Sorry mate. I wanted to rake some for you on Sunday but I didn't clean it as I was trying to make this pump fit. When I clean it I'll take some. It dies look very good, a few people have commented.
You posted a link above Aaron to USRT, clink on the image of the Genesis 550's (it fills my screen) and compare (blue and green o rings). Looking at thoose logs i still don't feel you've been given the correct injectors. The revo software isn't at fault it can't be. If you can prove with a cheapo gauge that you have 3 bar of fuel pressure (i think you must add an extra bar for atmospheric) it must be the injectors. If you had a vac leak you would have rough idle and probably throw a fault code.
Your injector duty cycle is still too high for the 550's.
Having a look back on the usrt website it can be seen that Genesis also supply 315 and 380cc in black, there are suble differences though in the O ring colour and the angle and shape of the wiring connector. You should be able to identify your injector from exploding these images. If it transpires you have been given the wrong injector again, send them back for a refund and buy from someone else such as backdraft.
Your injector duty cycle is still too high for the 550's.
Having a look back on the usrt website it can be seen that Genesis also supply 315 and 380cc in black, there are suble differences though in the O ring colour and the angle and shape of the wiring connector. You should be able to identify your injector from exploding these images. If it transpires you have been given the wrong injector again, send them back for a refund and buy from someone else such as backdraft.
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You're good at Reading my mind you've done it in the past. I've just found a gauge on fleabay for £10, I need to know the pressure is good. There's only four things that it can be - small injectors, bad pressure from pump, clogged filter (new), or FPR.
Why would genesis scrub a number out. They don't use a Bosch injector do they???
Why would genesis scrub a number out. They don't use a Bosch injector do they???
I can't seem to find a hint of Genesis online - only referenced by USRT as a manufacturer......
That's where I've got to too Dave
you would've thought we couldve found something about them somewhere.
John is taking his out next week. Maybe he can shed some light on it.
you would've thought we couldve found something about them somewhere.
John is taking his out next week. Maybe he can shed some light on it.
Can you not send them back and get refunded and then purcase them from elsewhere? Are these not brand new injectors that come in a nice sealed box? Sounds like you just getting abag full of them.
Ill have a look when I'm on my laptop, Carl....well spotted!
If they are wrong then somebody needs sacking.
Yarp, in a bag Nick
They are keen for me to send the old ones back, it makes you wonder if I have someone elses now.
Just had a thought (remembered)
the long term trim is now -3%.... How can it be lean but showing rich. These injectors must be bigger than the 380cc as they were running at 25%??
Food for thought? Points to pump?
the long term trim is now -3%.... How can it be lean but showing rich. These injectors must be bigger than the 380cc as they were running at 25%??
Food for thought? Points to pump?
Yes, everything says you should have a positive long-term trim.
I can't see why you think it points to pump though.
If the previous 380s ran at 25% and it's now @-3% is it leaning out through pressure. I suppose it should still show positive though. I'll get my coat 
after the 25 mile drive home last night.
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Tuesday 24 November 2009 18:20:51
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0001
Group A: '002 Group B: '032
RPM Load Inj. On Time Mass Flow Lambda Lambda
TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min % ms g/s STAMP % %
0.4 760 15.8 1.7 2.31 0.8 5.8 -3.9
1.21 760 15.8 1.7 2.31 1.61 5.8 -3.9
2.01 760 15.8 1.7 2.31 2.41 5.8 -3.9
2.81 760 15.8 1.7 2.31 3.21 5.8 -3.9I thought this when you said your first once turned up in a bag. Its not good.
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When I got mine new from USRT, they weren't boxed, just in individual mini-bubblewrap sleeves.
Aaron
Assuming my injector spacers hve arrived from RMR when I get home tomorrow, I can swap my injectors out at the weekend, and post you 4 (plus 1 spare) 550cc genesis injectors originally fom usrt.
