Can anything be done to a K03?

[Mat]

Nope no difference at all when you hybrid them, i asked CR themselves. You'll also need a 3' MAF housing, turbo back exhaust(sports cat or decat)and manifold aswell as everything else everyone mentioned.

You 100% sure? I was thinking that that would be the case for reasons I mentioned above. I am correct in thinking the housing etc on the k03 and k03s are identical. The only difference is one has 8 blades and other has 12. When you drop in k04 internals, the blades come out regardless if k03 or k03s. Thus using the same housing?

You thinking ko3 hybrid Mat?

Yeah......... Although in theory, everyone who says they are running k03s hybrid are also running k03 hybrid, as the part that makes it a "s", ie the blades, have been removed?

Surely it'd be the same thing









Finally, can anyone confirm that a hybrid k03 and hybrid k03s will both give the same power outputs........ (ie, same car, same turbo internals on both etc)...... if a hybrid k03s is good for say 280-300, would a hybrid k03 be good for the same? Just concerned with this post

CR Turbos are able to hybrid-ise these units as they replace the compressor housing altogether

Orrr, take it to Alex at Backdraft and see if he can make another ~250 BHP out of one

 

[jamiebennett81]

Were they on here...

have to have a search for that then...must of been a right little animal...

it was a long time ago

dont think it was anyone on here, but more of a link posted to someone in Europe who did it...possibly Holland, but dont quote me on that, it came about a few years ago now

 

[s1l3nc3r]

Was it a mk3...

I no seat done a 1.4 twin turbo ibiza on one of the newer models...

 

[jamiebennett81]

Was it a mk3...

I no seat done a 1.4 twin turbo ibiza on one of the newer models...

here you go....

I knew it was around somewhere

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=200544

 

[Mat]

Is it true that a k03 spools up so easy that if u just stare at it starts spooling... .....Where you think the phrase k03-hybrid comes from you would need a map to suit aswell, fmic, and im sure you need a new tip aswell as the housing is bigger,

why would you? the housing wouldn't change. Don;t you use the k03 as the housing, then drop something like k04 internals in? Therefore, the TIP would still fit? or am I missing something else and being incredibly dumb?

 

[s1l3nc3r]

here you go....

I knew it was around somewhere

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=200544

Cheers mate...

That thing is mean...

 

[jamiebennett81]

why would you? the housing wouldn't change. Don;t you use the k03 as the housing, then drop something like k04 internals in? Therefore, the TIP would still fit? or am I missing something else and being incredibly dumb?

the housing is the same, it's the inlet that is largened for the larger RS6 turbine to be fitted

a k03 TIP does still fit, but is just stretched slightly more over the inlet

 

[Mat]

the housing is the same, it's the inlet that is largened for the larger RS6 turbine to be fitted

a k03 TIP does still fit, but is just stretched slightly more over the inlet

Do you mean it's bigger on the k03s as standard, or that whoever does the work will enlarge it regardless if it's a k03 or k03s.........

I can get a cheap k03, but don;t wanna waste money if it wont deliver the same power as a hybrid k03s with all same mods

 

[jamiebennett81]

Do you mean it's bigger on the k03s as standard, or that whoever does the work will enlarge it regardless if it's a k03 or k03s.........

I can get a cheap k03, but don;t wanna waste money if it wont deliver the same power as a hybrid k03s with all same mods

k03 and k03s inlets are exactly the same, its the turbine that is different on the two turbo's (I think, which gives its better level of flow). k03 or k03s can be supplied for hybrid treatment, does not matter which turbo is supplied as both are essentially the same and no advantage supplying a k03s. easier and cheaper to get hold of a k03, therefore saving your self some money initially

the inlet is milled out to house the larger RS6 turbine and then basically bolted onto a k04 cartridge

no such thing really as a hybrid k03s, just a hybrid k03

 

[Robbie C]

I think it depends on the turbo company doing the work as there are more differences than just the blades. From the information I've found floating around a long time ago it seems a K03S has:

8 blades as opposed to 12 on compressor wheel
Compressor housing is 39.5ml as opposed to 37ml
K03S Turbos have 0052/0053 in the serial number and they usually are 704D/704S/704T
Larger main vein and larger continuation
Only one vac line off of the actuator (2 on K03)

So, if the whole compressor housing is changed then you can use either a K03 or K03S but if they just swap the wheels and mill out the housing and leave the neck then a K03S will flow *slightly* better. That's my understanding anyway

 

[Mat]

cheers for confirming that...... thought it was as simple as that. Think I confuse things in my head too much LMAO

Cheers for clearing it up mate. Looks like a £30 k03 it is then

 

[Robbie C]

Also have a butchers of http://audittmk1.blogspot.com/2008/02/kkk-turbos-k03-k03s-k04-etc.html

Notice that officially speaking, there's no such thing as a K03S They are K03-052 and 053 variants of the K03

 

[jamiebennett81]

cheers for confirming that...... thought it was as simple as that. Think I confuse things in my head too much LMAO

Cheers for clearing it up mate. Looks like a £30 k03 it is then

key thing when buying is making sure three are no cracks, like an exhaust housing. Not sure what companies like CRT would say if they received a k03 from you with a crack in it...probably goosed and you would have to buy a bran new one or source another k03 in reasonable condition

 

[ian_cupra]

the only reason CR turbo's say they are the same in the end is because they use a K04 housing, where as other companies stick with the k03/k03s housing, which are slightly different as RobbieC has shown.

only need a new TIP if using the CRT hybrid, due to it basically being a k04 with a k03 exhaust side to the turbo.

so it depends where you are having the turbo done, Robbie knows how the 2 differ as i believe you have been out in a CRT one and a JBS04

 

[ian_cupra]

key thing when buying is making sure three are no cracks, like an exhaust housing. Not sure what companies like CRT would say if they received a k03 from you with a crack in it...probably goosed and you would have to buy a bran new one or source another k03 in reasonable condition

and its pretty hard to find one with no cracks at all, they seem to crack on the first ever start up

 

[Robbie C]

Indeed I have

To make it clear, the K03 turbos that come fitted as standard to the Ibiza Cupras use a 85N actuator (K03-045) with two ports. The K03"S" are a later development of the K03 (K03-052/K03-053) and use a slightly different 85N actuator, large compressor wheel and *slightly* bigger housing. They both use the same turbine.

So, as said before it all depends on the turbo company that perform the hybrid work. If they upgrade the complete compressor assembly then it makes no odds.

 

[jamiebennett81]

the only reason CR turbo's say they are the same in the end is because they use a K04 housing, where as other companies stick with the k03/k03s housing, which are slightly different as RobbieC has shown.

only need a new TIP if using the CRT hybrid, due to it basically being a k04 with a k03 exhaust side to the turbo.

so it depends where you are having the turbo done, Robbie knows how the 2 differ as i believe you have been out in a CRT one and a JBS04

is yours a JBS04 then Ian.....cant remember

 

[ian_cupra]

it is indeed

 

[ian_cupra]

thats a point, you've been in both too havent you

 

[jamiebennett81]

it is indeed

should blow up soon then

thats a point, you've been in both too havent you

erm yes, mine