Formentor System Errors

[AndyCupra93]

Ok so 700 miles in here's my list of gremlins...

1. sometimes phone will not connect android auto tested and it's the car not the phone,more often than not it works though.
2. quite a lot the audio volume/radio ect is a lot louder when i first start the car and i have to lower it straight away.
3. 3 times now i've had a message appear on the dash saying about the road sign reading tech was not available whilst driving.
4. today i had a message come up on the dash and stay for a minute or so saying trafic assistant not available ,left 3 amber warnings on the dash for about 10 mins .
5. very annoying parking sensor warnings when turning into a right hand street/road just as you turn normally.
6. front parking sensor sometimes comes on when when i'm in very slow traffic or at the lights,(rare)
7. a few times i've had a message appear on the infotainment screen saying changing car settings on starting up when ive not touched anything.

That last point is suddenly happening very frequently to me, recently. On one occasion it coincided with a “front assist not available” error… There have been some very minor OTA updates recently, not sure if they’re related.

 

[Tell]

Ok so 700 miles in here's my list of gremlins...

1. sometimes phone will not connect android auto tested and it's the car not the phone,more often than not it works though.
2. quite a lot the audio volume/radio ect is a lot louder when i first start the car and i have to lower it straight away.
3. 3 times now i've had a message appear on the dash saying about the road sign reading tech was not available whilst driving.
4. today i had a message come up on the dash and stay for a minute or so saying trafic assistant not available ,left 3 amber warnings on the dash for about 10 mins .
5. very annoying parking sensor warnings when turning into a right hand street/road just as you turn normally.
6. front parking sensor sometimes comes on when when i'm in very slow traffic or at the lights,(rare)
7. a few times i've had a message appear on the infotainment screen saying changing car settings on starting up when ive not touched anything.

Sure

2. Isnt a default you can adjust. You also get a variable volume which I set to off in my Ateca so increased noise in the cabin doesn't automatically bring up the volume or drop it. Might have a bearing.

3. I reckon that's sunlight if the high definition camera gets blinded. I got a warning the other day with sun full on.

4. Might be 3 if it's using the lane camera or water logged front assist. Same front radar.

6. Get that when someone drives up my bumper in a slow moving queue

Still not a bad list at the minute .

 

[ninja_geezer]

Sure

2. Isnt a default you can adjust. You also get a variable volume which I set to off in my Ateca so increased noise in the cabin doesn't automatically bring up the volume or drop it. Might have a bearing.

3. I reckon that's sunlight if the high definition camera gets blinded. I got a warning the other day with sun full on.

4. Might be 3 if it's using the lane camera or water logged front assist. Same front radar.

6. Get that when someone drives up my bumper in a slow moving queue

Still not a bad list at the minute .

nothing major i know , just niggles i guess.....

 

[Tell]

nothing major i know , just niggles i guess.....

Think you modded the major stuff out.

 

[ninja_geezer]

Think you modded the major stuff out.

still stock .....not for long lol...

 

[DrCupra]

Yesterday, i started the car, tried to open glassroof several times but didnt work, after 10 min tried again and it works. Near my home, closed it and i got “key not in vehicle” warning for 2 seconds and disappear. Weird

 

[ninja_geezer]

All the late VAG cars all seem full of bugs. i use mine several short journeys' a day in the week and it's a lottery what's going to happen when you start it....the most annoying is the parking sensors ,at the traffic lights yesterday no cars in front and was telling me there was something very close to my front left ....nothing there dry day ,i even nipped out to check sensor clean and dry. i have to hit the X to make it stop...its about time the software guys sorted these issues ....the thing is never had a glitch on the BMW in 3 years from new.....guess what i'm getting next ....

 

[jcbmally]

So went on a 600 mile round trip to visit family and although my car has been behaving itself, yesterday I encountered a couple of issues.
These were the kph displaying issue and the ACC braking when overtaking cars. Funny thing was that this only happened between Perth and Aberdeen ?????, other than that area it worked as it should. Apart from that the car was spot on, comfy, pretty refined and I didn’t feel tired afterwards.
Dropped a message to the sales guy regarding the ACC and he did say there was another update inbound (yawn, same old same old), but I did remind him that he said the MY22 was supposed to be sorted.

 

[Tell]

So went on a 600 mile round trip to visit family and although my car has been behaving itself, yesterday I encountered a couple of issues.
These were the kph displaying issue and the ACC braking when overtaking cars. Funny thing was that this only happened between Perth and Aberdeen ?????, other than that area it worked as it should. Apart from that the car was spot on, comfy, pretty refined and I didn’t feel tired afterwards.
Dropped a message to the sales guy regarding the ACC and he did say there was another update inbound (yawn, same old same old), but I did remind him that he said the MY22 was supposed to be sorted.

You dont think when it swaps to KPH it swaps the behaviour of overtaking to undertaking .... Don't think any one has proffered that one up before . Or it's just duff data in the systems that affects the two independently. The later you can change the behaviour with undertaking coding as covered on the Obdeleven thread just leaves the KPH / MPH issue. Coding is not for all thou. Some people may want the system to work as designed without user meddling.

 

[AndyCupra93]

You dont think when it swaps to KPH it swaps the behaviour of overtaking to undertaking .... Don't think any one has proffered that one up before . Or it's just duff data in the systems that affects the two independently. The later you can change the behaviour with undertaking coding as covered on the Obdeleven thread just leaves the KPH / MPH issue. Coding is not for all thou. Some people may want the system to work as designed without user meddling.

