RR today graph inside help required please

[LEE69]

Spoke to them this morning and they are going to re-do it.

 

[LEE69]

I couldn't log it like i did mine the other night, 2nd/3rd gears, just far to busy but this is what i have managed to get
Max of 158.25 g/s compared to mine of 157.72 g/s
Was showing the same boost too.

Monday	10	May	2010	13:28:22		
06A 906 032 DE 		1.8L R4/5VT         0001				
						
	Group A:	003				Group B:
		Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle	
	TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP
	0.36	3520	52.47	21.6	13.5	
	0.76	3760	95.03	87.5	18	
	1.17	4080	96.83	100	28.5	
	1.67	4520	117.17	100	18.8	
	2.07	4840	122.86	100	24.8	
	2.58	5080	99.97	34.5	3.8	
	3.09	5440	126.89	95.7	15	
	3.59	5760	154.69	100	16.5	
	3.99	6000	158.25	100	14.3	
	4.39	6240	154.94	100	21	
	4.9	6360	2.58	11	9	
	5.4	5320	13.94	7.1	13.5	
	5.8	4480	115.56	93.3	27	
	6.2	4640	120.67	100	15	
	6.69	4800	121.5	100	17.3	
	7.11	4920	123.03	100	19.5	
	7.51	5040	125.28	100	21.8	
	8	5200	129.06	100	24.8	
	8.42	5360	136.11	100	17.3	
	8.8	5480	141.64	100	17.3	
	9.22	5600	144.75	100	19.5	
	9.62	5680	144.69	100	20.3	
	10.02	5800	144.47	100	20.3	
	10.44	5920	146.33	100	19.5	
	10.93	6040	147.08	100	20.3	
	11.33	6200	148.31	100	4.5	
	11.83	5480	15.11	6.3	10.5	
	12.23	4960	76.11	45.1	23.3	
	12.63	4680	127.25	96.5	14.3	
	13.03	4720	122.53	100	16.5	
	13.44	4760	119.5	100	18	
	13.84	4800	120.5	100	16.5	
	14.24	4880	123.72	100	19.5	
	14.66	4800	9.86	3.9	4.5	
	15.04	4640	11.31	5.9	4.5	
	15.55	4280	7.83	6.7	3	
	15.95	4000	7.67	6.3	3	
	16.36	3720	6.42	5.9	2.3	
	16.75	3440	6.28	5.5	1.5	
	274.61	3680	8.56	6.7	2.3	
	275	3640	8.31	7.1	2.3	
	275.4	3600	8.53	7.1	2.3	
	275.8	3560	8.42	6.7	2.3	
	276.2	3520	8.44	6.7	2.3	
	276.62	3480	8.53	6.7	1.5	
	277.11	3440	7.81	6.3	3.8	
	277.51	3400	7.78	6.3	3	
	277.91	3360	7.78	6.3	1.5	
	278.31	3240	7.69	6.3	1.5	
	278.73	3040	7.22	6.3	1.5	
	279.23	2840	7.44	5.9	0.8	
	279.63	2600	6.75	5.5	0	
	280.03	2360	6.33	5.1	1.5	
	280.43	2160	5.61	4.3	2.3	
	280.83	2040	5.61	4.3	2.3	
	281.24	1960	5.28	3.9	3	
	281.74	1440	3.08	2.4	4.5	
	282.25	1160	2.86	2.4	1.5	
	282.65	1200	2.67	1.6	5.3	
	283.15	1600	3.92	3.1	3.8	
	283.66	1520	4.08	3.1	9	
	284.06	1480	4.36	3.5	22.5	
	284.46	1440	4.47	3.9	22.5	
	284.95	1360	6.36	5.1	18.8	
	285.37	1320	6.64	5.5	18	
	285.86	1360	16.64	12.9	5.3	
	286.26	1400	16.67	12.5	3	
	286.66	1440	11.5	8.2	5.3	
	287.06	1480	7.53	6.3	10.5	
	287.48	1480	8.31	6.7	17.3	
	287.98	1520	12.67	9	17.3	
	288.38	1560	12.58	9	13.5	
	288.78	1640	16.78	12.9	18.8	
	289.29	1760	25.39	20.4	10.5	
	289.78	1960	33.69	87.5	20.3	
	290.18	2120	43.22	100	16.5	
	290.58	2360	52.89	100	15	
	291	2680	67.53	100	15	
	291.4	3000	78.42	100	14.3	
	291.8	3320	89.61	100	10.5	
	292.2	3680	89.31	100	18.8	
	292.6	4000	97.39	100	21.8	
	293.11	4400	109.56	100	20.3	
	293.51	4720	117.36	100	20.3	
	293.91	5000	125.11	100	17.3	
	294.42	5360	133	100	20.3	
	294.82	5680	140.72	100	18.8	
	295.34	6000	146.83	100	22.5	
	295.74	6240	148.83	100	20.3	
	296.13	6360	155.64	98.4	4.5	
	296.63	5600	17	7.1	11.3	
	297.03	5000	45.53	24.7	34.5	
	297.43	4480	105.86	74.1	19.5	
	297.83	4640	117.47	100	21	
	298.23	4720	125.83	99.2	2.3	
	298.65	4760	69.92	28.2	0.8	
	299.05	4720	4.53	8.2	12	
	299.45	4640	7.64	6.3	3.8	
	299.85	4360	7.53	6.3	3	
	300.25	3760	7.08	5.9	2.3	
	300.65	3200	6.06	5.1	1.5	
	301.16	3360	6.19	5.5	4.5	
	301.56	3320	6.78	5.5	1.5	
	301.96	3240	7.33	5.9	1.5	
	302.45	3160	7.28	6.3	1.5	
	302.85	3120	7.11	5.9	1.5	
	303.27	3040	7.08	5.9	1.5	
	303.77	2960	7.22	5.9	0.8	
	304.16	2880	7.47	5.9	0.8	
	304.56	2800	7.11	5.9	0.8	
	304.98	2720	6.75	5.9	0

