Santa`s JABBA IHI powered LCR

[Songman]

Get a spare MAF too mate, also those EGT'S are awesome very low............would have thought you would have seen 900' Deg c

Respect Vern! - You know a lot more about the control side than me - I am not sure where the sensor is sighted - I don`t think it is in the manifold - probably downstream in the downpipe somewhere - will the location not affect the temp measured - it is highest when the mixture leans out on part throttle running - I am also using Aquamist 80/20 water/methanol because of the ambient temps

 

[Songman]

APR stage 3+ kit is coming out soon with a moddified GT28RS with similar figures not sure on cost but can't see it being anymore than Jabba's IHI kit! Will still be a good buy! They are developing a RHD kit in Oz as we speak which is aound 60% complete. It's for the 225 TT, S3 so i'm guessing it will fit a LCR!

We need some more BT LCRs well done songman

Should indeed be some bit of kit - I have a lot of regard for APR engineering - I have been E mailing Guy in Australia back and forth for updates and had a long conversation about it with Steven at the Awesome open day - great stuff!

 

[BeEzA]

Some Pics as promised of songmans beast.

 

[dan-ish]

Very nice

 

[ibizacupra]

whats with the JA BBA plate....

you a fan now?

 

[Songman]

whats with the JA BBA plate....

you a fan now?

Ah Ha Bill!! - the plate is a lot older than the car, because I have been waiting
-----Sooooooo lonnnnngggg
Did Mike never tell you about the insane dishevelled Scotsman who was living rough out on the flatlands at night and picketing his doorstep by day -these last long long years!!

I bough it `in hope` you could say - Just a finishing touch , as it was the first LCR they had done - not the first Leon however, but I don`t think the owner of that car contributes to Cupranet

Anyway, the plate serves to intrigue and impress - err well impress - the locals as it disappears into the distance

 

[ibizacupra]

their other plates were S400JAB... but yours is better..

 

[RobDon]

Love the polished Dahlback manifold, blue Samco on your intercooler pipe to match the turbo hose would finish it off! Looks great and goes even better - top job by yourself and Jabba, boys know their stuff alright!

 

[chiefsilverback]

when the sky is blue, the roads are dry and the spirits high - you`ll know exactly what I mean!!

Big respect for spending the cash and getting the car to that level of tune but I must confess, in the conditions you describe there I'd much rather be in a drop top RWD!!!

I think that for me the prospect of big power in an LCR (or similar) doesn't appeal because, even though on a motorway you can hold your own against Porsches and Ferraris etc... when you hit a windy road you wouldn't see which way an Evo FQ340 went (dependent on driver) and for me that's more important than being able to break the land speed record!!

 

[neeleyveeley]

Just read through this thread and looks like a very impressive motor. Glad you also covered all the options as you still hear the odd horror story of things not holding up as well as they should be. Long wait for it all to happen but well worth it in the end and looking the IHI is only a very small part of whats really been done.

Figures are impressive to look at but as already said just wait for dryer conditions and stickier roads so you can maximise the full potential you now have in the car.

 

[Cheekymonkey]

Great figures there songman... I saw your car on lifts at Jabba over xmas - when I saw the porsche brakes, I thought there'd be something special under there!

Love the sportec's too - look great on the Leon.

 

[RobDon]

I have done a mini feature of Songman's Jabba'd buzzin' hornet on my website, I'll be doing more on modified SEAT's in the future which are worthy of some much-deserved attention, you can find it here: http://www.rd20vturbo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/feature1.html

I may be switching back to a full-blown site in the near future, we'll see how these features go!

 

[Empi5]

Fantastic looking car mate, can i just ask about your suspension set up. More importantly do you have any spacers fitted ?

EDIT: Just looked back through the post, noticed its 6mm integral spacers ! Looks like thats the way forward

 

[LEO LION R]

WELL DONE THAT MAN, i've not been paying much attention for the last month or two on the forums.

Fantastic and about bleedin time too (3 years and still worth it), i am guessing that MantisGW is a tad jealous me too

Keep seeing oyu about, but you must be ignoring me in my oddie, you must be on the look out for those common 911's

C U soon

 

[Songman]

I have done a mini feature of Songman's Jabba'd buzzin' hornet on my website, I'll be doing more on modified SEAT's in the future which are worthy of some much-deserved attention, you can find it here: http://www.rd20vturbo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/feature1.html

I may be switching back to a full-blown site in the near future, we'll see how these features go!

Thanks Rob!! -what with your car and now mine, seems Scotland`s the place to go for hotshot Leons!!! - Hoots Mon!!

 

[Songman]

Fantastic looking car mate, can i just ask about your suspension set up. More importantly do you have any spacers fitted ?

