When you press the lock door button twice...

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dangel said:
Just tried it from my desk :)

Lights flash on button press 1 and 2 - no visible difference..

:-o My light does go out on the second press!! Is it broken?? Does my alarm work at all?? Quick, someone grab a manual...
 

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Maybe it is something to do with the Thatcham 1's or Thatcham 2's. My MY02 Toledo V5 and my old MY01 Cupra both have Thatcham 2's, and the light goes out on the second press like yours Kam. I know the Cupra R is Thatcham 1, so that alarm may work differently. Dangel, you've got a MY03 Cupra haven't you? - has that got a Thatcham 1?
 

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PhilNeo said:
Maybe it is something to do with the Thatcham 1's or Thatcham 2's. My MY02 Toledo V5 and my old MY01 Cupra both have Thatcham 2's, and the light goes out on the second press like yours Kam. I know the Cupra R is Thatcham 1, so that alarm may work differently. Dangel, you've got a MY03 Cupra haven't you? - has that got a Thatcham 1?

MY03 Cupra's are Thatcham 2 only. LCR 225s only are Thatcham1 older LCR210s are Thatcham2

See http://www.thatcham.org/resources/pdfs/compliance.pdf
Note it hasn't been updated with the LCR 225s rating as of yet- the thatcham 1 rating comes from seat uk website.
 
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PhilNeo said:
Maybe it is something to do with the Thatcham 1's or Thatcham 2's. My MY02 Toledo V5 and my old MY01 Cupra both have Thatcham 2's, and the light goes out on the second press like yours Kam. I know the Cupra R is Thatcham 1, so that alarm may work differently. Dangel, you've got a MY03 Cupra haven't you? - has that got a Thatcham 1?

By jove, he might have cracked it!!... :worship:
 

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Here is mine: (all from unlocked position)

one push on the fob-I get 2 clunks (locks+deadlocks?), indicators and red LED.

If I then push my fob again after a few seconds, I get a flash of the indicators but no mechanical noise and no change in the red LED.

Two quick pushes on the fob-I get 1 clunk (locks but no deadlocks?) then if I press fob again I get the second clunk, indicators+Red LED.

I was told by my dealer that 2 quick presses would disable the alarm, and the button inside is for disabling the sensors inside the car (for locking pets/children in the car)
 

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cmc said:
I had a problem with my alarm going off all the time once and I could find no way of disabling it tried everything but still went off (dealer couldn't find a way either which is even more worrying!). So i'm not sure hitting the key fob twice does disbale the alarm.

cmc

I had the same problem one time I hag my LCR at an autoshow and the music form the sound competition kept activating the alarm all the time. I tried several things and found out that if I left the windows opened and lock the car the alarm wouldn´t activate until someone put their arm inside the car or tried to open a door. That worked for me since I had my car right beside me all the time and had no problem that anyone would try to steal something from inside.
 

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sjtscott said:
MY03 Cupra's are Thatcham 2 only. LCR 225s only are Thatcham1 older LCR210s are Thatcham2

How odd. I had always presumed my Leon was thatcham 1. I'm sure the original specs said it was.

More bizarre then that the insurance company insisted that our T reg Beezer GTI had a thatcham 1 alarm and immob fitted or they would not cover it (thatcham 2 wasn't enough)

But they are happy with the Leon R with its thatcham 2 alarm :confused:

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sjtscott said:
MY03 Cupra's are Thatcham 2 only. LCR 225s only are Thatcham1 older LCR210s are Thatcham2

See http://www.thatcham.org/resources/pdfs/compliance.pdf
Note it hasn't been updated with the LCR 225s rating as of yet- the thatcham 1 rating comes from seat uk website.

What makes you think that 210's are thatcham 2 exactly?
The only difference that I'm aware of is that the 225's have a standard tracker.
 

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Syphon said:
How odd. I had always presumed my Leon was thatcham 1. I'm sure the original specs said it was.

