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Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1
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You know what they say about the cat.... basically you got the CID on the two cards which will be different, the unit is paired to the CID, that NDS file which strictly is used with the release not normally swapped about.
I'd think in an update it updates the CID that the car uses so normally you wouldn't be able to use both cards, either one or the other unless you clone the CID. Have you tried a hard reset where you hold onto the button volume button till the speakers go bang. You'd do that on the card you thought was back to normal. On the upgrade with a card I think it could be sensitive to which SD slit is used, this is just something I've read and vaguely remember.
There might be people about who have done the normal card upgrade and know the sequence. Personally I wouldn't have tried. There was the post three or more months ago where someone launched on something similar you might find the answer there. It's the one that finished off by someone saying you made work for yourself whilst we all had to listen to how he fixed it after he'd dug a hole for himself
. Generally just do the workaround on the card that comes with the car (mib2). VW anticipate the SD is reliable for continued updates of the maps.
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ok you fixed it. Yes you'd be clear to go now with the 1030
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I'd think in an update it updates the CID that the car uses so normally you wouldn't be able to use both cards, either one or the other unless you clone the CID. Have you tried a hard reset where you hold onto the button volume button till the speakers go bang. You'd do that on the card you thought was back to normal. On the upgrade with a card I think it could be sensitive to which SD slit is used, this is just something I've read and vaguely remember.
There might be people about who have done the normal card upgrade and know the sequence. Personally I wouldn't have tried. There was the post three or more months ago where someone launched on something similar you might find the answer there. It's the one that finished off by someone saying you made work for yourself whilst we all had to listen to how he fixed it after he'd dug a hole for himself
. Generally just do the workaround on the card that comes with the car (mib2). VW anticipate the SD is reliable for continued updates of the maps.Edit
ok you fixed it. Yes you'd be clear to go now with the 1030
.Phew, I felt a bit responsible there since I was the dafty who suggested just bunging the old card in!
Don’t feel bad, I’m an inveterate meddler by birth!!!
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I don’t think it matters once it’s installed in the car. I always lock mine.
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Well guys here we go again...........Now as I know I have a working Nav with my original V6 915 maps, I thought I'd take another look at the older V2 SD card that didn't work with 1030 maps and I found an error in my updating, the OVERALL.NDS file was in the wrong place, it was in the EEC folder rather than the EEC/WILD folder, how this happened I'm not sure.
Anyway to cut a long story short and taking the stupid risk of trying it again (I know I'm an idiot but I don't like giving up), the old SD card with the 1030 maps only went & WORKED!
Can't believe it. So I know have my £10 eBay card in and working with 1030 and I've left my original card as 915 as it was when I took delivery.
Stevan we shouldn't have doubted you, you were right all along!
Maybe worth picking up a dirt cheap card as back up if you damage or lose your own as long as you have it backed up on other media.
Anyway to cut a long story short and taking the stupid risk of trying it again (I know I'm an idiot but I don't like giving up), the old SD card with the 1030 maps only went & WORKED!
Can't believe it. So I know have my £10 eBay card in and working with 1030 and I've left my original card as 915 as it was when I took delivery.
Stevan we shouldn't have doubted you, you were right all along!
Maybe worth picking up a dirt cheap card as back up if you damage or lose your own as long as you have it backed up on other media.
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I'm so envious of you guys with MIB2 standard as opposed to MIB2 high!
Thinking of getting my unit upgraded by the guy selling this, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 he said he can upgrade my existing unit for £200, can't make my mind up whether to go for it or not.
Thinking of getting my unit upgraded by the guy selling this, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 he said he can upgrade my existing unit for £200, can't make my mind up whether to go for it or not.
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You can be the guinea pig on the Mib2 High... although I feel wary of these companies. You do read a certain amount of people having issues once they start changing things although people with retro fit units do evade Mapcare and upgrade successfully and this is done via the SWDL menu which is why I went down that route of enabling the developers menu.
The partial upgrade works, so it's whether my hunch of how the map upgrade is controlled which I've yet to test due to the signature business. I'm going to have a renewed session once I got the car on the drive so I can better experiment. There is a command which says ignore checksums and signatures so liberal use may work or not. I managed to get my modified top macro call too call the mib2 macro - then it reported an error. Putting the command in again on the macro it calls may work or the developers may have been clever and catch you out. Like not recognising ignore signatures on a further call or all these calls are independent. I am hoping each call is viewed as being independent. Then I'm in with a chance.
