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My only concern is with this opposed to a proper kit is that the MAF isn't braced. The MAF is quite sensitive to vibration and knocks so might lead to premature failure. Might be worth making up a bracket?
My the bracket on the RamAir on my Mk3 Cupra actually broke... I cable tied it down untilI could fix it.
My the bracket on the RamAir on my Mk3 Cupra actually broke... I cable tied it down untilI could fix it.
people i have spoke to jetex and due to high demand on these filters they have sold out and have ordered a batch to come in the end of next week just to let you all know
cheers
cheers
I thought about this myself. As it is the weight of the airfilter is only supported by the TIP, although it is very unlikely the worse case scenario is that if you go over too many bumps/speed humps/etc you could potentially pull the TIP away from the turbo bringing with it a whole world of pain and suffering which we all would do best to avoid. I'm going to make some sort of support today.
I tried to organise a group buy for THS engine mounts ages ago and the Mods were'nt interested as THS are not forum sponsors. Unfortunately, neither are Jetex.
Where's your logs guys, come on.
I use cable & pipe bandit to secure it. (metal pvc coated straping with holes)
I use cable & pipe bandit to secure it. (metal pvc coated straping with holes)
Just as a temporary measure I've tie wrapped the end of the filter to the battery cover.
Not the best pics but there you go, it's actually quite solid but I intend to extend the section
after the MAF to centralize the filter and bring it closer to the wing so it'll do for now.
Tried to do some logs earlier on but got stuck in a massive traffic jam as my 'Test Track'
was closed in both directions. On nights tonight so I might try to do some in the morning
while the roads are clear.
Not the best pics but there you go, it's actually quite solid but I intend to extend the section
after the MAF to centralize the filter and bring it closer to the wing so it'll do for now.
Tried to do some logs earlier on but got stuck in a massive traffic jam as my 'Test Track'
was closed in both directions. On nights tonight so I might try to do some in the morning
while the roads are clear.
paul-murphys
efr 6758 here i come
how do you go about cleaning these? i have a metal pipersross mesh filter at min but these look bigger so think will go for one of these. are they to be oiled like K an N or like the metal filter an not oiled?
paul-murphys
efr 6758 here i come
Ok, some Vag-Com logs. All done in 4th gear.
The following three logs were from my PREVIOUS induction set up;
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And these three are with the JETEX set up.
The previous set up shows a maximum mass flow of 194.17g/s,
The Jetex set up shows a maximum mass flow of 202g/s, a gain of 7.83g/s and if I'm correct
