Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

[Tell]

If you do not have mapcare on your car and update data in sd card without backing it up, you will lose navigation function! So guys please do not attempt to update navigation if you do not have mapcare option on your car!

You just replied to a 2013 post or so on the thread. Your two sentences don't hang together. The last sentence isn't required. If you back up the card you can always restore to where you started from. Even if it's the Mib2 High you just need to restore the map from a download file for where you started off or before. If it's Mib2 Standard even if you haven't backed up and you know the release you can download that and get back to where you came from. All of this has been proven. Saying that there isn't much point with fiddling with Mib1 since success isn't there. The mib2 standard work around was published on this thread by Exciter in January 2017 and that's what you see republished across the net.

Mapcare isn't provided in the UK and Seat haven't addressed all the negative publicity of high cost map updates whilst the other VAG brands in the UK waiver Mapcare so don't even seek to generate an income from it. Elsewhere in Europe the VW and Skoda brands no longer seek an income from Mapcare. Ditto America and Australian markets.

Here Maps is jointly owned by the VAG group, BMW etc. So they own the license to do what they want. The more recent releases of the maps has been put out to TomTom for preparation of Here Maps data which is why the releases in the standard form have been more problematic. TomTom is due for a takeover which is probably why VAG is putting map preparation out to them.

 

[Ian Gee]

This is what I have.

This is what I have.

Lancashire Lad, I've exactly the same system, did you work out how to update or what best to do? theses threads tend to get convoluted with no real links to a useful solution.

 

[Tell]

Lancashire Lad, I've exactly the same system, did you work out how to update or what best to do? theses threads tend to get convoluted with no real links to a useful solution.

He's waiting for SteveFR to say whether he coughed up for the SD Mib1 card to be installed via ODIS which he would have done if he wanted it to work. There is the Slovak guy on the thread, the jolly rogers type, that was offering to take the units for a price wouldn't say the process except he re-programmed the unit. If it isn't a Mib2 Standard then anything else isn't DIY if you don't get the unit reprogrammed or cough up for ODIS installation - the latter is the way the system is designed to work if you haven't got Mapcare that isn't sold in the UK in anycase.

Short term official DIY Mib2 standard updates are supported by Seat dealers in the UK via a new card for the first year. That can appear as build code:

77Q VWGROUP CDR SD card (Europe), map updates for 1 year

That's how people get given a replacement card and carry out the procedure... other procedure appear higher in the thread for older Mib2 standards.

Pre Mib1 there is a solution based around a torrent download, an activation process and someone using their spare time to load up the more recent maps. You see that one about on the net.

After 5 years the thread may well be convoluted but it's pretty simple thou .

 

[SteveFR]

So you have to pay £100 + labour costs?

Yup, cost £36 to get the SD card installed.

As my previous ones were 5 years out of date and Waze has occasionally sent me along some strange routes, it’s nice having all the new local roads at my fingertips again and this map pack should last me a couple of years... by which time I’ll hopefully have a newer car with an Infotainment system that I can update myself.

 

[Ian Gee]

Yup, cost £36 to get the SD card installed.

As my previous ones were 5 years out of date and Waze has occasionally sent me along some strange routes, it’s nice having all the new local roads at my fingertips again and this map pack should last me a couple of years... by which time I’ll hopefully have a newer car with an Infotainment system that I can update myself.

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Steve I'll be interested to see if they can activate the V13 card and if its any good, I've been told it has issues and a V14 is just about to be released, the person that told me was from a garage that sells Seat cars (since 1995) rather than a dealership, seemed honest and upfront with me.

 

[Tell]

Steve I'll be interested to see if they can activate the V13 card and if its any good, I've been told it has issues and a V14 is just about to be released, the person that told me was from a garage that sells Seat cars (since 1995) rather than a dealership, seemed honest and upfront with me.

By deductions those Mib1 Standard SD cards are released once per year so V14 will be the 2019 one which is already available for those with mapcare. This site doesnt list it yet:

https://www.seataccesoriescatalogue.net/de/searchresults/searchresults

Under the search

Seat Media System Standard Mib1 Europa (V14)

But does list V12 and V13.