Question of nibbling away at it. The macro controls how the update is read into the unit. If you can fiddle with that and determine how the unit rejects newer maps (it locks you out), this is were I think it's just the release number rather than something in the map files themselves, you would be home and dry.
I'm not wishing to mess the unit up in the next couple of weeks so I'm putting it off rather than risking it. Too hot out in the car as well. There was one guy with a Mib1 on an Italian website who messed his unit up via this approach with the SWDL commands. He ran out of memory since he wasnt freeing any memory up. Mib1 didn't use signatures as such which is what is slowing me down. So a little wary.
The partial upgrade works, so it's whether my hunch of how the map upgrade is controlled which I've yet to test due to the signature business. I'm going to have a renewed session once I got the car on the drive so I can better experiment. There is a command which says ignore checksums and signatures so liberal use may work or not. I managed to get my modified top macro call too call the mib2 macro - then it reported an error. Putting the command in again on the macro it calls may work or the developers may have been clever and catch you out. Like not recognising ignore signatures on a further call or all these calls are independent. I am hoping each call is viewed as being independent. Then I'm in with a chance.
Question of nibbling away at it. The macro controls how the update is read into the unit. If you can fiddle with that and determine how the unit rejects newer maps (it locks you out), this is were I think it's just the release number rather than something in the map files themselves, you would be home and dry.
I'm not wishing to mess the unit up in the next couple of weeks so I'm putting it off rather than risking it. Too hot out in the car as well. There was one guy with a Mib1 on an Italian website who messed his unit up via this approach with the SWDL commands. He ran out of memory since he wasnt freeing any memory up. Mib1 didn't use signatures as such which is what is slowing me down. So a little wary.
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I must admit I was very nervous about trying it again, but when I found my error I was almost certain that it would work when corrected. Have you tried your original card to see if it still works? I have left the previous version of maps on my original card but haven’t put that back in to make sure it still works.
I will probably just keep updating the eBay card and keep my original untouched to put back in the car when I return it to the Leasing company.
I'm intrigued since I thought the CID bit and the hidden directory was registered to the infotainment unit hence why you can't run with two cards unless the new card inherits what was on the original and the assumption is you wouldn't use the old maps. I must look back in the thread when the guy was playing card games with two cards....
I wouldn't worry about handing a car back with updated maps.
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Still searching back for the guy that got into a pickle with the cards, but found a post where the previous updated map card didn't work after the SD card update. I'll stick to what I said before that if you don't clone the hidden part of the card you cant have two interchangeable cards that work but I might be proved wrong. I think that's the end point of the person that got into a mess with their cards. The process is either going to be transfer the hidden information to the new card or allow registration of the new card to the unit deleting the previous unless they allow you a long list of registered cards which is doubtful.
I wouldn't worry about handing a car back with updated maps.
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Still searching back for the guy that got into a pickle with the cards, but found a post where the previous updated map card didn't work after the SD card update. I'll stick to what I said before that if you don't clone the hidden part of the card you cant have two interchangeable cards that work but I might be proved wrong
. I think that's the end point of the person that got into a mess with their cards. The process is either going to be transfer the hidden information to the new card or allow registration of the new card to the unit deleting the previous unless they allow you a long list of registered cards which is doubtful.
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Whoever gets the care afterwards will probably be happy to have up to date maps on it.
I definitely remember trying the old (original) card and it working. It was a while ago though, I vaguely remember it moaning about it's database which I maybe just hard resetted through, but can't say for sure. I'm a bit nervous about testing this just now though....
I think it wise to quit whilst we are ahead. I could have just left my updated original in, but was intrigued enough to try and use an updated old card just to see if it worked, now it has I’ll stick with it, I’ve stuck my neck out quite enough this week!
Working on the basis that Tell is correct and the hidden partition is transferred to a new card at least we have proved that if you damage or lose your original SD card you can at least purchase a cheapy from the Bay, update it and carry on without having to buy an expensive replacement from the dealer.
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