a potential power gain of just over 10 BHP.
I'm still getting to grips with Vag-Com so any comments or help is appreciated.
The following three logs were from my PREVIOUS induction set up;
Code:
Wednesday 21 October 2009 10:37:03
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '003 Group B: '020 Group C: Not Running
RPM Mass Flow Load Ign. Timing Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min g/s % °BTDC STAMP CF CF CF CF STAMP
0 2160 34.11 73.3 22.5 0.4 0 0 0 0
0.91 2320 51.47 96.5 15.8 1.41 0 0 0 0
1.81 2520 73.36 100 10.5 2.21 0 0 0 0
2.61 2800 104.78 100 0 3.02 0 0 0 0
3.42 3080 108.08 100 1.5 3.82 0 0 0 0
4.32 3440 115.67 100 4.5 4.72 0 0 0 0
5.13 3720 128.69 100 6.8 5.63 0 0 0 0
6.03 4080 140.11 100 9.8 6.54 0 0 0 0
7.04 4440 152.81 100 12 7.44 0 0 0 0
7.84 4720 157.78 100 12.8 8.25 0 0 0 0
8.75 5000 172.17 100 14.3 9.15 0 0 0 0
9.55 5280 179.75 100 14.3 9.95 0 0 0 0
10.37 5560 186.94 100 14.3 10.86 0 0 0 0
11.28 5800 187.86 100 15 11.66 0 0 0 0
12.06 6000 191.53 100 15 12.48 0 0 0 0
12.88 6200 192.44 99.6 15.8 13.28 0 0 0 3
13.69 6400 192.14 98.4 16.5 14.17 0 3 3 3
14.59 6600 193.08 100 15.8 14.99 0 3 6 3
15.39 6760 194.17 98 15.8 15.9 0 2.3 6 2.3
16.4 6800 29.25 14.9 1.5 16.8 0 0 0 0
17.2 5480 11.92 9.8 5.3 17.6 0 0 0 0
18 5400 14.31 10.2 4.5 18.4 0 0 0 0
18.81 5280 13.31 9.8 5.3 19.21 0 0 0 0
Code:
Wednesday 21 October 2009 10:51:05
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '115 Group B: '031 Group C: Not Running
RPM Load Absolute Pres. Absolute Pres. Lambda Factor Lambda Factor Bin. Bits Bin. Bits
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min % mbar mbar STAMP STAMP
0 1760 13.5 970 990 0.42 1.991 0.945
0.93 1800 79.7 2170 1040 1.41 0.961 0.961
1.82 1960 92.5 2240 1200 2.33 0.953 0.953
2.73 2160 108.3 2320 1360 3.13 0.953 0.953
3.63 2360 129.3 2230 1570 4.03 0.945 0.938
4.45 2600 151.9 2150 1850 4.94 0.899 0.883
5.34 2880 184.2 2170 2230 5.74 0.844 0.86
6.16 3160 182 2170 2160 6.65 0.844 0.844
7.05 3480 180.5 2190 2170 7.45 0.852 0.844
7.85 3760 178.2 2190 2200 8.27 0.844 0.844
8.77 4080 179.7 2200 2170 9.17 0.836 0.836
9.57 4360 181.2 2200 2190 9.97 0.828 0.836
10.38 4640 180.5 2180 2170 10.78 0.828 0.836
11.28 4920 178.2 2180 2160 11.79 0.828 0.836
12.29 5280 179.7 2230 2180 12.68 0.821 0.836
13.2 5520 178.2 2290 2150 13.6 0.813 0.836
14 5720 172.2 2300 2090 14.4 0.844 0.836
14.8 5920 165.4 2290 2090 15.2 0.813 0.836
15.6 6120 160.9 2250 2090 16.01 0.828 0.836
16.41 6280 158.6 2180 2090 16.81 0.828 0.836
17.31 6440 150.4 2120 2070 17.71 0.828 0.836
18.12 6600 154.1 2030 2020 18.52 0.844 0.836
18.94 6720 152.6 1960 2010 19.42 0.821 0.836
19.84 6840 139.8 1920 1930 20.24 0.821 0.836
20.64 6960 141.4 1930 1890 21.04 0.836 0.836
21.45 6960 12 970 1600 21.95 0.93 0.93
22.44 6720 12 970 1070 22.84 1.991 1.047
23.24 6560 12 970 1040 23.64 1.991 1.047
24.06 6400 12 970 1030 24.46 1.991 1.047
24.86 6280 12 970 1030 25.26 1.991 1.047
