flip key info thread

[Glennolls]

Big thanks to everyone on this thread for all of the info and know how regarding the keys.

I've now got myself a flip key for my Ibiza and all works fine (New key is 434MHz, old one is 433MHz). What's more i bought a 3 button one off ebay and the boot button works as well on my car!

The only problem i've got is that Timpsons have made a bit of a mess of cutting the blade and it feels like i am forcing it a bit when i turn the key in the ignition compared to my original key which is very smooth. Has any one else found this?

Anyway i've found a guy on ebay who can cut new blades just by having the keycode so i'm giving this a go as i don't want to damage anything just for the sake of buying a new blade plus its quite a reasonable price i thought... £7 for a new blade and cutting. I will post to let people know if this ebay key cutter is any goodwhen i recieve the new blade.

 

[Saul]

ummm, just a word of warning

if you send your key code to a guy off ebay, who cuts your key and sends it back to your home address................can you see where im going with this?

 

[Glennolls]

ummm, just a word of warning

if you send your key code to a guy off ebay, who cuts your key and sends it back to your home address................can you see where im going with this?

know what your saying and have thought about it but anyways its being posted to another address so i'm not worried about it

 

[Nath.]

timsons cut my key and it works fine

the only thing was some scratching of the blade down to the brass from the cutting prosess

so I used some fine sandpaper to polish the plating away to expose the brass

I think it looks ok, not as good as the dealer ones that are cut and then plated

 

[gazjones]

does any one know how to remove the key blade as mine is loose and want to pack it out and refit it do you just remove the pin? then pull the blade out?

 

[gazjones]

will try that any good tools lying around the house that work well?

 

[AndyC567]

Interesting thread this...

Right then, got my flip key, got my new HAA key blank, managed to program the remote to lock and unlock the car, managed to get the key bit of the flip thingy apart (have a pile of springs etc)..

Good so far..

Two things left to do, which I would appreciate some help from you guys who have done it.

1) How do you get the tiny pin out to fit the new key blank ?

2) How do you get the Transponder out of your non-remote key in one piece so it can be fitted to the new flip key ?
When I removed the unwanted transponder from the flip key, it broke into a million pieces and came out as dust !!

Many thanks for any advice that you guys can give.

 

[Nath.]

to remove the transponder without turning it into dust use a sharp blade like a scalpel to gently cut the glue away

the pin that holds the blank in can be pressed out with a pair of plyers and a 10mm bit of a (thick) paper clip, you know the large ones not the normal size ones......................it ain't easy I would probably use my vice and a small nut for the pin to press out into

good luck

 

[Funkyfin2000]

guys....

im trying to 434mhz hella key on my mk3 ibiza this afternoon...

whats the coding procedue?

 

[AndyC567]

im trying to 434mhz hella key on my mk3 ibiza this afternoon...
whats the coding procedue?

Thats the easy bit.....

To code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on.
Then lock the door with the new key and the remove key.
Then press unlock and horn will blip, wait 6 second and press unlock again.
The key is now coded to your car !


I have done this succesfully, but the difficulty that I am having is getting the pin out to replace the blade (looks possible though), and getting the transponder chip out of my 'spare' key in one piece.

 

[AndyC567]

Yeah ut ive seen several different ways of doing it...

Andy have u actyally got a mk3 ibiza...

ive seen suggestions of keys in doors.... and then do it...

ive seen keys in ignition and do it....

sorry, no I don't have a MK3 Ibiza..

I have a MK2 Tolly..

Would of thout procedure was the same though ?

 

[Funkyfin2000]

hgmm unsure...i used this one to code it before with the seat alhambra key...

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

 

[Funkyfin2000]

in fact ive seen the following for programming:

To code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on.
Then lock the door with the new key and the remove key.
Then press unlock and horn will blip, wait 6 second and press unlock again.
The key is now coded to your car !


1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation



How to program VW remote keys

1. Take the valet (original) key, put it into the ignition and turn the key to the
"on" position, just prior to starting the car.

2. Roll down the driver's side window (not required, but a good idea in
case there's a problem).

3. Exit the car and close the door.

4. With a second key, physically lock the doors (don't use a remote).

5. Take the first remote to be programmed, press one of the buttons and
the lights will flash once. Wait 10 seconds and press the unlock
button.

