R0b3r
Guest
bonnet not fallen on my head still couple of years on peeps lol, people are jealous at meets lol
awsome
thank you so much for this i really hate these metal bar holders this is a brilliant mod and pretty simple to do
thank you so much for this i really hate these metal bar holders this is a brilliant mod and pretty simple to do
Could some of you guys have a look at my welcome thread as I've asked a few questions on it thank you
Sent from my XT890 using Tapatalk
Sent from my XT890 using Tapatalk
Samuel.perkins
Guest
Cheers for this pabs, great guide! It has given me some inspiration to make my own brackets up and give it ago!
Also noticed you are from Basingstoke, small world, do you work at an engineering company around here then? I work at hound mills in an engineering firm. Have to go to a meet soon if there is any some when, when my cars back on the road
Be cool to check those struts out
Edit: Ah sorry man, saw that you are selling up on your readers ride. Sick car though mate, will enjoy reading through your thread.
Also noticed you are from Basingstoke, small world, do you work at an engineering company around here then? I work at hound mills in an engineering firm. Have to go to a meet soon if there is any some when, when my cars back on the road
Be cool to check those struts out Edit: Ah sorry man, saw that you are selling up on your readers ride. Sick car though mate, will enjoy reading through your thread.
Last edited:
Sorry mate, car is up for sale and likely to be sold very soon. I won't be in a SEAT for much longer I don't work in engineering but in IT - but I dabble in the mechanical stuff and have a lot of the tools at my disposal as my dad has all the tools I could need (and the skills to use them properly)
I don't work in engineering but in IT - but I dabble in the mechanical stuff and have a lot of the tools at my disposal as my dad has all the tools I could need (and the skills to use them properly)I literally just saw on your readers ride you were selling up Well best of luck mate, anyone would be stupid not to buy that, fine example. Gutted I never saw it driving around, never saw a black cupra around Basingstoke on your travels have you? That'll be mine . Don't seem to see many of them around here. Are you staying VAG?
Ah fair enough mate! Sounds like you know what you are doing. If you ever go to any car meets locally, let me know, be good to meet other car enthusiasts. Cheers.
Well best of luck mate, anyone would be stupid not to buy that, fine example. Gutted I never saw it driving around, never saw a black cupra around Basingstoke on your travels have you? That'll be mine . Don't seem to see many of them around here. Are you staying VAG?Ah fair enough mate! Sounds like you know what you are doing. If you ever go to any car meets locally, let me know, be good to meet other car enthusiasts. Cheers.
Seen a few cupras around here but mainly a yellow one I will miss the beeza but I need a 5-door now - will hopefully be staying in the VAG group tho
I will miss the beeza but I need a 5-door now - will hopefully be staying in the VAG group tho G.wiz29
Guest
hey damo would you be interested in making me some brackets up please I would pay as its not my field of expertise, would be much appreciated.
also I know this isn't anything to do with bonnet strut but does anyone know where you can get head light protective covers from ?
also I know this isn't anything to do with bonnet strut but does anyone know where you can get head light protective covers from ?
Last edited by a moderator:
Mk4 Ibiza Bonnet Lifters
Well folks, I've been keeping it on the quiet up until now, as I wanted to ensure I could pull it off, but now I'm happy with the finished product, it's time to show you all my hard work!
So, as you're probably aware, the mk4 ibizas were never lucky enough to come with the hydraulic bonnet lifters as found on many other VAG cars like the Golf/Leon, so I went about designing some.
Unfortunately the Ibiza doesn't have any decent mounting points on the bonnet itself, so it required a bit custom work to knock-up a bracket.
My key area of concern was that I didn't want to irriversibly modify ANYTHING on the car. This meant no drilling or cutting.
I also wanted to keep to a totally OEM look, so that unless you really knew about the car, you'd assume it came like it from the factory.