25.66 6120 12.8 970 1020 26.17 1.991 1.047
26.57 5960 12.8 970 1020 26.97 1.991 1.047
Code:
Wednesday 21 October 2009 10:53:48
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '118 Group B: '032 Group C: Not Running
RPM Temperature Load Absolute Pres. Lambda Lambda Bin. Bits Bin. Bits
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min °C % mbar STAMP % % STAMP
0 1960 33 0 990 0.51 0.6 -9.4
1.01 2040 32 95.3 1060 1.41 0.6 -9.4
1.81 2240 30 95.3 1290 2.22 0.6 -9.4
2.62 2480 27 95.3 1590 3.02 0.6 -9.4
3.44 2760 27 95.3 1990 3.84 0.6 -9.4
4.24 3040 26 78 2230 4.64 0.6 -9.4
5.04 3400 25 78.8 2180 5.44 0.6 -9.4
5.84 3720 25 79.6 2190 6.25 0.6 -9.4
6.75 4120 26 79.6 2200 7.15 0.6 -9.4
7.55 4440 27 81.6 2200 7.95 0.6 -9.4
8.37 4760 28 82 2180 8.77 0.6 -9.4
9.26 5120 30 86.7 2160 9.66 0.6 -9.4
10.06 5400 32 95.3 2150 10.48 0.6 -9.4
10.97 5720 33 95.3 2100 11.37 0.6 -9.4
11.77 5960 35 95.3 2110 12.19 0.6 -9.4
12.59 6200 37 95.3 2060 13.09 0.6 -9.4
13.49 6440 39 95.3 2080 13.89 0.6 -9.4
14.3 6640 39 91.8 2040 14.81 0.6 -9.4
15.31 6840 42 82.4 2020 15.71 0.6 -9.4
16.22 6600 42 0 1580 16.62 0.6 -9.4
17 5560 39 0 1090 17.4 0.6 -9.4
17.82 5480 39 0 1020 18.22 0.6 -9.4
18.62 5360 39 0 1010 19.02 0.6 -9.4
19.42 5280 38 0 1000 19.82 0.6 -9.4
20.22 5200 37 0 1000 20.64 0.6 -9.4And these three are with the JETEX set up.
Code:
Sunday 15 November 2009 06:48:11
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '003 Group B: '020 Group C: Not Running
RPM Mass Flow Load Ign. Timing Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min g/s % °BTDC STAMP CF CF CF CF STAMP
636.31 1720 11.92 8.6 30.8 636.7 0 0 0 0
637.1 1800 31.39 81.6 18 637.52 0 0 0 0
637.92 1920 38.22 87.8 15 638.42 0 0 0 0
638.93 2160 51.19 92.5 11.3 639.33 0 0 0 0
639.73 2360 69.31 97.3 6 640.13 0 0 0 0
640.53 2640 95.61 100 0 641.04 0 0 0 0
641.44 2920 102.86 100 0 641.84 0 0 0 0
642.24 3240 112.06 100 4.5 642.64 0 0 0 0
643.04 3560 125.31 100 6 643.44 0 0 0 0
643.86 3840 133.06 100 7.5 644.35 0 0 0 0
644.77 4160 144.69 100 10.5 645.26 0 0 0 0
645.76 4520 158 100 12.8 646.16 0 0 0 0
646.56 4800 163.64 100 12.8 646.98 0 0 0 0
647.47 5120 174.89 100 14.3 647.87 0 0 0 0
648.29 5360 188.78 100 14.3 648.69 0 0 0 0
649.09 5600 194.94 100 14.3 649.49 0 0 0 0
649.89 5840 196.81 100 14.3 650.3 0 0 0 0
650.7 6040 197.47 100 16.5 651.1 0 0 0 0
651.5 6200 200.94 100 17.3 651.9 0 0 0 0
652.3 6400 201.03 99.2 19.5 652.7 0 0 0 3
653.12 6520 202 99.6 19.5 653.52 0 0 3 3
653.92 6680 193.78 98 16.5 654.32 0 3 3 2.3
654.72 6760 184.61 99.6 17.3 655.12 0 3 2.3 2.3
Code:
Sunday 15 November 2009 06:28:11
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '115 Group B: '031 Group C: Not Running
RPM Load Absolute Pres. Absolute Pres. Lambda Factor Lambda Factor Bin. Bits Bin. Bits
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min % mbar mbar STAMP STAMP
0 2160 15 980 1010 0.36 0.836 1
