some more logs

Jul 29, 2006
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BP ultimate is best i can get around here:(
I suppose octane booster is only other option is it as far as fuel is concerned?
FMIC on cards for install this weekend so that should see the temps tumble.
 

DPJ

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Dec 13, 2004
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CFs touching the high side, but intake temps quite high also. Duty cycle and load factor suggest to me it's pulling back slightly. Lets see the logs after you've fitted your FMIC. If you're still getting higher CFs, can you please also log 002 and 114 together?
 

james walker

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May 24, 2007
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think the other daves seen is me with cfs and wills map.

mine reduced with lower inlet temps, and the addition of millers octane to 97ron.

i still see upto 6 on cylinder 4 and lower on others.


im sure its nothing to do with the map mind.....
 
Jul 29, 2006
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First logs with new FMIC

Just been out and done some logging,car feels slightly hesitant up to about 2500,then it goes well......i think,anyhow what's the numbers like?
Code:
Sunday	1	August	2010	19:22:29:16096	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0	Data version: 20100630					
06A 906 032 MJ		1.8L R4/5VT         0003									
											
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'114				
		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Injection	Intake Air Mass		Engine Load	Engine Load	Engine Load	Charge Pressure	
	TIME			Timing		TIME	(specified)	(spec. corrected)	(actual Value)	Solenoid Valve	TIME
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 %	 %	 %	 %	STAMP
	0.24	2560	130.8	14.28	71	0.55	155.6	155.2	147.4	95.3	
	0.85	2720	164.7	15.3	92.14	1.15	155.6	153.7	180.5	95.3	
	1.45	2920	191	18.02	114.28	1.75	155.6	153.7	191.7	83.9	
	2.05	3120	188.7	19.04	105.47	2.36	155.6	153.7	175.2	81.2	
	2.66	3320	182.7	17.68	119.28	2.96	155.6	155.2	178.2	78.4	
	3.26	3520	172.2	16.66	113.86	3.56	156.4	155.2	169.2	78	
	3.86	3680	175.2	17	129.86	4.17	157.1	155.2	177.4	93.7	
	4.47	3880	180.5	17.68	133.53	4.77	157.9	156.7	183.5	79.6	
	5.07	4040	186.5	18.02	144.19	5.37	157.1	156.7	182.7	81.2	
	5.68	4240	178.2	17.34	144.36	5.98	156.4	155.2	178.9	81.6	
	6.29	4400	178.2	18.36	148.47	6.58	155.6	153.7	175.9	81.6	
	6.88	4560	175.9	18.02	154.44	7.18	154.9	153.7	174.4	82.4	
	7.5	4680	173.7	18.36	155.28	7.79	154.9	153.7	175.2	83.5	
	8.09	4840	175.9	19.04	162.28	8.39	154.1	152.2	172.2	83.9	
	8.7	4960	173.7	19.38	165.78	8.99	152.6	150.7	175.9	83.1	
	9.31	5120	171.4	19.38	166.75	9.6	151.1	149.3	167.7	82.7	
	9.91	5240	169.2	19.38	168.89	10.21	148.9	147.8	170.7	82.7	
	10.51	5360	167.7	19.38	171.83	10.81	146.6	144.8	166.2	83.9	
	11.12	5520	166.2	18.7	178.17	11.42	145.1	143.3	166.2	85.5	
	11.72	5640	165.4	21.08	177.89	12.02	143.6	141.8	163.9	86.7	
	12.31	5720	163.2	20.74	180.69	12.62	142.9	140.3	161.7	85.9	
	12.93	5840	161.7	20.4	180.69	13.23	141.4	138.8	160.9	84.7	
	13.52	5960	160.9	20.74	181.25	13.83	139.8	138.8	157.9	85.1	
	14.12	6040	157.9	20.4	181.53	14.43	138.3	135.8	157.1	86.3	
	14.73	6160	155.6	20.06	184.36	15.03	136.8	134.3	155.6	87.1	
	15.33	6240	155.6	20.06	184.42	15.64	134.6	132.8	153.4	87.1	
	15.94	6320	153.4	19.72	185.5	16.23	133.8	131.3	151.9	85.5	
	16.54	6400	150.4	19.38	184.36	16.85	132.3	129.9	148.9	82.7	
	17.14	6480	148.9	19.38	182.67	17.45	132.3	129.9	145.1	0

Code:
Sunday	1	August	2010	19:24:36:16096	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0	Data version: 20100630				
06A 906 032 MJ		1.8L R4/5VT         0003								
										
