the middle pedal, as discretely as is possible for one to do at times like that and - in the due passage of time :wtf: ) - I resumed my usual stately 50mph cruise :redface:
The Audi eventually caught up - some days later - and of course, whizzed past at +++ mph - Dammed speeders I thought :whistle:

As I said er! - it takes a bit of getting used to - :drive2: :)
 

Scotty_b

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Engine looks good, does the stock cover fit on still? Also ive noticed no silicon pipes on the IC side, with all that power i thought you may have gone for those?

Love the wheels too and that yellow looks so much deeper than mine
 

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Engine looks good, does the stock cover fit on still? Also ive noticed no silicon pipes on the IC side, with all that power i thought you may have gone for those?

Love the wheels too and that yellow looks so much deeper than mine

Thanks Scotty - the cover doesn`t fit because of the Dahlback - I always felt it retained too much heat anyway, so I wanted to get rid of it - had the cam cover polished - looks a good job

I will put upper Samcos on it[ there are Samcos on the lower IC intercooler inlet/outlet] - I have some more bling to do yet - the standard hoses work OK though.
As for the colour - must just be the light - it was quite dull when I took the shots, so I upped the contrast

The wheels I love too, but it is going to be difficult to keep them A1 - they protrude a bit and because they are so wide[8.5"], they are vulnerable to kerbing/stones and the rest!!
 

Scotty_b

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Ouch! look dam good tho! Get curb probes!

Thats a shame as i wanted to get a Dahlback mani further down the like but keep the stock cover for looks. Mind you the polished look, gives it a beasty look!

What else is going on under there then? As basicly you have exactly what i want to do, so i can kind of see into the future with yours!
 

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Aint @rse licking but songman's LCR has been done right, brakes/wheels/suspension/IHI.... etc etc proper job, congrats man, even same colour for you to see scotty :) yellow samco's all the way for complete bling though songman :bleh:
 
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