 

[wild willy]

Is there anyone that you can swap air fiilters with as the mushroom one could be holding it back. It doesn't look like it has a great cross sectional area and when on the limits can hold back airflow and hence boost.

 

[james walker]

whats changed lee?

 

[LEE69]

Not sure on the filter as they use these on the japs and they command more than mine, i can try it though.

James nothing tried mates MAF and getting the same readings, going back Wednesday to get the map re-uploaded, and go from there.

 

[Mylo]

what air feed have you got going to the filter Lee ?

 

[LEE69]

Just the standard one HKS is sitting in my lower air box.

 

[Mylo]

maybe try dumping the box I gained a few extra ponies by fitting the 100mm feed from down where the foglight should be.

 

[LEE69]

165 gs x 1.3 = 214.5 bhp

157 gs x 1.3 = 204.1 bhp

tbh lee with the g/s then for generic stage 1 then bhp isnt far off what it would be

may be 1.25 is more accurate tbh, anyways if 1.25 then your at 196bhp.....

Had it tweaked today

Now getting 160.75 g/s which is just under 201 bhp

Wednesday	12	May	2010	19:58:25											
06A 906 032 DE 		1.8L R4/5VT         0001													
															
	Group A:	003				Group B:	115				Group C:	118			
		Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0	1440	22.39	81.6	15	0.4	1440	82	1640	1180	0.8	1480	32	95.3	1190
	1.21	1520	25	85.5	14.3	1.61	1520	85	1670	1210	2.01	1560	32	95.3	1220
	2.53	1280	9.28	1.6	3.8	2.93	1120	18.8	1000	1060	3.33	1080	31	95.3	1020
	3.82	2440	46.86	75.7	25.5	4.24	2360	103.8	1850	1370	4.73	2480	32	100	1580
	5.23	2600	71.11	100	11.3	5.65	2720	141.4	1820	1860	6.14	2840	32	75.3	1910
	6.54	2960	80.33	100	9.8	6.94	3080	139.1	1800	1800	7.34	3160	33	71	1800
	7.76	3280	87.56	100	10.5	8.25	3400	139.8	1750	1770	8.65	3520	33	68.6	1760
	9.05	3600	91.61	100	18	9.45	3720	138.3	1770	1770	9.87	3840	34	71	1790
	10.27	3920	102.64	100	16.5	10.67	4000	139.1	1800	1770	11.17	4160	36	72.9	1790
	11.57	4240	114.03	100	15.8	11.98	4320	139.8	1800	1780	12.38	4440	37	73.3	1790
	12.78	4520	125.08	100	16.5	13.28	4640	142.1	1800	1780	13.68	4720	39	74.1	1780
	14.09	4800	131.19	100	16.5	14.49	4920	139.8	1790	1770	14.89	5000	39	75.7	1790
	15.29	5080	134.92	100	18.8	15.69	5160	141.4	1810	1800	16.09	5240	42	77.6	1790
	16.51	5320	147.94	100	15.8	17.02	5440	143.6	1840	1830	17.52	5520	44	79.6	1820
	17.92	5600	156.94	100	18	18.41	5680	143.6	1820	1810	18.81	5720	45	79.6	1790
	19.23	5800	155.19	100	18	19.63	5880	139.1	1780	1760	20.03	5960	47	79.2	1740
	20.43	6000	159.75	99.6	22.5	20.84	6080	136.1	1750	1770	21.34	6160	48	78.8	1740
	21.74	6200	160.75	100	21.8	22.14	6280	134.6	1740	1730	22.54	6320	49	78.4	1740
	22.94	6080	6.42	4.3	13.5	23.43	5240	12	1000	1130	23.83	4600	44	0	1070
	24.25	4040	7.36	6.3	3	24.75	4880	12	1000	1050	25.15	4880	42	0	1050