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
		Engine Speed	Intake Air Mass	Throttle Drive	Ignition		Cylinder 1 Ignition	Cylinder 2 Ignition	Cylinder 3 Ignition	Cylinder 4 Ignition
	TIME			Angle Sensor 1	Timing Angle	TIME	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW
	0.3	2440	73.28	100	9.8	0.01	0	0	0	0
	0.91	2560	87.11	99.2	7.5	0.6	0	0	0	0
	1.51	2760	103.31	100	9	1.21	0	0	0	0
	2.11	2960	101.81	100	9.8	1.81	0	0	0	3
	2.72	3120	116.19	99.6	10.5	2.41	0	0	3	3
	3.32	3280	111.08	100	8.3	3.02	0	0	3	3
	3.92	3440	116.56	100	8.3	3.62	0	0	3	2.3
	4.53	3600	120.28	100	9.8	4.22	0	0	2.3	2.3
	5.13	3760	127.19	100	12.8	4.83	0	0	2.3	2.3
	5.73	3920	134	100	9.8	5.43	0	0	2.3	1.5
	6.34	4080	146.86	100	12	6.03	0	3	2.3	4.5
	6.94	4240	141.03	100	12	6.64	3	3	1.5	4.5
	7.54	4400	153.03	100	12	7.25	3	3	1.5	4.5
	8.15	4560	151.81	100	12	7.86	3	3	1.5	3.8
	8.75	4720	158.83	100	14.3	8.45	2.3	2.3	0.8	3.8
	9.36	4840	157.81	100	16.5	9.05	5.3	2.3	0.8	3.8
	9.97	5000	164.03	100	18	9.66	5.3	2.3	0.8	3.8
	10.56	5120	165.33	99.2	15	10.26	5.3	1.5	0.8	3
	11.17	5240	169.14	99.2	15	10.86	4.5	1.5	3	3
	11.78	5360	171.36	99.2	15.8	11.47	4.5	1.5	3	3
	12.38	5480	171.31	99.6	14.3	12.08	4.5	4.5	6	2.3
	12.98	5600	176.36	100	15	12.67	4.5	4.5	6	2.3
	13.59	5720	180.11	99.2	17.3	13.29	3.8	4.5	6	2.3
	14.19	5840	175.94	100	18.8	13.89	3.8	3.8	6	2.3
	14.79	5920	180.39	99.6	21	14.49	3.8	3.8	5.3	1.5
	15.39	6000	180.69	100	18	15.09	3.8	3.8	5.3	1.5
	15.99	6120	183.5	100	18	15.7	3	3.8	5.3	1.5
	16.6	6200	181.58	100	24.8	16.3	3	3	4.5	1.5
	17.21	6320	182.94	100	19.5	16.91	3	3	4.5	0.8
	17.81	6400	184.06	100	22.5	17.51	3	3	4.5	0.8
	18.42	6480	181.25	100	20.3	18.11	2.3	3	4.5	3.8

Code:
Sunday	1	August	2010	19:27:00:16096	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0	Data version: 20100630		
06A 906 032 MJ		1.8L R4/5VT         0003						
								
	Group A:	'115				Group B:	'031	
		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Lambda Sensor	Lambda Sensor
	TIME			(specified Value)	(actual Value)	TIME	Current Value	Specified Value
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP		
	0.3	2680	124.8	2070	1340	0.01	0.844	1
	0.91	2840	169.9	2100	1810	0.6	0.867	1
	1.51	3040	191.7	2080	2210	1.21	0.969	0.961
	2.11	3280	177.4	2020	1980	1.81	0.977	0.945
	2.72	3480	188	1970	2030	2.41	0.938	0.945
	3.32	3680	173.7	1990	1910	3.02	0.961	0.945
	3.92	3880	179.7	2010	1990	3.63	0.922	0.922
	4.53	4040	185	2020	2040	4.22	0.906	0.914
	5.13	4240	178.9	2000	1970	4.83	0.906	0.906
	5.73	4440	182.7	1970	2000	5.43	0.875	0.899
	6.35	4600	178.2	1940	1940	6.03	0.891	0.891
	6.94	4760	176.7	1920	1910	6.64	0.875	0.875
	7.55	4920	173.7	1900	1860	7.25	0.836	0.844
	8.15	5040	172.2	1880	1850	7.85	0.821	0.828
	8.75	5160	170.7	1850	1850	8.45	0.805	0.813
	9.35	5320	166.9	1830	1830	9.05	0.805	0.805
	9.97	5440	166.9	1810	1830	9.67	0.789	0.797
	10.56	5560	162.4	1790	1790	10.26	0.774	0.789
	11.17	5680	165.4	1780	1770	10.87	0.75	0.774
	11.78	5800	163.9	1760	1760	11.47	0.75	0.766
	12.38	5880	158.6	1750	1740	12.07	0.75	0.766
	12.99	6000	157.1	1730	1740	12.67	0.75	0.766
	13.59	6120	156.4	1720	1750	13.28	0.75	0.758
	14.18	6200	151.9	1720	1710	13.89	0.75	0.766
	14.79	6280	151.1	1710	1710	14.49	0.75	0.758
	15.39	6360	153.4	1700	1710	15.1	0.75	0.75