Component List
2 x custom made Aluminium brackets
2 x Variable force Hydralic/Gas struts (www.strutsdirect.co.uk) Part Number #SD01-150 - approx £40
4 x strut ball-ends (M6 thread) - (www.strutsdirect.co.uk) - approx £5
4 x ball-head screw (M6 thread) - (www.strutsdirect.co.uk) - approx £5
1 x spray can of paint. (to match car colour) - approx £8 (mine was free)
Update: Not 100% sure on part number for ball-ends, but believe it is #SBJ4, 30mm long giving total length of strut =400mm.
Tools required
Allen Key for strut gas-release (supplied with struts)
Adjustable Spanner (Open)
14mm Socket
Design
To design this, I went back to my A-level Mechanical Maths lessons, in order to work out the strut specifications and force required to keep the bonnet open. Here are some assumptions that I had to make:
Bonnet weight: 15kg
Force Calculation Diagrams: http://www.solidcomponents.com/file...files/doc/final_stabilus_techn._info_a4_e.pdf
Force equation used: F1 = [(G x D)/b x n] x 13 (See url for more info)
Calculation Results: Approx 600N total
I opted for 2 struts purely for cosmetic reasons (symmetrical) and I also feel it supports both sides of the bonnet evenly. This is also a common design for aftermarket bonnet lifters. This also reduced the required force per strut by half, so max of 300N each. The gas struts purchased came at 400N each, so easily covered my requirements.
Unfortunately I found several equations that all gave different results - so I took an approximate average, ensured I could easily cover that force, and purchased components accordingly.
Just as an FYI - I checked similar vehicles and got measurements/forces from Spanny (thanks matey!!)
Lupo = 592mm + 280n
Leon = 664mm + 330n
Bora = 655mm + 350n
mk4 golf = 592mm and 350n
All of which you can see are considerably longer than my 400mm struts. (End to End, including ball-ends)
*****************************
Wing Mount
I found a 6mm bolt in each wing of the car, which was at a good distance from the bonnet hinge, and so here, I simply replace the bolt with one of my ball-head screws (and a washer)
Middle Section
Here you see the foam insert which is used to direct any rain water down the skuttle panel, rather than the wing of the car.
As my struts were positioned down the wings, I needed to cut away a section on these to make room for the struts when the bonnet was closed. I have checked, and to replace these with new foam inserts, it'd cost about £4, so I wasn't too worried about replacing
these if I ever needed to.
Bonnet Mount
This here is the custom bracket, which is made from high-grade aluminium. It has 2 M8 holes for the standard bonnet bolts, and the N/S also has an additional M8 hole for the plastic clip that holds the washer-fluid hose in place.
The hole for the ball-head screw is a threaded M6 hole, and the screw is held in with locktite. Mounting this is simple - I removed the bolts on the bonnet hinge, put the bracket in place, and then bolted it all together again.
I am a little concerned that I might need longer bolts as I'm not sure how much of the thread is actually securing the bonnet, but it is quite tight, so for now, I'm happy.
Putting it all together
Self explanatory bit really - but a few pointers:
The strut was put on in this orientation as it is recommended by the manufacturers to be mounted this way. This ensures that the oil lubricates the strut properly, and also prevents water ingress through the rubber seal where the plunger enters the main body.
The ball-end on the piston of each strut was done up tightly, and then the piston was rotated through 90 degrees to be able to mount onto my brackets (different orientation at each end)
Spring clips are put onto each ball-joint once connected to stop them popping off.
On each strut, there is a small grub screw that is used to bleed the gas out of the strut, reducing the pressure contained within.
These struts come shipped at max pressure (400N) which is too much for this purpose, so I bled around 10 very short bursts (less than 1/2 second each) until the pressure was about right. I am unable to find out the force now produced, but it could be measured by the manufacturer if required.
So, there you have it - feel free to comment on this - hopefully some of you might find all the research and hard work I've put into this useful!
Held wide open:
Held at about 3/4 open under it's own weight:
i know its old, but what is the chance that anyone have the photos of the measurements and brackets?
Similar threads
