looking forward to seeing this run at awesome
Cheers Tim - I aim to get it right this time.
Glad to hear its all workin again Dave, may need to pick your brain soon about my setup
No probs, Nick.
Need to get mine set up and logged over the next few days.
RR Disappointment at Awesome.
RR at Awesome.
I'd logged the car after fitting a larger WMI nozzle (235cc/min - should be correct for my power) and advanced the timing by 10.5 degrees. All good.
However, on the way down, I got a couple of misfires at full power. Vag-Com showed a multiple misfire code.
The first two runs on the rollers showed something was amiss - the car sounded like it was missing - so I pulled it. Again - multiple missfire code. I was going to change the nozzle back to the original 175cc one - but I found that I'd brought the wrong accessories box. I knocked the timing back to 8.25 degrees and the car was run again later. The only difference was the later two runs gave less power. No fault codes though.
Here's my previous Awesome graph:
I'll post the pre RR logs later - they don't show anything.
I took the timing back to 0 for the drive home and disconnected the wmi. No signs of problems or fault codes from the 110m thrash.
Too much methanol?
RR at Awesome.
I'd logged the car after fitting a larger WMI nozzle (235cc/min - should be correct for my power) and advanced the timing by 10.5 degrees. All good.
However, on the way down, I got a couple of misfires at full power. Vag-Com showed a multiple misfire code.
The first two runs on the rollers showed something was amiss - the car sounded like it was missing - so I pulled it. Again - multiple missfire code. I was going to change the nozzle back to the original 175cc one - but I found that I'd brought the wrong accessories box.
I knocked the timing back to 8.25 degrees and the car was run again later. The only difference was the later two runs gave less power. No fault codes though.
Here's my previous Awesome graph:
I'll post the pre RR logs later - they don't show anything.
I took the timing back to 0 for the drive home and disconnected the wmi. No signs of problems or fault codes from the 110m thrash.
Too much methanol?
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Where abouts are you from?I live about a mile away from motorscope in northallerton, ill keep a look out for you if your from round here! Awesome results, bet it sounds insane!
Near Scotch Corner, Scott.
50/50, Damien. It was odd doing a RR day without you there!
Logs before RR day.
9 degrees of advance.
10.5 degrees advance
9 degrees of advance.
Code:
Thursday 25 June 2009 21:01:05
06A 906 032 HN 1.8L R4/5VT 01 0002
Group A: '003 Group B: '020
Idle speed Air mass in Throt Angle Ignit Angle Idle Stabilization
/min g/s % °BTDC CF CF CF CF
3200 65.72 100 24 0 0 0 0
3360 75.97 100 38.3 0 0 0 0
3560 90.53 100 24 0 0 0 0
3760 102.11 100 33.8 0 0 0 0
4040 122.61 100 15.8 0 0 0 0
4320 158.39 100 11.3 0 0 0 0
4560 175.22 100 12.8 0 0 0 0
4840 184.56 100 13.5 0 0 0 0
5080 190.47 100 17.3 0 0 0 0
5400 203.06 100 12.8 0 0 0 0
5640 216.56 100 16.5 0 0 0 0
5880 215.22 100 24 0 0 0 0
6120 219.36 100 17.3 0 0 0 0
6360 222.36 100 26.3 0 0 0 0
6520 231.78 100 27.8 0 0 0 0
6720 228.61 100 28.5 0 0 0 0
6960 228.17 100 20.3 0 0 0 0
7080 221.44 99.6 29.3 0 0 0 0
7120 232.69 99.2 30 0 0 0 0
Code:
Thursday 25 June 2009 21:13:45
06A 906 032 HN 1.8L R4/5VT 01 0002
'115 '031
Engine Speed Engine Load Spec. Boost Actual Boost Lambda Factor
/min % mbar mbar
3240 100 1550 1340 0.891 0.899
3360 110.5 1460 1440 0.852 0.836
3520 124.1 1420 1600 0.813 0.821
