DPJ's GTRS Eliminator Install and Development

[PhilW]

Damn theyre lookin good as well. Gotta be happy with that.

How are the cold starts dave? Any problems with those?

 

[DPJ]

Damn theyre lookin good as well. Gotta be happy with that.

How are the cold starts dave? Any problems with those?

They're perfect, Phil. Absolutely no issues.

 

[DPJ]

Didn't get as much time on it as I would have liked today.

I hadn't intended to install the charge pipe at a 30 degree slope down, but it works well that way. Furtunately, I had a silicon off the LCR kit that took it to vertical. Sorry anout the quality of the next pic.

I'll do the coldside tomorrow morning.

 

[UncleFester]

That looks lovely Dave - it also looks like you got the bumper off without removing the arch liners, what's the black magic behind that?

 

[m0rk]

no black magic, just undo them to free it up

 

[Feel]

Looks good Dave - I'm a bit confused about the...

intended to install the charge pipe at a 30 degree slope down, but it works well that way. Furtunately, I had a silicon off the LCR kit that took it to vertical

...bit, but I'm sure your main purpose in life is not to make sure I'm not confused

While the bumper's off and in front of the car, we couldn't convince you to drive over it and get a new one, could we

 

[UncleFester]

He just makes it look so simple and the end result is factory tidy, it's fascinating to watch threads like this progress.

edit: i was going to ask why go to the bother of all that neat and tidy coloured pipework and not remove the bodykit ... but i felt that was best left to the 'management'

 

[DPJ]

That looks lovely Dave - it also looks like you got the bumper off without removing the arch liners, what's the black magic behind that?

Yes, only a couple of screws holding the bumper to the liner. No point in moving them really.

Looks good Dave - I'm a bit confused about the...

...bit, but I'm sure your main purpose in life is not to make sure I'm not confused

Sorry Phil . I thought the charge pipe would sit horizontally. There's a long bend that goes down and outward to the passenger side. When I put them in, there was a much bigger vertical drop between the end of the charge pipe and the top of the alloy bend. I therefore decided to slope the charge pipe down to keep the run shorter.

While the bumper's off and in front of the car, we couldn't convince you to drive over it and get a new one, could we

 

[DPJ]

........i was going to ask why go to the bother of all that neat and tidy coloured pipework and not remove the bodykit ... but i felt that was best left to the 'management'

I'm after a 1.4 badge for it now.
No budget left for bodywork. I hope I can find a way to use samcos for the pump system on my future pool in the South of France because I've already raided that pot!

 

[Feel]

Ah, prolly look better horizontal, and not going to be too much longer - whole run will still be shorter than LCR's). But would you still get the cover on (DV take off in the way?).

 

[DPJ]

Ah, prolly look better horizontal, and not going to be too much longer - whole run will still be shorter than LCR's). But would you still get the cover on (DV take off in the way?).

IMO it actually looks fine sloping down. I'll try get a better picture when I'm finished. Probably saved 9" run. You're right though, the cover wouldn't go back on unless I made a longer dump pipe to curve round the back. (I had a blue elbow to go on the charge pipe spigot, it was hiding from me this afternoon. )

 

[ibizacupra]

Is this a mutant Leon/Zanussi tumble drier arrangement?

 

[h17och]

that claxon looks worryingly chavy

 

[DPJ]

Is this a mutant Leon/Zanussi tumble drier arrangement?

Bill, haven't you seen modern builders' scaffolding? They have these waste chutes from the top. That's what I have, all the old connectors, pipe and crap in at the top, straight out the bottom into a miniature skip.

 

[DPJ]

that claxon looks worryingly chavy

If I'd wanted it to 'look' chavy then I'd have mounted it so it sticks out through a foglight hole.

 

[DPJ]

that claxon looks worryingly chavy

If I'd wanted it to 'look' chavy then I'd have mounted it so it sticks out through a foglight hole.

 

[h17och]

i didnt mean it makes your car look chavy (once bumpers on you can see obviously) but ive had one on my old mini and i can say they are very motorsport...or vag for that matter lol

peoples faces when they hear it is priceless tho

 

[DPJ]

Put a little bit of thought into the coldside run. I raided the LCR pipe kit again for a couple of 45 degree silicons, but I think I managed to keep it short.

