Things I have discovered about the car.

[Skidew]

It only happens in UK, when car is not able to read road signs. Known issue with ACC in UK. As I mentioned in other thread, you can drive on the same road, but depending on where you join it, car can behave differently. I'm pretty sure, I will encounter it today driving East on M25, because there are no signs where I join it.

Mine often sets the speed limit to 110mph (not even 110kph) on the motorway and I have to reign it in if it's in travel assist set to follow the speed limit

 

[Peyton]

Today I found out that Offroad mode is programmable. I thought that it is a predefined mode like Comfort, Sport and Cupra but no, it is programable just like Individual. Not sure if there are more differences than that, I could see that there is a "Offroad" setting for 4WD but other than that looked like normal settings.

Does anyone know what offroad setting for 4wd means?

 

[AndyCupra93]

Today I found out that Offroad mode is programmable. I thought that it is a predefined mode like Comfort, Sport and Cupra but no, it is programable just like Individual. Not sure if there are more differences than that, I could see that there is a "Offroad" setting for 4WD but other than that looked like normal settings.

Does anyone know what offroad setting for 4wd means?

Would assume it behaves like a locked diff for the front and rear axles?

 

[Peyton]

Would assume it behaves like a locked diff for the front and rear axles?

I doubt that they can lock the diff. My guess was that it may put power to the rear wheels more often (or perhaps all the time).

 

[AndyCupra93]

I doubt that they can lock the diff. My guess was that it may put power to the rear wheels more often (or perhaps all the time).

Certainly not an actual diff lock, but might it use the TVBB (torque vector by brake) system to mimic one?

 

[EuKiwi]

It only happens in UK, when car is not able to read road signs. Known issue with ACC in UK. As I mentioned in other thread, you can drive on the same road, but depending on where you join it, car can behave differently. I'm pretty sure, I will encounter it today driving East on M25, because there are no signs where I join it.

Bloody annoying...

I'm guessing that, because these are off-the-shelf ACC systems it's an industry-wide problem?

 

[AndyCupra93]

Bloody annoying...

I'm guessing that, because these are off-the-shelf ACC systems it's an industry-wide problem?

VAG-wide, I imagine. Other marque groups likely use their own systems.


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[EuKiwi]

VAG-wide, I imagine. Other marque groups likely use their own systems.


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It's a Bosch system though I think, so it's entirely possible the underlying framework of the tech is used for more than one customer. No car manufacturer actually develops their own - even Tesla's is only partially developed in-house.

 

[bigcarpchaser]

The speed camera recognition worked fine in my Merc. That was 6 years old when I got it so the tech was older.
I’d say it’s just crap programming and even crappier testing and implementation.
Should be the sort of thing that an over the air update should sort IMO and quickly.
A pretty fundamental “bug” for us beta testers tolerate!!


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[Cupradev]

I would never have the car set my speed by road signs. Too many mistakes. There’s a slip road on the M60 where they have a temp 50mph speed limit. The car picks this up everyday as I continue on the M60, so would be slowing me down in the fast lane for no reason if it had the chance. Also I find that if I have the ACC set to say 70 and come up behind a slower car say 55 in the slow lane, if I have to sit behind it before a can pull out due to heavy traffic, when I find a gap and move right, it takes the car an age to accelerate back up to 70. Anyone else had this? Is it configurable in settings? On a busy motorway it just scares the life out of me.

 

[Deleted member 131219]

I would never have the car set my speed by road signs. Too many mistakes. There’s a slip road on the M60 where they have a temp 50mph speed limit. The car picks this up everyday as I continue on the M60, so would be slowing me down in the fast lane for no reason if it had the chance. Also I find that if I have the ACC set to say 70 and come up behind a slower car say 55 in the slow lane, if I have to sit behind it before a can pull out due to heavy traffic, when I find a gap and move right, it takes the car an age to accelerate back up to 70. Anyone else had this? Is it configurable in settings? On a busy motorway it just scares the life out of me.

I think that’s a situation you take control of yourself by overriding the ACC and putting your foot down.

