Heads up on MIB2 map update

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Just a quick heads up for anyone planning to update their MIB2 maps.

The latest mapping on the Seat update portal (https://www.seat.co.uk/owners/about-my-car/map-updates/leon-6p0) is the 2023/2024 version 2010.

However, if you go onto the Volkswagen update portal, (https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/en/download/#download) the later 2024/2025 version 2210 is available.

I've downloaded this version this evening, and after swapping the Overall.NDS from the original working maps into the new 2210 as documented in other threads, I can confirm that the 2210 version is working 100% in the Seat MIB2 (mines a 2019 Leon).

Hope this info helps someone get the latest available maps.
 

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Just a quick heads up for anyone planning to update their MIB2 maps.

The latest mapping on the Seat update portal (https://www.seat.co.uk/owners/about-my-car/map-updates/leon-6p0) is the 2023/2024 version 2010.

However, if you go onto the Volkswagen update portal, (https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/en/download/#download) the later 2024/2025 version 2210 is available.

I've downloaded this version this evening, and after swapping the Overall.NDS from the original working maps into the new 2210 as documented in other threads, I can confirm that the 2210 version is working 100% in the Seat MIB2 (mines a 2019 Leon).

Hope this info helps someone get the latest available maps.
You must have missed it, @Tell posted about this, with links, in late March. :)
 

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Oh yes we found this months ago. There is a network of sniffers that find these files before they go up on the websites. Like a library, the books come in but wait about in the back of library before they get issued. In this case with a web link to the file server. It's the file servers that get examined and posted up.

The resource is here which sits off the side of the long running discussion thread:


I index into the latest map links on the discussion thread. Currently we have the unreleased June 2024 mib2 high release which I've been using for months now, but has shifted to its VW release form, but not wrapped in a web page yet.

The mib2 standard one we are talking about is the late November 2023 release. It waits to be seen whether they will release anything in June. Probably not. Nothing sniffed out so far. They will probably knock it back to a November release.

For those with mib3 and out of connect services contract I have posted those links up on the Leon 4 side. Nothing sniffed out on the June release for that although Skoda have republished a very old file as new. Ignoring that. Generally if you look at Skoda and Seat sites they are lagging behind VW and those in the know are ahead of VW with files off the file server. Russian sites contain Audi files. They spill on too mibsolution.one site.

So on the discussion board on the related link quite a few people have now updated their mib1 infotainment units too the 2023 maps which isn't bad considering that doing these updates for mib1 was problematic in the past. With the card based systems it's imperative to take a copy of the map file before deleting it. You need that for the mib2 workaround covered in the resource and to take info off for mib1. The number of times people loose that is remarkable. Backup. In the resource a recover procedure is covered for mib2 standard. Mib1 you are looking to get a copy off someone else as a life saver. The old method for mib1.

Mapcare on mib2 was abandoned in the final year of its life 2019 which is why some people manage to do these updates by buying a card or just doing the download without the overall.nds workaround. Mib2 high you alter the navigation FeCs to long life by a tool box and 1447AIO firmware. East Yorkshire Retrofit will do it for you if you don't want to do DIY. Quite a few people have updated their very old mib2 highs to 1447AIO. They will also do your mib1 maps. Mib2 standard as well by altering the navigation FeCs on that although the workaround is easy enough.

For those missing TMC and want it, see the resource linked above and out to the links. Mib2 high it's available with minor recoding to put it on Inrix, works on all map releases. Mib2 standard you need to use 3 year old maps and modified modules. No coding on those units. TMC has its uses. Inrix seems better than the old Trafficmaster provider.
 
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Thanks for the replies, hadn't seen the info was already there.
@Tell - can you just confirm that the TMC fix can't yet be used on the newest maps? Thanks
Correct not on the new mib2 standard. They changed the map provider three years ago from Here Maps to TomTom. Here Maps were engineered to work across TMC providers, TomTom implementation wasn't. Here Maps were better engineered for their client base. Hence why it's easy to fix it to work with the mib2 high (Seat Plus). All to do with the addressable segments being built into the maps, so I'm told. No addressable segments and icons for that TMC provider, and it's impossible. That was by the knowledgable person who did the implementation on the old maps. The Ozzies got there before us by succeeding to put VAG import cars onto their own TMC provider. The UK implementation avoids using the mib2 standard toolbox where the person wrote the code to avoid the toolbox. It had to be washed through the toolbox without.