	25.55	4800	11	8.2	4.5	25.96	4760	12	1000	1050	26.46	4680	40	0	1050
	26.86	4640	11.44	8.2	3.8	27.26	4600	12	1000	1050	27.66	4560	39	0	1050
	28.07	4520	10.97	8.2	3.8	28.57	4480	12.8	1000	1050	28.97	4400	39	0	1050
	29.48	4360	10.44	7.8	3	29.88	4320	12	1000	1050	30.38	4240	38	0	1050
	30.89	4160	10.31	7.5	3	31.29	4080	12.8	1000	1050	31.69	4000	37	0	1040
	32.19	3920	9.39	7.5	2.3	32.58	3840	12.8	1000	1040	33	3800	36	0	1040
	33.5	3760	9.31	7.1	2.3	33.9	3680	12	1000	1040	34.3	3640	36	0	1040
	34.7	3640	8.94	7.1	2.3	35.11	3600	12.8	1000	1040	35.61	3560	36	0	1040
	36.01	3520	9.08	6.7	2.3	36.41	3480	12	1000	1040	36.82	3440	35	0	1030
	37.32	3400	10.33	8.2	27	37.72	3400	48.1	1000	1040	38.23	3320	33	0	1210
	38.63	3000	8.89	4.7	1.5	39.13	2680	15	1000	1050	39.64	3720	33	0	1090
	40.04	3960	57.31	27.1	32.3	40.44	4040	127.1	1830	1610	40.84	4120	31	76.1	1850
	41.24	4200	116.25	100	13.5	41.75	4280	143.6	1810	1800	42.25	4400	30	74.1	1810
	42.65	4480	123.14	100	14.3	43.05	4560	144.4	1810	1780	43.45	4640	30	75.3	1800
	43.86	4680	126	100	18.8	44.26	4760	142.9	1790	1790	44.66	4840	33	75.7	1790
	45.08	4920	135.28	100	15	45.56	4960	142.1	1790	1790	45.97	5040	35	76.1	1780
	46.37	5080	138.53	100	16.5	46.79	5160	144.4	1810	1790	47.27	5200	37	77.6	1800
	47.69	5280	145.14	99.6	17.3	48.09	5280	81.2	1000	2250	48.49	4640	36	0	1190
	48.89	4080	10.08	6.3	3	49.29	4160	18	1000	1040	49.8	4080	36	90.6	1370
	50.2	4120	104.78	100	10.5	50.6	4160	142.1	1800	1850	51.09	4160	37	71	1790
	51.49	4000	15.86	4.3	3	51.91	3480	11.3	1000	1100	52.4	3440	34	0	1040
	52.81	3360	53.56	26.7	28.5	53.2	3360	120.3	1780	1510	53.62	3360	36	69	189

 

[Mylo]

Marked improvement, how's it feel on the road now Lee ?

Atmospherics will be playing havoc with turbo cars at the moment with this shitty weather.

 

[LEE69]

Very smooth and progressive, hopefully no more runs needed now lol

 

[james walker]

looks better lee, boost fine, maf good now for stage 1.

fmic would help mate, inlet temps a little high on smic.

 

[LEE69]

Yeah one day lol

 

[greesha]

Mine (stage 1 LC) is pumping up to 179 at 4k RPM and then drops down. Your g/s seems to constantly increase up to 160 at 6200. Probably differences between maps, right?

FMIC would be responsible for that?

 

[james walker]

fmic no input on g/s greesha.

probably the jetex over the hks thats seeing different g/s

 

[greesha]

and 102 mm cold air feed from where foglight used to be probably

 

[LEE69]

fmic no input on g/s greesha.

probably the jetex over the hks thats seeing different g/s

Maybe I'll ditch the HKS and buy a Jetex

What does the standard air box pull, any idea?

 

[james walker]

not sure lee.... but jetex proven for high g/s. 50 quid delivered from bill

 

[Damoegan]

Standard airbox is still good for 160-170g/s

 

[LEE69]

I shall put it back on and try