Basically 233bhp and 250lbs ft. 17bhp and 20lbs ft required. It revs to the redline a lot quicker than the k03 by far it feels.
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I'm sure there plenty to come yet,you don't have to do it all at once or you will get bored with it/used to it too quick .Take your time and sort it properly it will be worth it Rome was not built in a day.Well done for taking the leap though.
Andy
Andy
Shock_Xe
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Originally posted by ANDY BLUNT
I'm sure there plenty to come yet,you don't have to do it all at once or you will get bored with it/used to it too quick .Take your time and sort it properly it will be worth it Rome was not built in a day.Well done for taking the leap though.
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Originally posted by Saul
manifold, downpipe and head is where the flow restrictions are on the ibiza.
sorts these and the E-05 sings (look at Wilko's golf4 265bhp unmapped)
As with N/A cars the head is the critical part. I'd argue that the problems experienced with the manifold/turbine/DP/CAT are a consequence of the restriction of the small port head compared with the large port head. The Ibiza head isn't bad as such (look at what Bills car did when first IHI'd @ 1 bar) but it's not as good as the Golfs for top end.
i.e. You have to run more boost on a small port than on a large port to achieve the same result. Think of it from the perspective of 'boost is bad' - you want to achieve your horsepower target using the minimum amount of boost necessary while keeping decent low & mid-range response (road cars only, track cars you can gear to compensate) avoiding compressor surge or turbine choke. Quite a conundrum, no?
My recommendation to anyone who wants to get the full top end potential out of the Ibiza is to do the large port head swap. Unfortunately, increasing the flow-rate (via head work) costs more than simply upping the boost but ultimately doesn't cause more problems than it solves.
Just for reference, my golfs got a small port head. Have you changed your injectors. On standard golf injectors with a 4 bar fpr, I had to wind the boost down a lot as the injectors were topping out.
The standard injectors on the golf hit 100% duty cycle at 240-250hp with a 4 bar fpr, so it could be what limited your car. Ask mike the question. I'm running injectors that are 50% bigger, so fueling is not right at the moment, but it allows me to run the e05 much harder at the top end than I could on standard injectors.
The standard injectors on the golf hit 100% duty cycle at 240-250hp with a 4 bar fpr, so it could be what limited your car. Ask mike the question. I'm running injectors that are 50% bigger, so fueling is not right at the moment, but it allows me to run the e05 much harder at the top end than I could on standard injectors.
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Well we will see exactly the difference a milltek cat and pipe make very soon as my Eo5 has arrived and will be fitted next week .
All iwill say is its at Jabba one day next week !!!
Figures will be posted up ASAP,
If it sees 245 bhp & 265lbft i will be more than happy ( Jabbas rr )
If i want to see 265 bhp i will just run it up on another RR which gives generous figures :laff:
PACE CC is gonna be a must when its available ,
Went out in Madmiles car tonight and first impressions are WOW .
Very smooth power delivery , useable power and very manic.
Red line comes round very quickly , more noticable in the higher gears ,definitely a big improvement over kkko3 chipped .
+40 bhp & + 20 lbft gotta make a difference,
as said previuosly still room for improvement :devil:
All iwill say is its at Jabba one day next week !!!
Figures will be posted up ASAP,
If it sees 245 bhp & 265lbft i will be more than happy ( Jabbas rr )
If i want to see 265 bhp i will just run it up on another RR which gives generous figures :laff:
PACE CC is gonna be a must when its available ,
Went out in Madmiles car tonight and first impressions are WOW .
Very smooth power delivery , useable power and very manic.
Red line comes round very quickly , more noticable in the higher gears ,definitely a big improvement over kkko3 chipped .
+40 bhp & + 20 lbft gotta make a difference,
as said previuosly still room for improvement :devil:
Heres hoping the sports cat and dp can free up another 8-10bhp and 10-20lbs ft. Time will tell. I think it did for those Leon R's using them at stealth i think.
Originally posted by Madmile
Heres hoping the sports cat and dp can free up another 8-10bhp and 10-20lbs ft. Time will tell. I think it did for those Leon R's using them at stealth i think. [/QUOTE
I'm sure it will m8 only time will tell
Yeah, that Golf had amazing midrange, but felt slightly lacking in top end to me, in comparison!!Originally posted by ANDY BLUNT
Whats the midrange like ,i thought Jons golf was mentalAndy
Still shifted though!! But, must... resist... the... urge... to... chip... mine...
What would be interesting, is if we could have an E05 showdown at Stealth or somewhere... I mention Stealth because I know of a Jabba'd LCR that Jabba quoted 284bhp on their rollers for, that got about 267bhp at Stealth... But either way, all the E05 motors on the same rollers on the same day - be good to see how they do on the different applications!