More bizarre then that the insurance company insisted that our T reg Beezer GTI had a thatcham 1 alarm and immob fitted or they would not cover it (thatcham 2 wasn't enough)

But they are happy with the Leon R with its thatcham 2 alarm :confused:

Scott

You have to remember that the ratings get revised by them all the time. Note that if you look at certain manufacturer systems they have been delisted according to the list. Essentially they up the anti for what a TC1 or TC2 system must do.
That list is as it currently stands at March 2004.. try and find your Beezer GTI system listed now.
 

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chromeless said:
What makes you think that 210's are thatcham 2 exactly?
The only difference that I'm aware of is that the 225's have a standard tracker.

Have you looked at the PDF??? Thatcham state LCR is TC2 I am probably more likely to believe the document that these guys produce.

At the end of last year seat.co.uk had 2003 and 2004 ratings for all their models.. for 2003 they were all listed as T2.

From Seat UK Website for current 2004 models

INSURANCE GROUPS Group Thatcham Rating
Leon 1.4 S 4 E T2
Leon 1.6 S 6 A T2
Leon 1.6 SX 6 A T1
Leon TDi S 6 A T2
Leon 1.9 TDi SX 7 A T1
Leon 1.8 20V S Auto 8 A T2
Leon 1.8 20V SE 9 D T1
Leon TDi SE 7 A T1
Leon 1.9 TDi PD SE 130 10 D T1
Leon 20V T Cupra 16 D T1
Leon 1.9 TDi Cupra 13 D T1
Leon 20V T Cupra R 17 A T1
 

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I thought I'd read that the second press sets the deadlocks but disables the immobiliser meaning they can get in the car through the open/smashed window and then hotwire the car and drive off.
 

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dangel said:
Just tried it from my desk :)

Lights flash on button press 1 and 2 - no visible difference..

LOL yours is just CAT 2, the LCR's are CAT 1 ;) :D (see ther eare some more differences between LCR's and LC's)

I'll get mee coat :whistle: :hide:
 

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GreyKnight said:
What I don't understand is why if deadlocks exist is there an option to lock the door without using them? Why don't they just engage automatically? ...

Safety eg if there is somebody still in the car then they won't be able to get out unless thru the window; similarly if the car is crashed and ppl unconscious rescuers can still reach in and open doors (this is why some cars have seat belt catches by the door).
 

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This is what it says in my manual (revision 11.00):
p.2.35
"To lock the vehicle, briefly press the close button. The indicators flicker once.

If you press the close button twice, the deadlock mechanism and anti-theft alarm are deactivated and the indicators do not work."

Make of that what you will, no idea if that also applies for later cars esp. LCRS
 

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Right just to add to the confusion.
I just read the manual (one that came with the LCR) and it only mentions using the key to get different types of locking. It states that if the key is turned quickly twice to the locking position then only the "simple locking mechanism" is active. This means that the alarm and "double lock" (deadlock?)are not active. Now as to whether this is the case with the remote I am not sure. :blink: :blink:
I think the idea of just simple locking is that if you want to leave kids/dogs etc in the car but still lock the doors. Either way I shall be only pressing the button once.
 

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225 said:
Right just to add to the confusion.
I just read the manual (one that came with the LCR) and it only mentions using the key to get different types of locking. It states that if the key is turned quickly twice to the locking position then only the "simple locking mechanism" is active. This means that the alarm and "double lock" (deadlock?)are not active. Now as to whether this is the case with the remote I am not sure. :blink: :blink:
I think the idea of just simple locking is that if you want to leave kids/dogs etc in the car but still lock the doors. Either way I shall be only pressing the button once.

Ditto for me. Bought mine in June 03 can't remember what version manual it is. However isn't the manual a generic 'Leon Cupra' manual? Any differences noted in a seperate (very thin) Cupra R booklet - no mention of door locking mechanism from memory. :blink:
 

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right here we go
i use this function after cleaning the interior to let moisture our
close the door with all the windows down outside my house
pushe the button twice car is alarmed volumetric is switched off from out side the car volumetric switch on the inside only works when all doors are closed i.e. lady in car at night waiting for me to come back from petrol station kiosk, she pushes the volumetric button so the doors are locked the alarm is on (should they attempt to fore it open it would go off) but volumetric is off. BTW this is a scenario of example and not a real scenario
 
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