With ODIS they would be able to activate it. That's the process.

PS I'm intrigued as to whether Seat are shipping Mib2 standard with 2019... we'll find out next week if not the Mib2 standard workaround . Will do an error check beforehand to see what the process introduces.

 

[Lancashire Lad]

By deductions those Mib1 Standard SD cards are released once per year so V14 will be the 2019 one which is already available for those with mapcare. This site doesnt list it yet:

https://www.seataccesoriescatalogue.net/de/searchresults/searchresults

Under the search

Seat Media System Standard Mib1 Europa (V14)

But does list V12 and V13.

With ODIS they would be able to activate it. That's the process.

PS I'm intrigued as to whether Seat are shipping Mib2 standard with 2019... we'll find out next week if not the Mib2 standard workaround . Will do an error check beforehand to see what the process introduces.

This is good to know. I just wish they included speed cameras like EVERY other sat nav I've ever used.

 

[Tell]

This is good to know. I just wish they included speed cameras like EVERY other sat nav I've ever used.

You can side load them together with your own destinations using POInspect0r:

https://forums.seatcupra.net/index....f-woe-vw-pulled-the-update-site-again.444799/

I use Pocket GPS World as the source although there are free sources.

Or there are commercial ones which are popular on the continent but don't have the option of loading up your own POIs like POInspect0r above. That program can be used in place of the pulled VW site for POI Import.

Here Maps have started collecting speed camera POIs via crowd sourcing but not sure how long that will take for them to build up the database and get the reliability. The GPS World ones can have a lot of duff data in although you can report those if you wish. That I think is due to subscription being provided for a year free if validated. Then two people work together to scam it and you end up with duff data. Thats my theory on the fantasy cameras in GPS World.

 

[Maypack]

The GPS World ones can have a lot of duff data in although you can report those if you wish. That I think is due to subscription being provided for a year free if validated. Then two people work together to scam it and you end up with duff data. Thats my theory on the fantasy cameras in GPS World.

I tend to agree with this. I use The same Camera Alerts and have noticed there are a large amount of cameras that are never actually seen. I’ve just become accustomed to treating all cameras as being there until I e confirmed myself they aren’t there.

 

[Lancashire Lad]

You can side load them together with your own destinations using POInspect0r:

https://forums.seatcupra.net/index....f-woe-vw-pulled-the-update-site-again.444799/

I use Pocket GPS World as the source although there are free sources.

Or there are commercial ones which are popular on the continent but don't have the option of loading up your own POIs like POInspect0r above. That program can be used in place of the pulled VW site for POI Import.

Here Maps have started collecting speed camera POIs via crowd sourcing but not sure how long that will take for them to build up the database and get the reliability. The GPS World ones can have a lot of duff data in although you can report those if you wish. That I think is due to subscription being provided for a year free if validated. Then two people work together to scam it and you end up with duff data. Thats my theory on the fantasy cameras in GPS World.

Isn't that for mib2 though? I thought that wouldn't be possible on mib1.

 

[Tell]

Isn't that for mib2 though? I thought that wouldn't be possible on mib1.

No the guy who wrote POInspect0r wrote it first for the RNS510 precursor of Mib1 (I think), then he adapted it for Mib1, then December 2017 released it for Mib2 / Mib2 High. When I came along in 2018 to use it the Mib2 High version it wasnt working since it hadnt been tested to well. I got that sorted with him and at the same time he cracked it to work with Mib 2.5. The bug he'd got with the high version stopped the Mib 2.5 High from working in his own new Skoda .

On Skoda and VW Mib2.5 they expect you to use the online Car Net / Skoda connect to import POIs, audio warning isn't supported via that method. Only supported via SD / USB import but since VW pulled the website they were not supporting it. The commercial speedcamera sites were minting it in since they had cracked the import format for mib2.5. Since Seat aren't good with connected stuff users have been protected from this....

It does RN510, Mib1 Standard and High, Mib2 Standard and High and 2.5 now. You toggle what you want to output.