I reckon with the mods we are talking about for the ibiza e05 turbo, sports cat and downpipe, cat back exhaust and remap 240bhp to 250bhp max is all the ibiza is going to make with 250-270lbs ft max. Theres talk of a super kinetics ko4 making 280bhp+ @ the fly, but the bottom line is that its a ko4 and i cant see any k04 based turbo making that power on an ibiza safely even if it can make that kind of bhp, which i very much doubt. Anyone intrested in seeing some vid footage of my e05 vs Revo sps3 with dynatwist, full milltek system including sports cat and downpipe for comparrison. If people want to see it i will speak to Andy Dea and see how they go against each other. I am sure Andy will do it. Revo software is supposedly the most powerfull available 212bhp and 240-250lbs ft.
I've asked Mork to overlay the chipped LCR plots and mine from Sunday, so that you can decide whether Stealths RR is much 'happier' than Jabbas.
In the past there's been good correlation between stealth and Jabbas RR.
Once the cars been mapped, I will happily get it rr'd at Stealth and Jabba, on the same day if I can arrange it.
You have to bear in mind when doubting the figures, that the car made 250Hp and 302lbft on a K03S. It was the fastest MkIV at the gti festival at Santa Pod, the fastest at the Gti festival at York, and the second fastest MKIV at inters last year (only the Jabba golf beat me). Maybe the car's a freak, though I doubt it.
In the past there's been good correlation between stealth and Jabbas RR.
Once the cars been mapped, I will happily get it rr'd at Stealth and Jabba, on the same day if I can arrange it.
You have to bear in mind when doubting the figures, that the car made 250Hp and 302lbft on a K03S. It was the fastest MkIV at the gti festival at Santa Pod, the fastest at the Gti festival at York, and the second fastest MKIV at inters last year (only the Jabba golf beat me). Maybe the car's a freak, though I doubt it.
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It is a very good power one tho! Lucky. Sure you not giving it steroids in the tank to beef it up??
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
It is a very good power one tho! Lucky. Sure you not giving it steroids in the tank to beef it up??
I do when I go 1/4 mileing, and in the summer on the road, but the runs at stealth have been done on optimax. HB9 T6 I was also told to stay away from octane booster untill it's mapped.
I think the Ibiza will make 245bhp with the sports cat and downpipe, resulting in 219bhp/ton and 241 lbs ft per ton if it makes 270lbs ft
A golf making 280bhp will make 218bhp/ton and 315lbs ft comes out at about 246lbs ft per ton.
So i would think on the roads in performance terms they should be pretty close the weight diffrence making up for the power and torque difference. Even now its far superior to a k03 chipped ibiza. And i am very happy with how the car performs, hopefully adding the sports cat and downpipe will add that extra 8-12bhp and a little extra torque 10-20lbs ft.
A golf making 280bhp will make 218bhp/ton and 315lbs ft comes out at about 246lbs ft per ton.
So i would think on the roads in performance terms they should be pretty close the weight diffrence making up for the power and torque difference. Even now its far superior to a k03 chipped ibiza. And i am very happy with how the car performs, hopefully adding the sports cat and downpipe will add that extra 8-12bhp and a little extra torque 10-20lbs ft.
When its ready? Pace make custom Charge Coolers, and so you could get one any time... even 2 years ago. Or do you mean the Jabbasport Charge Cooler developed by Pace?
Cheers
Ben
I think the E05, if it can be made to flow and be cooled wel enough in an Ibiza. will be serious fun.... Comparing the performance with Golfttish's MKIV which I drove on sunday.
Nice power delivery and torquey.... REVO K03sport code at that time too, so not completed, but nice, very nice.
Intercooling is going to be key on the Ibiza as is downpipe size, cat etc.... Pump it up to 1.4bar and the Ibiza will fly... Needs pukka intercooling to cope with this tho... Pace OE position CC or larger FMIC... a must have on Ibiza.
It will be ace... Nice fast road bolt on kit.
regards
bill
Originally posted by Madmile
Its running stock injectors Mike at Jabba said the were big enough
Probably based on the boost levels, intercooling available...
Jon's Golf has a decent sized FMIC to cope with the higher boost.
High boost is OK so long as you can deal with the extra induction heat that introduces.
What is your current position on intercooling?
Originally posted by Madmile
I think the Ibiza will make 245bhp with the sports cat and downpipe, resulting in 219bhp/ton and 241 lbs ft per ton if it makes 270lbs ft
A golf making 280bhp will make 218bhp/ton and 315lbs ft comes out at about 246lbs ft per ton.
So i would think on the roads in performance terms they should be pretty close the weight diffrence making up for the power and torque difference. Even now its far superior to a k03 chipped ibiza. And i am very happy with how the car performs, hopefully adding the sports cat and downpipe will add that extra 8-12bhp and a little extra torque 10-20lbs ft.
What boost r u running at the moment?