The doors should unlock. That first transmitter is now programmed.

6. Lock the door again (physically) with the key, (not the remote).

7. Press one of the buttons twice, the lights will flash twice. Wait 10
seconds and press the unlock button. The doors should unlock. The
second
transmitter is now programmed.

For a third transmitter press the button 3 times and for a fourth press
4 times.

Make sure that to test the newly program remotes, the original key is
removed from the ignition. Someone might be a bit frustrated trying to
test it with it still in 'program' mode.

If you are having problems check the key is right one for year of car,
the key and battery are good. Sometimes when trying to program the key
it won't turn in the ignition stopping you from following the rest of
the steps to program the key, when this happens it is the transponder
chip in the key that sends and receives info from the immobiliser for
starting the car, If this happens it will need to be synchronized/coded
to the immobiliser at a good local locksmith or other specialist to
proceed with the rest of the steps.

If you have a Ford Galaxy, VW Sharan or Seat alhambra-
Hold key in drivers door lock, turn to unlock 3 times, this illuminates red light in driver's door.Press and hold the unlock button on key and press the lock button 3 times to get light in driver's door flashing again.You galaxy remote key should now be programmed.

 

[Funkyfin2000]

Well guys...

guess frickin wat!

NONE of those work at all.....

I now have

3 flip key -

2 = 434mhz VW keys
1 = 433.92mhz Seat Alhambra Key

The Seat Alhambra key works fine........and codes fine with the following instructions, but the 434mhz keys won't code AT all..

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

Any help appreciated...

Sparesman? Can you help? I am presuming that 434mhz keys won't work at all!!!!

Im guessing this must now be due to these being HELLA keys and the Seat Alhambra key being a SIEMENS key!

Please help if you can.

If anyone wants to purchase 2 Flip keys! then let me know!

Rich

 

[SpareMan]

Well guys...

guess frickin wat!

NONE of those work at all.....

I now have

3 flip key -

2 = 434mhz VW keys
1 = 433.92mhz Seat Alhambra Key

The Seat Alhambra key works fine........and codes fine with the following instructions, but the 434mhz keys won't code AT all..

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

Any help appreciated...

Sparesman? Can you help? I am presuming that 434mhz keys won't work at all!!!!

Im guessing this must now be due to these being HELLA keys and the Seat Alhambra key being a SIEMENS key!

Please help if you can.

If anyone wants to purchase 2 Flip keys! then let me know!

Rich

As far as programming the key i don't know how to do that (except try a dealer or someone with VAGCOM?). IAlso i don't know whether a difference in makers will make a difference. Bear in mind that some of the keys that fit SEAT's were in fact designed originally for VW cars, SEAT just borrowed them. Might be worth starting a fresh thread and ask the questions
But as per my other posts the frequency on your key is irrelevant, the frequencies are the same ie 433.92 MHz, sometimes listed as that, sometimes with the .92 knocked off (ie 433MHz) or sometimes rounded up (ie 434 MHz).

 

[Funkyfin2000]

I have VAG.com but you don't code a key to central locking that way...

as i say my seat alahambra key works fine on it and codes the same way as my mk3 manual says.......

must be just that key that works eh!

Cehers dude!

 

[Chemical Al]

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw-remote-matching.html

 

[SpareMan]

I have VAG.com but you don't code a key to central locking that way...

as i say my seat alahambra key works fine on it and codes the same way as my mk3 manual says.......

must be just that key that works eh!

Cehers dude!

see, told you I don't know how to do it!!

 

[Funkyfin2000]

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw-remote-matching.html

unfortuantly you can't access these modules 35 or 46 on an ibiza mk3!

So how do you find out about the keys in VAG.com!!!

 

[redtill]

Nightmare Managed to break transponder chip from spare key.Now I have 1 spare and 1 flip key that do eveything except the immobiliser.Any Ideas? The transponder is still in the flip key,can I get the dealer to reprogram it for my car or is it a case of once the transponder has been coded to one particular car it can't then be reprogramed for another car?