EDIT: Just looked back through the post, noticed its 6mm integral spacers ! Looks like thats the way forward

We used Eibach Pro-Sport coilovers dropped 20mm from standard - this is about as low as I would like to go for the road - problems getting on dealers ramps etc, the splitter gets a hard time over `humps`and sometimes there`s contact with inner wings at speed on poor surfaces
The setup is quite hard around town at speeds appropriate to that - the Corsas have very stiff sidewalls - but once playtime comes then it all settles down very nicely and feels very much more planted than the standard kit
The handling is pretty neutral - with Eibach rear ARB and Eibach front ARB set to softest setting - the diff is great and a must for BT car as are the suspension changes - of course with so much power things can get - err `mental` - and the greatest traction aid is a sensitive right foot - mind you JABBAS vari - boost is an extremely handy, natty little device, and great fun into the bargin!!
The Sportecs 8.5/18 wil fit over the standard R Brembos without the need for spacers - the Porsche Brembos are much bigger and need ~6mm spacers - Sportec do integral 10mm spacers which attach with 3 countersunk machine screws to the hub face of the wheel - very secure and no wobbles - I had them machined down to 6mm and with the 235/40/18 on 8.5 rims the setup is right on the limit of the standard wheel arches

 

[Ianb]

Songman

What's the latest on you from your original post.....been running for over a year now with IHI power....any reliability issues??

Hopefully not that I've now taken the plunge with the help of Bill and some ex TSR. I'm pegging mine back somewhat unless I uprate the rods and valves which I'm thinking is probably a good idea for track.

Will probably go for a engine check over as it's now 100k but it has been pretty much faultless apart from MAF. Been running APR stage 2 and FMIC Milltek etc since new almost...nice package but now bored.

Only thing I'm worried about is melting turbo housings...how much are these on P18/20 housings?Low boost 1.2-1.4 max should help.

Baffled sump catch tank to be fitted too.

 

[paul26982]

how much did it cost for the ihi

 

[ibizacupra]

another P20 housing failure on my old golfy with poor old matt h.
IHI's achillees heel when its not bearings expiring

only ran 1bar boost round combe too.
mapped on motec so I have no idea what egt's it ran, but it was mapped @ Owen developments with Keith (Dialynx). Cracked Jabba exhaust manifold too. (albeit its an old one in the scheme of things)

 

[Songman]

Songman

What's the latest on you from your original post.....been running for over a year now with IHI power....any reliability issues??

Hopefully not that I've now taken the plunge with the help of Bill and some ex TSR. I'm pegging mine back somewhat unless I uprate the rods and valves which I'm thinking is probably a good idea for track.

Will probably go for a engine check over as it's now 100k but it has been pretty much faultless apart from MAF. Been running APR stage 2 and FMIC Milltek etc since new almost...nice package but now bored.

Only thing I'm worried about is melting turbo housings...how much are these on P18/20 housings?Low boost 1.2-1.4 max should help.

Baffled sump catch tank to be fitted too.

I have no doubts whatsoever about the reliability of the IHI for normal road use - I have no regrets at all and I would do exactly the same again
I felt much like youself when I was considering the prospect of getting work done on my car - all I ever read was stories of disasters - so i can well understand you concerns

I have had problems but I put them down to my own lack of experience and my own foolish forgetfulness regarding the maxim - `if it ain`t broke don`t try to fix it`

Prior to GTI Inters and purely,and for cosmetic reasons alone, I decided to change the DV - the car had been going so well for 17k miles I guess i was getting bored and looking for something to do!
The valve I was supplied with was faulty - that is the kindest description I can offer in the public domain - and in a period of 10 days from fitting, it caused the turbo bearings to fail[ as a consequence of the valve`s inability to do any `diverting`] and I was landed with a £1000 bill for a new unit - I was not a happy bunny
The big caveat here is to very careful with what you fit - all that glitters is not gold or silver or polished alloy or what have you! - because it looks nice doesn`t mean it works any better - Top tuners like APR even retain the standard Bosch DV and VAG airbox in their BT applications

I am well over that now having done over 17k with the new unit without any probs

I am still using the original turbo exhaust housing, manifold and downpipe at 34k IHI miles without any problems - the highest EGT i`ve see is 870 deg downstream of the turbo - and that was after a good thrashing, and i`m talking here about really ffaasstt - if the car is correctly engineered and set up by a competent professional, then in road use, you`re more likely to end up in jail before you do an exhaust housing.
Hope this helps - I am hoping to do a more comprehensive overview of my years IHI motoring with outline costs etc when I have more time to post over the holiday period