You can always use a second card and swap between the three-year-old maps for TMC and the latest maps with TMC. I've settled on old maps with TMC on the mib2 standard for the minute. Depends on how much you get annoyed by missing roads.
 
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Is that an official issue? VW portal still giving v19 2210 maps on all downloads. Thanks
That just normal practice. They get put in a filestore then the web page gets adjusted to pick it up. Probably after all the world variants are done. Just needs to be tested. Afraid I use the old maps to get TMC which I find more useful than uptodate maps. Inrix is much better populated than Traffic Master ever was.

Mod for TMC Inrix in the UK is linked towards the bottom of

 

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That just normal practice. They get put in a filestore then the web page gets adjusted to pick it up. Probably after all the world variants are done. Just needs to be tested. Afraid I use the old maps to get TMC which I find more useful than uptodate maps. Inrix is much better populated than Traffic Master ever was.
Thanks, gonna be a bit of a late one now as I'm downloading right now to try it!

@Tell - while I'm on - is MirrorLink now dead??? I was hoping for an app to mirror the VAGDPF app onto the car screen, but the apps on playstore don't seem to want to connect to the car. Using Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus. Thanks
 

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Thanks, gonna be a bit of a late one now as I'm downloading right now to try it!

@Tell - while I'm on - is MirrorLink now dead??? I was hoping for an app to mirror the VAGDPF app onto the car screen, but the apps on playstore don't seem to want to connect to the car. Using Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus. Thanks
Think you'll find MirrorLink got buried a long time ago. Think you will be in the domain of mods and hacks to Android. Developers menu may be...

Quick Google there is this:


Probably others. The reigns were taken up by others after Google abandoned it may be.

I can't say I follow the subject. Android Auto took over. Then there were hacks to that to get MirrorLink working on it after it got abandoned. How I remember it.
 
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Thanks, I can't find any app that will mirror VAGDPF, certainly nothing on Android Auto - which I don't use anyway because having Android Auto active on the phone disabled all custom ringtones and notifications to a single default
 

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I suspect they haven't been found yet. But I've feed it into MartiniB. There are always the hacks to get the file size down for all off Europe. I did pass on last time round somebody's hack but it's always likely to catch up with you as map size increases. The 32gb card is fine... will test it out on that tomorrow other than you'll have to wait unless creative edit using last year's file name characters does it.
 
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I suspect they haven't been found yet. But I've feed it into MartiniB. There are always the hacks to get the file size down for all off Europe. I did pass on last time round somebody's hack but it's always likely to catch up with you as map size increases. The 32gb card is fine... will test it out on that tomorrow other than you'll have to wait unless creative edit using last year's file name characters does it.
Would that be a 32GB genuine VAG card? Or was the genuine card thing only for MIB1?
 

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No any genuine 32gb VAG card that can say Seat, Skoda or VW. All interchangeable on CID. It's just knows it's a VAG map card.

Anyhow, I did find my last bit of edit advise which may not work now:


People who like to fit things on postage stamps.
 

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And even with the overall.nds workaround, it isn't recognised by the nav unit..... back to the older maps for now

It's showing an error on two files for file length that can't be written to the card as in screenshots, any ideas?
 

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Will have a look in the morning to see whether they have changed their map provider to Here Maps, then you'd get it back, with TomTom you don't, it's hardwired onto Traffic Master. It's set up for a suite of TMC providers and Traffic Master doesn't broadcast in the UK now. It's the suite it's fixed on, mib2 high it's kitted out for Inrix by changing the providern group, TomTom implementation for the mib2 standard it isn't. Limited implementation of TMC on the mib2 standard when they moved to TomTom from HereMaps. They just did the bear minimum. 15 to 14 if you have mib1 or mib2 high on a Seat for Inrix.
 
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