Code:
Sunday	1	August	2010	19:29:16:16096	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0	Data version: 20100630		
06A 906 032 MJ		1.8L R4/5VT         0003						
								
	Group A:	'118				Group B:	'032	
		Engine Speed	Intake Air	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Lambda (add.)	Lambda (mult.)
	TIME		Temperature	Solenoid Valve	(actual Value)	TIME	Self-Adaptation	Self-Adaptation
Marker	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar	STAMP	 %	 %
	0.01	2200	22	95.3	1490	0.3	0	-10.9
	0.61	2360	21	95.3	1660	0.91	0	-10.9
	1.21	2480	21	95.3	1860	1.51	0	-10.9
	1.81	2680	21	95.3	2050	2.11	0	-10.9
	2.41	2840	21	81.6	2200	2.72	0	-10.9
	3.02	3040	21	82.4	1990	3.32	0	-10.9
	3.62	3240	21	80.4	2120	3.92	0	-10.9
	4.22	3400	21	78.8	1940	4.53	0	-10.9
	4.83	3560	22	78.4	1940	5.13	0	-10.9
	5.43	3720	23	83.1	1970	5.73	0	-10.9
	6.04	3880	23	80.8	1980	6.34	0	-10.9
	6.64	4040	24	86.3	2040	6.94	0	-10.9
	7.25	4200	24	80.8	1980	7.54	0	-10.9
	7.85	4360	24	83.9	2000	8.15	0	-10.9
	8.45	4520	24	81.6	1950	8.75	0	-10.9
	9.05	4640	25	84.3	1870	9.35	0	-10.9
	9.67	4800	26	82	1950	9.97	0	-10.9
	10.26	4920	26	83.9	1870	10.56	0	-10.2
	10.87	5080	27	82.7	1860	11.16	0	-10.2
	11.47	5200	27	83.5	1850	11.77	0	-10.2
	12.08	5320	27	83.9	1800	12.38	0	-10.2
	12.68	5440	27	83.1	1800	12.97	0	-10.2
	13.29	5560	28	85.5	1770	13.58	0	-10.2
	13.89	5640	28	85.5	1780	14.19	0	-10.2
	14.5	5760	29	85.5	1790	14.8	0	-10.2
	15.1	5880	29	85.5	1750	15.4	0	-10.2
	15.7	5960	29	85.5	1730	16	0	-10.2
	16.3	6040	30	84.7	1750	16.61	0	-10.2
	16.91	6160	30	84.7	1690	17.21	0	-10.2
	17.51	6240	30	85.5	1710	17.81	0	-10.2
	18.11	6320	30	83.9	1700	18.41	0	-10.2
	18.72	6400	30	83.5	1710	19.02	0	-10.2
	19.32	6480	30	83.5	1710	19.62	0	-10.2
	19.92	6560	30	83.1	1720	20.23	0	-10.2
	20.53	6640	31	84.7	1710	20.83	0	-10.9


Really pleased with intake temp as before FMIC was gettin uptowards 50,now only just hitting 30:D , also g/s hitting 184 is an improvement:clap:

big change in block 032 tho with -10.9's compared to -4.7's on last logging prior to FMIC,what would that be caused by?
 
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DPJ

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That's looking better. :)

The increased negative value in multiplicative fuel trim means the car is running ritcher and the ecu is compensating more for it.

I think the CFs are a feature of the P-torque mapping.
 
Jul 29, 2006
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That's looking better. :)

The increased negative value in multiplicative fuel trim means the car is running ritcher and the ecu is compensating more for it.

I think the CFs are a feature of the P-torque mapping.

I put some octane booster in this last tank Dave,Is there anything you can see with those logs that would explain how the car feels low down,a little stuttery then once past 2500-3000 rpm,seems to pull ok?
 

DPJ

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Dec 13, 2004
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The stutter was evident on your previous logs. There is something slightly amiss. If you look at the value change from -10.9 to -10.2 at just under 5000 rpm. This would indicate something like a maf starting to fail. This might explain the stutter.
 

james walker

cooling is the key people
May 24, 2007
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retford notts
That's looking better. :)

The increased negative value in multiplicative fuel trim means the car is running ritcher and the ecu is compensating more for it.

I think the CFs are a feature of the P-torque mapping.

dave, what feature would this be mate... i see what your saying theres a pattern of cfs on logs by p-torque maps. slightly annoying as ive been working on reducing cfs to look at timing advance but aint happening if i cant get rid of them.
 

james walker

cooling is the key people
May 24, 2007
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retford notts
very similar... your pulling more g/s with the same filter. going to look at that one.

intake temps the same, i have less cfs but still some and cant seem to shift them.

your running richer on full boost than me, 0.7xx under load seems rich to me. i see 0.855 under full load which works out at an afr of 12.56 your seeing afr of 11.024 which is a little rich iirc