RNS510 has different icon sizes to Mib so you populate it with the correct icons else in Mib they have a bit missing off them. In the link I covered taking your old VW Mib generated output icons and using them, saves resizing them. It is is a hobbyist program but it does the job and a job that VW has now withdrawn. Since it was a bit clunky I documented it . It's only clunky since it does so much thou. Once set up its easy to use.

 

[Maypack]

@Tell, I’m getting stupid error messages when using POInspect0r at the moment. It doesn’t stop anything from being created but it’s annoying as it’s just recently started to happen.

 

[Tell]

@Tell, I’m getting stupid error messages when using POInspect0r at the moment. It doesn’t stop anything from being created but it’s annoying as it’s just recently started to happen.

Is that Google asking whether you are a developer and greying out the map ignore it. All third party users of Google Map api are getting this. Google wants all those developers credit cards to charge them for use of their Map services if they exceed so many tiles. Google may give in at some stage. Some developers have switched to Openstreet maps. BikeHike is one.

I haven't updated my POInspect0r so I haven't checked whether he has done it or not. It does however happily work with the Google income generation warning screen. You just can't see the POIs in his app which was just an added bonus when importing them.

 

[Bart300]

Hi All,
Please forgive me my ignorance but i have spend few hours going through the post but now I think I am stupid.

I have tried to update my satnav data as per instructions.
I do have a 2018 Leon with High system (photo attached). Downloaded file as per seat web with new maps.
As per Tell post #1423 (love statement that thread is convoluted but simple) using 7zip all files were extracted into the FAT32 sd card.

Card was locked and loaded into the car.
Message was shown that update is available.

And now the tricky bit. It doesn't matter do I use slot 1 or 2 and do I use Navigation - >settings->information or vehicle - >system information when I pres for update system start searching for updates and ends up with error that no updates has been found.

All pictures attached.

Do I need anything extra or doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Bart

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[Walone]

Hi All,
Please forgive me my ignorance but i have spend few hours going through the post but now I think I am stupid.

I have tried to update my satnav data as per instructions.
I do have a 2018 Leon with High system (photo attached). Downloaded file as per seat web with new maps.
As per Tell post #1423 (love statement that thread is convoluted but simple) using 7zip all files were extracted into the FAT32 sd card.

Card was locked and loaded into the car.
Message was shown that update is available.

And now the tricky bit. It doesn't matter do I use slot 1 or 2 and do I use Navigation - >settings->information or vehicle - >system information when I pres for update system start searching for updates and ends up with error that no updates has been found.

All pictures attached.

Do I need anything extra or doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Bart

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The nav high unit can't be updated by the user without Mapcare unless you have the unit 'modified'.

 

[kickdown]

Hi All,
Please forgive me my ignorance but i have spend few hours going through the post but now I think I am stupid.

I have tried to update my satnav data as per instructions.
I do have a 2018 Leon with High system (photo attached). Downloaded file as per seat web with new maps.
As per Tell post #1423 (love statement that thread is convoluted but simple) using 7zip all files were extracted into the FAT32 sd card.

Card was locked and loaded into the car.
Message was shown that update is available.

And now the tricky bit. It doesn't matter do I use slot 1 or 2 and do I use Navigation - >settings->information or vehicle - >system information when I pres for update system start searching for updates and ends up with error that no updates has been found.

All pictures attached.

Do I need anything extra or doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Bart

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Have you paid for Map Care update services?

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[Bart300]

The nav high unit can't be updated by the user without Mapcare unless you have the unit 'modified'.

Thanks,
Looks like this solve the problem.
When I purchased the car this option was not proposed to me.
So the simple answer is: No.

I will have to start reading the thread again about Map Care modifications

 

[kickdown]

Thanks,
Looks like this solve the problem.
When I purchased the car this option was not proposed to me.
So the simple answer is: No.

I will have to start reading the thread again about Map Care modifications

There are guys selling 3 years subscriptions for 180-200£.


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[Bart300]

Thanks kickdown.
Will look at this

 

[kickdown]

Thanks kickdown.
Will look at this

Just PM-ed you.

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