It was fun taking it for a drive like this - you do get funny looks!

In all honesty, I had a real fight to get the bumper back on. The pre-facelift doesn't fit over the LCR intercooler. I had to get my jigsaw out to effect a temporary solution. It's currently bulging around the top grilles because the moulding along the bottom (original) grille is tight against the intercooler bottom. I'm going to have to carve some of that away. You'll see from the next photo (sorry about the light) that the bottom part of the intercooler is blocked.

I did manage some logs with the front on, though....

19 degrees outside temp
LB9 T5

Sunday	22	July	2007	20:24:33			
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002					

'003				Group B:	'020		
Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
2440	28.75	18	26.3	0	0	0	1.5
2520	38.11	31.4	26.3	0	0	0	0
2680	49.94	97.3	26.3	0	0	0	0
2880	56.42	100	25.5	0	0	0	0
3120	63.75	100	24.8	0	0	0	0
3360	74.08	100	24	0	0	0	0
3600	88.86	100	22.5	0	0	0	0
3880	107.47	100	18.8	0	0	0	0
4240	131.25	100	15.8	0	0	0	0
4680	153.75	100	9.8	0	0	0	0
5000	171.89	100	10.5	0	0	0	0
5400	177.36	100	10.5	0	0	0	0
5720	187.58	100	12	0	0	0	0
6000	191	100	12.8	0	0	0	0
6280	195.69	100	13.5	0	0	0	0
6520	193.58	100	14.3	0	0	0	0

Sunday	22	July	2007	20:27:22	
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002			

Group A:	'115			Group B:	'031
Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor
 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar		
3000	51.9	990	1080	0.977	1
3080	77.4	1930	1080	0.875	0.969
3200	96.2	1960	1290	0.922	0.914
3400	109.8	2020	1460	0.852	0.836
3680	124.1	2090	1630	0.821	0.828
3920	138.3	2190	1820	0.813	0.813
4280	155.6	2230	2090	0.797	0.805
4760	172.9	2250	2310	0.789	0.805
5120	181.2	2230	2350	0.789	0.805
5520	175.2	2230	2220	0.797	0.805
5840	169.9	2220	2220	0.797	0.805
6160	165.4	2230	2160	0.797	0.805
6400	160.9	2250	2170	0.789	0.805
6680	157.9	2240	2270	0.789	0.805

Sunday	22	July	2007	20:30:10	
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002			

Group A:	'118			Group B:	'032
Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost	Idle O2 Adapt	Run O2 Adapt
 /min	°C	%	 mbar	%	%
2840	23	0	1020	1.9	1.6
2920	23	100	1080	1.9	1.6
3080	22	100	1270	1.9	1.6
3280	21	100	1420	1.9	1.6
3520	21	100	1540	1.9	1.6
3880	21	100	1780	1.9	1.6
4240	21	64.7	2020	1.9	1.6
4640	22	58	2200	1.9	1.6
5080	23	51.4	2350	1.9	1.6
5480	24	42.4	2270	1.9	1.6
5880	25	42.4	2180	1.9	1.6
6160	27	45.5	2210	1.9	1.6
6440	27	49.4	2220	1.9	1.6
6720	29	49	2250	1.9	1.6
6960	30	47.1	2170	1.9	1.6
5960	27	0	1290	1.9	1.6
5160	24	0	1090	1.9	1.6

 

[UncleFester]

That's one hell of a drop in intake temps, i think mine peak at about 31 or so and thats on a stock fmic.

Now you've found the bumper blocks airflow through the FMIC, are you going to fit a facelift cupra one or cut a HUGE section out of the front of the existing one

 

[DPJ]

That's one hell of a drop in intake temps, i think mine peak at about 31 or so and thats on a stock fmic.

Now you've found the bumper blocks airflow through the FMIC, are you going to fit a facelift cupra one or cut a HUGE section out of the front of the existing one

The latter is very tempting!
I've blown hot and cold about fitting a later bumper for a long time.
Short term, I can cut vent slots across the remaining front valance (that's behind the front skirt), then fit a section underneath to divert air from the long wide slot in the front skirt.