Nope one regularly happens without the other, but that’s not to say the two are mutually exclusive (I haven’t noticed if it’s ever switched to both kph and LHD overtaking simultaneously).

The weird thing is how it can ‘randomly’ switch back and forth between kph & mph and/or LHD & RHD on journeys while other times it will go the whole journey either correctly or incorrectly.

Being an electronics & embedded software engineer, I’d love to know what is going on in the code that causes this…

 

[jcbmally]

You dont think when it swaps to KPH it swaps the behaviour of overtaking to undertaking .... Don't think any one has proffered that one up before . Or it's just duff data in the systems that affects the two independently. The later you can change the behaviour with undertaking coding as covered on the Obdeleven thread just leaves the KPH / MPH issue. Coding is not for all thou. Some people may want the system to work as designed without user meddling.

Regarding the ACC it also did it when showing mph but again only happened in the area stated. The one annoying thing is I can’t have cruise control only, has to be ACC but it’s not the end of the world.

 

[Tell]

Nope one regularly happens without the other, but that’s not to say the two are mutually exclusive (I haven’t noticed if it’s ever switched to both kph and LHD overtaking simultaneously).

The weird thing is how it can ‘randomly’ switch back and forth between kph & mph and/or LHD & RHD on journeys while other times it will go the whole journey either correctly or incorrectly.

Being an electronics & embedded software engineer, I’d love to know what is going on in the code that causes this…

& I'm the management scientist.

There must be so much duff data. The Obdeleven error reports are suppose to be massive with these cars. Untill they manage their VCDS errors nothing's going to work correctly.

Interesting my garage caused a bunch at service and never cleared them. Poor workmanship is spreading. I cleared them when I got home. I was miffed about that.

 

[Tell]

Regarding the ACC it also did it when showing mph but again only happened in the area stated. The one annoying thing is I can’t have cruise control only, has to be ACC but it’s not the end of the world.

The car is suppose to know which country it is in to read the signs correctly, beep and warn for speeding and ACC. It gets that from the digitised maps. I'm wondering whether the people that create the map upload made a pigs ear of the road segments so some get recorded with a speed in kph and others in mph. You'd have to run it up and down the road to test. Other than that it's programs running outside their memory allocation... normally crash when that happens.

Is this a GB only issue ?. Is Eire and the EU free of this issue?.

 

[Maypack]

Regarding the ACC it also did it when showing mph but again only happened in the area stated. The one annoying thing is I can’t have cruise control only, has to be ACC but it’s not the end of the world.

Try it on the bypass to Workington. Mine switches from 70mph to 42mph on that stretch of road.

Worth seeing if the newer software does it there too.


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[Agnes.Surrey]

Didn't we discuss it to death already and we still don't know why ACC is switching between miles and km. My theory was, that it's not able to read signs for certain parts of the road. That's why it's happening only in some places and on the same routes.

 

[Tell]

Well I reckon the data is garbled on the maps if it does it in the same place. Not having a MQB Evo platform I dont follow all conversations. Saying that TSR does know when it's "abroad" hence how it reads the signs in KPH and not MPH... Don't reckon it's based on a ringed GPS area but on the segments of the maps. If it happens in the same place it's that. You could stick masking tape over the camera to be clear . Applied research . Take it up and down the road. Test that. Mask the camera, test that.

 

[Agnes.Surrey]

It doesn't do this in the same places, it does it on the same routes. I explained it earlier. It will only show km/h on certain M25 parts, depending where I join it. I can join at J9 and drive later between J6 and J5 and it will be fine. But if I join at J6 to drive to J5, it doesn't read signs on slip road, because there are none, and switches to km/h.

 

[Tell]

I'd put my money on it being incorrectly set up segments of the digitised map unless it needs to read a sign to kick it into mph which is a programming bug. My belief is our signs are identical to continental ones. It only knows that you are outside UK and Northern Ireland by the digitised maps then switches itself to KPH so it reads the signs correctly and translates the speed warnings and corrections to MPH.

To me it seems that, that is corrupted so it keeps thinking it's abroad. May be when it's sees a sign it rethinks about it or double checks the digitised map which at that point is correct or it was always correct but not read correctly but kicks it to correct itself. There is an interaction between the digitised map and the sign reading in TSR.... goes without saying. That interaction may fix the issue which was caused by duff data on the digital map or duff systems in the car.

May be it's not checking enough that it's not abroad !. The EU getting their revenge on Brexiteers .

Still waiting to hear whether this issue only occurs in countries on MPH, suspect so. Normally I search European boards for stuff... somebody can do this. Wonder if Irish cars get this in Eire ?. Crossing over into NI would be interesting.

Still my TSR works perfectly on a mib2 abroad or not. Think we can all agree the systems in the MQB Evo platform haven't been tested enough and rolled out with issues.

 

[jcbmally]

Try it on the bypass to Workington. Mine switches from 70mph to 42mph on that stretch of road.

Worth seeing if the newer software does it there too.


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I’ll try that this week

 

[Maypack]

I’ll try that this week

If it does the same for you then we can assume it is related to road signs not being read (Correctly).

If it does t do it for you then it’s back to the drawing board for the theory that it’s related to certain road sections.


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