 

[EuKiwi]

I would never have the car set my speed by road signs. Too many mistakes. There’s a slip road on the M60 where they have a temp 50mph speed limit. The car picks this up everyday as I continue on the M60, so would be slowing me down in the fast lane for no reason if it had the chance. Also I find that if I have the ACC set to say 70 and come up behind a slower car say 55 in the slow lane, if I have to sit behind it before a can pull out due to heavy traffic, when I find a gap and move right, it takes the car an age to accelerate back up to 70. Anyone else had this? Is it configurable in settings? On a busy motorway it just scares the life out of me.

I just have mine display the limit only... Don't want it setting speed for me.

Don't have the same issue when pulling out, mine seems to accelerate before I've even fully changed lane...

 

[Agnes.Surrey]

I would never have the car set my speed by road signs. Too many mistakes. There’s a slip road on the M60 where they have a temp 50mph speed limit. The car picks this up everyday as I continue on the M60, so would be slowing me down in the fast lane for no reason if it had the chance. Also I find that if I have the ACC set to say 70 and come up behind a slower car say 55 in the slow lane, if I have to sit behind it before a can pull out due to heavy traffic, when I find a gap and move right, it takes the car an age to accelerate back up to 70. Anyone else had this? Is it configurable in settings? On a busy motorway it just scares the life out of me.

When using ACC, accelaration depends on the mode you're driving. In Comfort it's painfully slow, in Cupra it's too keen. I setup Individual mode with Sport for ACC and it's just right.

 

[Ricknffc]

Just been say behind a Ferrari portofino getting up his backside wanting him to have a play with me on single carriageways. Anyway he eventually got the hint and we went off together and I will tell you what he wasn't exactly pulling away. Now I'm not for one second saying the Formentor is as quick as and obviously there are the laws of the road to abide by cough cough and we aren't on a race track, and he may have been taking it half heartedly to humour me ha but I bet he was thinking " what is that behind me, and why can't I shake it off?"

 

[AndyCupra93]

I just have mine display the limit only... Don't want it setting speed for me.

Don't have the same issue when pulling out, mine seems to accelerate before I've even fully changed lane...

Yeah the system accelerates right after you indicate, on the assumption you’re changing lane. I don’t know how long they override the radar for though (what happens if you indicate and never change lane behind a slower vehicle?).

 

[Peyton]

The speed camera recognition worked fine in my Merc. That was 6 years old when I got it so the tech was older.
I’d say it’s just crap programming and even crappier testing and implementation.
Should be the sort of thing that an over the air update should sort IMO and quickly.
A pretty fundamental “bug” for us beta testers tolerate!!


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It works fine in continental Europe. I think that the problem is that when the system isn't able to properly read the signs, it falls back to the defaults and these are in kilometers per hour (probably from the satnav).

 

[Cupradev]

When using ACC, accelaration depends on the mode you're driving. In Comfort it's painfully slow, in Cupra it's too keen. I setup Individual mode with Sport for ACC and it's just right.

Now that Is a helpful response. Many thanks Agnes, much appreciated.
still haven’t seen any White Formentors up here. Rare beasties.

 

[Agnes.Surrey]

There might be a way to stop Formentor braking when reversing. I checked settings when reversing and found a few options there and switched them off.

I had Manoeuvre braking switched on. Can't test it unfortunately, don't have any soft things or plants I can reverse into.

 

[Stonepope]

There might be a way to stop Formentor braking when reversing. I checked settings when reversing and found a few options there and switched them off.

I had Manoeuvre braking switched on. Can't test it unfortunately, don't have any soft things or plants I can reverse into.

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Yep, that's the one Agnes. Worked in my previous Golf

 

[EuKiwi]

Yep, that's the one Agnes. Worked in my previous Golf

One small observation on this point - the auto-brake function once saved me a LOT of hassle. I had a rental Golf for a while whilst waiting for my work lease car, and one night I went to my car, hopped in, and reversed back - the car screeched to a halt. I got out and found that right behind where I was parked, some idiot and parked parallel against he wall. I was a really dark night with zero lighting at all and so I had simply missed it, and I would have ploughed straight into the side of it.

Since then, I'm a fan of the auto-braking function.