0.76 2240 92.5 2250 1130 1.16 0.953 0.953
1.56 2440 122.6 2140 1480 2.07 0.93 0.914
2.47 2680 164.7 2130 2000 2.87 0.899 0.875
3.27 3000 181.2 2120 2130 3.67 0.86 0.852
4.07 3280 178.2 2140 2120 4.49 0.844 0.844
4.98 3600 178.2 2160 2110 5.38 0.852 0.844
5.89 3920 183.5 2150 2130 6.39 0.86 0.844
6.9 4280 180.5 2170 2170 7.3 0.828 0.836
7.7 4560 182.7 2170 2160 8.1 0.821 0.836
8.5 4800 175.9 2150 2140 8.9 0.836 0.836
9.3 5080 175.2 2170 2160 9.72 0.821 0.836
10.21 5320 185 2230 2180 10.61 0.828 0.836
11.03 5600 187.2 2270 2220 11.41 0.828 0.836
11.83 5800 174.4 2270 2200 12.23 0.828 0.836
12.63 6000 177.4 2240 2130 13.04 0.813 0.836
13.44 6160 180.5 2190 2120 13.94 0.836 0.836
14.34 6360 169.2 2130 2070 14.76 0.828 0.836
15.25 6520 162.4 2060 2130 15.64 0.821 0.836
16.05 6680 153.4 1990 2180 16.45 0.813 0.836
Code:
Sunday 15 November 2009 06:32:12
1ML 906 032 A 1.8l R4/5VT 0002
Group A: '118 Group B: '032 Group C: Not Running
RPM Temperature Load Absolute Pres. Lambda Lambda Bin. Bits Bin. Bits
TIME TIME TIME
MARKER STAMP /min °C % mbar STAMP % % STAMP
0 1760 21 0 1000 0.43 0.2 -8.6
0.83 1920 21 95.3 1100 1.32 0.2 -8.6
1.74 2120 20 95.3 1320 2.14 0.2 -8.6
2.54 2360 18 95.3 1590 2.94 0.2 -8.6
3.34 2640 18 85.1 2000 3.74 0.2 -8.6
4.15 3000 18 76.9 2130 4.55 0.2 -8.6
4.95 3320 18 78 2140 5.35 0.2 -8.6
5.75 3680 18 78.8 2160 6.15 0.2 -7.8
6.57 4000 18 79.2 2160 6.97 0.2 -7.8
7.47 4400 20 79.6 2170 7.87 0.2 -7.8
8.27 4720 21 81.2 2110 8.68 0.2 -7.8
9.18 5080 22 83.9 2120 9.58 0.2 -7.8
9.98 5360 24 88.2 2200 10.38 0.2 -7.8
10.79 5640 25 95.3 2180 11.29 0.2 -7.8
11.71 5920 27 95.3 2150 12.2 0.2 -7.8
12.6 6200 30 95.3 2160 13 0.2 -7.8
13.51 6440 32 93.7 2160 13.91 0.2 -7.8
14.31 6600 33 83.5 2240 14.71 0.2 -7.8
15.13 6760 34 74.9 2000 15.62 0.2 -7.8The previous set up shows a maximum mass flow of 194.17g/s,
The Jetex set up shows a maximum mass flow of 202g/s, a gain of 7.83g/s and if I'm correct
a potential power gain of just over 10 BHP.
I'm still getting to grips with Vag-Com so any comments or help is appreciated.
I'm afraid I'm still with the tie wrap jobbie as pictured in post 92, lol. I want to put a bit of an
extention in before I fit something permanent but it's fine for now.
(Where would British Industry be if all the tie wraps, welding rods and bits of tape all broke at the same time??)
I'm afraid I'm still with the tie wrap jobbie as pictured in post 92, lol. I want to put a bit of an
extention in before I fit something permanent but it's fine for now.
(Where would British Industry be if all the tie wraps, welding rods and bits of tape all broke at the same time??)
Yeah that's what i've been thinking for mine. Probably only need a bit of silicone pipe, about 2-3 inches long, should put it right next to the wing. Is there anywhere suitable to attach a support near the wing? Can't say i've looked since i bought mine
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