Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

[Stretch]

Step 9. of the workaround people inthe past copy all files over rather than just that individual file. Possible not your case.

Advised not to reformat these cards. The cluster size should be 4096 and Fat32. In the past people reformat, get that wrong so it won't read the card in the unit. Some versions of Windows have been known to corrupt the CID part of the card. Early versions of Windows 11 where the cluster size got changed in the reformat. You just need to highlight the files and delete.

Attached is the VW manual on the file processing but you do need the workaround file copy. It won't work without. This just frigs the mapcare which was included with VW and Skoda but not Seat. Never sold in the UK hence the workaround.

Left side slot should be used for the map card.

Workaround

Using a PC or a MAC ?

PC: 7 Zip is the preferred VW tool, other unzip tool including those built into Windows, can cause difficulties.

7 zip can be obtained from

https://www.7-zip.org/download.html

MAC: VW instructions

"ATTENTION

If the map update is performed using the Apple® OS X operating system you may find that
Discover Media does not recognise the map material or displays it incorrectly. This is due to
a lack of compatibility between the “7 zip” program and the OS-X operating system. In
addition, the OS-X operating system has a tendency to create hidden additional files on
external data media. We therefore recommend that OS X users use the “Keka” unzipping
program. We also recommend using the “CleanMyDrive” program to remove any hidden files."

If a MAC is used CleanMyDrive is run against the SD card after the maps are copied across to the SD card.

Having identified which unzipping tool is required and special Mac SD card cleaning required... free to proceed.

Steps:

1. Download the latest standard MIB2 maps
2. on the infotainment go to settings, safely remove, sd1 card
3. remove sd1 card from glove box slot
4. long press on the on / off to reboot it a couple of times
5. insert sd card in to computer
6. copy and paste all contents to a directory on your computer
7. Format the SD card keep it as fat32 and leave format settings as default in file explorer (don't forget to push the card lock mechanism to off) (ditto in a MAC or delete all from the SD card)
8. Copy the new downloaded map version to the SD card (after unzipping it)
9. Replace /maps/EEC/EEC_WLD/OVERALL.NDS on the SD CARD with the one from the original SD card
10. eject the sd card (on a MAC run CleanMyDrive on the SD card - then eject)
11. Inserted the card into the card 1 slot in glove box whilst infotainment is off
12. power on and go to navigation

The unit should then boot up into navigation. Note it does take a little longer first time round. If it refuses to boot up, press the volume button forcing a reboot, hold down until the unit reboots. If this fails it will be issues on the overall.nds file / copy issues. Revisit the process. Failing this restore the back up.

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The other possibility is someone has let rip with the unit with the mib2 standard toolkit and made a hash of the FeCs in the unit. By far the easiest is to use the workaround to update the maps not get into technically modding the unit.

Thanks for the response. Can confirm that I followed all steps as listed above, so only copied over the overall.nds file, didn't format the card and instead just deleted and re-copied new files, didn't use Windows 11 as have Windows 10.

I'll have another go at copying the map files and the V1 overall.nds file. To confirm, are these the only files that should be on the SD, just the maps folder and files included and then the overall.nds file in the specified directory? Or should the root directory contain anything else in addition to maps?

Thanks.

 

[cairus]

Wich Year is the Car?

 

[Stretch]

Wich Year is the Car?

2019, Cupra 290 if it matters.

 

[cairus]

For me, only an NDS file from the year the car was built worked. Or patch it with the Tool Box.

 

[Tell]

Ah well that one may not require the mapcare mod. There were 2019 models... the last off the mib2 standard line up that Seat gave up with mapcare....

I'll edit in what you need to do here to check.

 

[Stretch]

For me, only an NDS file from the year the car was built worked. Or patch it with the Tool Box.

Okay thanks will give this a go too. Haven't had any experience with the Toolbox so will stay away unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Tell]

Ok this is how to test where you already have life time FeCs.

How do I update satnav 2019 Leon

Please , can someone kind folk advise on how to update my satnav map in a 2019 Leon. Having googled this,it clear that several models and codes and whatnot prevail. I have NO IDEA what to do🥺 I'm a 57 yrs guy sat in the seat and wondering what I've got and how to update it Can one of the...

www.seatcupra.net

If it's 074 and finishes in EE. Then lifetime FeC so the card should work without doing anything. If mid2 standard without that, then it's the workaround.