You can have them for a ton (including connectors), and send your suspect ones back to your supplier. At least then you know it's not the injectors.
In the meantime, it looks a lot better than it did, so just don't drive it too hard. In my mind, any trims of + or - 5% aren't bad. Fuel density varies by a few percent throughout the year.
Your long term multiplacative is taking fuel out, yet your injector on time is too high at the top end. This suurgests fuel pressure (flow issues). It's taking fuel out under low boost/ cruise. I bet if you go and cane the nuts of it for 10 mins it'll go positive, but you need a mighty clear road for that.
Log it, and go cane it for a while. Log 003 at the same time, so you can see how it moves under high rev, high boost driving
Assuming my injector spacers hve arrived from RMR when I get home tomorrow, I can swap my injectors out at the weekend, and post you 4 (plus 1 spare) 550cc genesis injectors originally fom usrt.
You can have them for a ton (including connectors), and send your suspect ones back to your supplier. At least then you know it's not the injectors.
In the meantime, it looks a lot better than it did, so just don't drive it too hard. In my mind, any trims of + or - 5% aren't bad. Fuel density varies by a few percent throughout the year.
Your long term multiplacative is taking fuel out, yet your injector on time is too high at the top end. This suurgests fuel pressure (flow issues). It's taking fuel out under low boost/ cruise. I bet if you go and cane the nuts of it for 10 mins it'll go positive, but you need a mighty clear road for that.
Log it, and go cane it for a while. Log 003 at the same time, so you can see how it moves under high rev, high boost driving
Hi John.
Thank you for the offer, i may take you up on it. ive had a look again today and changed the FPR (again)... the injectors do look right im just confused about the scrubbed numbers.
the car is much better but it seems unable to better a 0.75 Lambda factor..
its a vast improvement... im still lacking but it really is requesting alot isnt it?
Thank you for the offer, i may take you up on it. ive had a look again today and changed the FPR (again)... the injectors do look right im just confused about the scrubbed numbers.
the car is much better but it seems unable to better a 0.75 Lambda factor..
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Wednesday 25 November 2009 21:57:23
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0001
Group A: '002 Group B: '031
RPM Load Inj. On Time Mass Flow Lambda Factor Lambda Factor
TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min % ms g/s STAMP
23.57 3440 64.7 4.42 45.47 23.17 0.977 0.992 12.67066667
24.37 3520 65.4 4.42 44.44 23.97 1 0.992 12.96533333
25.19 3560 70.7 4.76 48.67 24.77 0.992 0.992 14.12133333
25.99 3600 76.7 5.44 54.64 25.59 0.984 0.977 16.32
26.79 3680 75.2 5.1 51.53 26.39 0.953 0.961 15.64
27.59 3760 74.4 5.1 53.31 27.19 0.961 0.961 15.98
28.4 3840 84.2 6.12 64.31 28 0.945 0.945 19.584
29.2 3960 103.8 7.82 83.56 28.8 0.922 0.93 25.806
30 4200 191.7 15.64 175.44 29.6 0.821 0.821 54.74
30.82 4640 191.7 20.06 217.58 30.4 0.821 0.797 77.56533333
31.62 4960 191.7 19.72 213.81 31.22 0.774 0.797 81.50933333
32.42 5280 191.7 20.4 225.72 32.02 0.75 0.665 89.76
33.22 5600 191.7 20.4 235.94 32.82 0.75 0.68 95.2
34.04 5880 191.7 19.38 244.92 33.64 0.75 0.696 94.962
34.84 6160 191.7 18.36 251.06 34.44 0.75 0.68 94.248
35.64 6360 191.7 18.36 260.86 35.25 0.75 0.727 97.308
36.45 6600 191.7 19.04 260.86 36.05 0.75 0.688 104.72
37.25 6800 191.7 18.02 264.47 36.85 0.75 0.704 102.1133333its a vast improvement... im still lacking but it really is requesting alot isnt it?
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