3640 136.1 2280 1830 0.805 0.821
3840 139.8 2350 1840 0.797 0.821
4080 152.6 2410 2030 0.805 0.805
4360 174.4 2450 2300 0.797 0.805
4600 190.2 2430 2510 0.813 0.805
4880 191.7 2390 2500 0.789 0.805
5200 191.7 2370 2500 0.797 0.805
5400 191 2380 2520 0.789 0.805
5680 189.5 2380 2490 0.797 0.805
5880 191 2380 2510 0.789 0.805
6120 185 2390 2490 0.797 0.805
6240 181.2 2400 2500 0.789 0.805
6400 180.5 2370 2520 0.805 0.805
6560 176.7 2340 2510 0.782 0.805
6760 173.7 2310 2470 0.789 0.805
6880 168.4 2280 2490 0.789 0.805
7040 162.4 2260 2500 0.75 0.805
7120 164.7 2270 2460 0.891 0.836
Code:
Thursday 25 June 2009 21:17:55
06A 906 032 HN 1.8L R4/5VT 01 0002
'118 '032
Engine Speed Air Temp In Boost Dut Cyc Actual Boost Idle O2 Adapt Run O2 Adapt
700-6800 RPM <=110 C 0-100% <=1800 mbar -10.1 -10.1
/min °C % mbar % %
2840 24 0 1030 0.4 0.8
3400 21 0 1190 0.4 0.8
3480 21 100 1280 0.4 0.8
3680 21 100 1550 0.4 0.8
3880 20 100 1760 0.4 0.8
4160 17 100 2030 0.4 0.8
4480 17 80.8 2380 0.4 0.8
4760 18 68.2 2530 0.4 0.8
5080 18 52.5 2510 0.4 0.8
5320 20 40.8 2510 0.4 0.8
5640 21 19.2 2540 0.4 0.8
5880 21 0 2540 0.4 0.8
6160 21 0 2520 0.4 0.8
6360 23 0 2500 0.4 0.8
6560 23 0 2490 0.4 0.8
6760 24 0 2530 0.4 0.8
6880 24 0 2490 0.4 0.8
7040 24 0 2490 0.4 0.8
7160 24 0 2380 0.4 0.8
7120 24 0 2540 0.4 0.810.5 degrees advance
Code:
Friday 26 June 2009 19:59:31
06A 906 032 HN 1.8L R4/5VT 01 0002
'003 '020
Idle speed Air mass in Throt Angle Ignit Angle Idle Stabilization
/min g/s % °BTDC CF CF CF CF
3560 61.81 33.3 26.3 0 0 0 3
3640 56.33 25.1 26.3 0 0 0 3
3720 63.44 27.8 26.3 0 0 3 3
3880 99.42 100 35.3 0 0 3 2.3
4080 117.81 100 31.5 0 0 3 2.3
4360 139.78 100 26.3 0 0 3 2.3
4600 170.61 100 14.3 0 0 3 2.3
4920 179.36 100 23.3 0 0 2.3 1.5
5240 188.31 100 13.5 0 0 1.5 0.8
5480 200.94 100 18 0 0 1.5 0.8
5680 209.44 100 24 0 0 1.5 0.8
5960 214.86 100 25.5 0 0 1.5 0.8
6160 223.22 100 18 0 0 0.8 0.8
6320 220.42 100 27.8 0 0 0.8 0
6480 228.17 100 18.8 0 0 0.8 0
6600 229.69 99.6 29.3 0 0 0.8 0
6760 225.36 98 29.3 0 0 0.8 0
6960 222.36 100 19.5 0 0 0.8 0
7080 219.69 100 19.5 0 0 0.8 0
7120 220.44 98.8 29.3 0 0 0.8 0
Newish coilpacks, Phil. I've had them go before and it doesn't seem the same. I'd be happy if you were right.....
Realy wish I could of made it Dave, looks like I missed a good day out
Whats your thoughts on the problem then mate?
I'm putting the car back to where it was before the last RS RR day. 175 nozzle with the same timing. Then I need to see if it's still missing...........
The water methanol does the cooling biz on the rollers ( big advantage over other cars really), Mark.
At the Northallerton RR day, the guy did 5 or 6 runs in fairly quick succession and the car was virtually the same every time. (As Wilko says, transmission losses lessen due to gearbox oil heatiing....)
Awesome had trouble with the speed sensors for the dyno on several cars (not mine) due to static. This would be because of the high humidity. 40% at nearly 30 degrees. This can obviously cause shorting. I'm just wondering if its enough to cause a sensor short - or that the additional moisture in the air on top of my methanol mix was just too much.....
Still need to log it with less methanol to see what's what.
Its a worry dave as im running a 175cc and you have alot more power. I remember John saying WMI should be 15% of the fuel thats injected. Have you worked out what this figure is for you Dave? I worked mine out to be needing a 210 CC nozzel.
Isnt your airflow very low?
Isnt your airflow very low?
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