 

[Stretch]

Ah well that one may not require the mapcare mod. There were 2019 models... the last off the mib2 standard line up that Seat gave up with mapcare....

I'll edit in what you need to do here to check.

Ok this is how to test where you already have life time FeCs.

How do I update satnav 2019 Leon

Please , can someone kind folk advise on how to update my satnav map in a 2019 Leon. Having googled this,it clear that several models and codes and whatnot prevail. I have NO IDEA what to do🥺 I'm a 57 yrs guy sat in the seat and wondering what I've got and how to update it Can one of the...

www.seatcupra.net

If it's 074 and finishes in EE. Then lifetime FeC so the card should work without doing anything. If mid2 standard without that, then it's the workaround.

Great thanks I'll have a look at that and see if it makes a difference.

Update: the only code I have that might relate to this is 074d0012, unsure if this is the right one but it's the only one in the list that I can see would be related?

Does that mean using the map file for 2023 as this is the last version supported?

 

[Tell]

Great thanks I'll have a look at that and see if it makes a difference.

Update: the only code I have that might relate to this is 074d0012, unsure if this is the right one but it's the only one in the list that I can see would be related?

Does that mean using the map file for 2023 as this is the last version supported?

Well 074d0012 means you need to use the workaround. It isn't one of the last units that went out with lifetime mapcare. There are some out there. You put the 2023 maps on the card and do the workaround. Copy that file across accepting it's 4096, Fat32 and the cards not messed up.

 

[Westindieman]

An update in regards to my corrupted MIB1 card. I bought a replacement off Ebay for £20 which works in my system, then I made a backup of the card using Aomei, then formatted my currupt card and used Aomei again to put the image on that formatted card, it worked and that card works in the car too! I wasnt expecting that. Doesnt that also mean you could use any SD card if it has the capacity?
If anyone needs the image (part number 5F0060884BG) and tells me how to share it I can

 

[Westindieman]

It should be OK. The CID on mib2 cards is fine for mib1. So yes. Europe 1 means it's a 16gb card... that's the zone Europe 1 in mib2 form. Mib1 cards are 8gb... the maps expand to need 16gb or you have to hack them. Mib2 that expanded to 32gb cards but packaged into zones.

Why I recommend keeping your existing card intact as a back up and using the 16 or 32 gb card as a new one. When you switch map cards in the units you do need to hold the on / off button for a few seconds to force a reboot else the unit holds the parameters read off the old card if the card swap is shorter than 20 minutes.

Ps note I did an edit to the post you replied to... mib1 used 8gb cards... 2023 maps in mib1 need a 16 or 32 gb mib2 card to use for the CID or you hack down the 2023 maps to fit. Getting last when I typed that.

Ive just been reading back through the posts, if as I have demonstrated that a working image can be used on a formatted card (which was previously an MIB 1 card) do you think I should be able to just buy a 64GB SD SDXC Class 4 card and put my image on with the updated maps instead of getting a MIB2 card?

 

[Tell]

Ive just been reading back through the posts, if as I have demonstrated that a working image can be used on a formatted card (which was previously an MIB 1 card) do you think I should be able to just buy a 64GB SD SDXC Class 4 card and put my image on with the updated maps instead of getting a MIB2 card?

Answer is no. It needs the Vag CID that's on the mib2 card. Mib1 units read that. A cheap 16gb mib2 card will do. On ebay you find fairly old ones or buy a new one. You'll see people did that. You just have to look at the eBay ratings and decide whether they are reliable.

The CID is generally hidden from the Windows files system but not from Linux but the card reader has to be connected to the board. Rewritable SD cards are generally more expensive than a Vag cards since the CID on them isn't rewriteable.

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CID security was put in as a way of copy protection to get income of maps sold or software. Hence VAG gets an income stream off the cards sold.

I have written the CID in the past but given a £40 rewriteable CID card is more expensive then a Vag cards it's a false economy.