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Online car brokers

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Active Member
Mar 10, 2015
21
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Brokers4Cars and most other online brokers will retain the v5 cert for a certain period AND the car will be registered to their name 'care of'. They really do make it as difficult as possible to find this out as it is buried in the tcs.

This of course means you arent the first or even official owner of the vehicle initially. I cant remember the specific aop, but there is potential to (unknowingly) commit a c offence here.

Happily, not all brokers operate in this way. I found that both drivethedeal and carwow operate as a proper ******** service. As it happened when i ordered i took the best broker price, called up every dealer within 50 miles and gave my business to the first one which matched it.

Hope that helps others who were in my situation :)


That's one of my concerns and something I will discuss with them when I ring on Monday.

For those of you that have brought from Broker4Cars were you the first registered keeper?

My plan is to get the best deal I can online and then take a copy of the price into my local dealers and see if they can match it. The only problem is most of my local dealers are owned by the same parent company.
 

fabiavrs2004

Active Member
Sep 11, 2015
65
0
Bristol
I went through DTD and paid £18,800 for a 1.4 FR ST with sound, Mirror Link, and acc. The V5 came through the post before the car was delivered. This was on the 0% HP deal which you can always pay off if you don't want to earn any interest in the bank. I used DTD in 2004 to buy a Fabia vrs so they seem to be doing something right.
 

bleedsoff

Active Member
Sep 30, 2015
105
1
What I like with DTD is you do the deal directly with the dealer. For this car though I knew what garage they used for DTD and just went straight to the garage in question and said just give me a DTD price. So this time didn't go through a broker but if they hadn't of matched I def would of gone through the DTD.
 

LaChab

Active Member
Jun 18, 2014
18
0
I bought my ST from broker4cars, and I'm the first and only owner shown on the V5.
I found them very pleasant to deal with, and always easy to contact on the 'phone.
As I had some queries about options, I spoke directly to the dealer several times, so although it was my first "online" car purchase, I didn't really have any worries about paying the broker rather than the dealer. And I seem to remember that they discount options as well as the actual car.
 

noel2014

Active Member
Jan 6, 2014
93
0
Tamworth
My car did show a previous owner very fleetingly (2 weeks I think) due to buying through Broker4cars. Didn't effect anything though and did not effect the sell on value. I cant see a problem if shows 1 previous owner as you can prove it was just for days/couple weeks to any potential buyer.
 

Ckpearce91

Active Member
Feb 20, 2013
1,287
15
Milton Keynes
How do online brokers get such good discounts. I specced an Audi Q5 s-line 2.0 tdi s tronic on Audi's website and it came to £46.5K and then done the same on DTD and with the same spec I got £42K
 

noel2014

Active Member
Jan 6, 2014
93
0
Tamworth
They don't have massive overheads like dealers have ( showroom, sales staff, car cleaners etc etc ) and also they have more buying power - imagine how many people in the UK approach them every day.
 

andrew_myers

Active Member
Aug 21, 2015
11
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My plan is to get the best deal I can online and then take a copy of the price into my local dealers and see if they can match it. The only problem is most of my local dealers are owned by the same parent company.

It might be a better use of time to prepare yourself a little s ript and call up all your local dealers rather than take the time to go see them. The amount who give an instant no as soon as broker prices are mentioned is quite hilarious / tragic / short-sighted.
 

w8699

Active Member
Jan 3, 2015
5
0
Bought my Leon through Broker4Cars - the dealer dealt with registration and I was the first owner on the V5
 

noel2014

Active Member
Jan 6, 2014
93
0
Tamworth
It might be a better use of time to prepare yourself a little s ript and call up all your local dealers rather than take the time to go see them. The amount who give an instant no as soon as broker prices are mentioned is quite hilarious / tragic / short-sighted.

Even funnier when you actually order through the broker, and then end up picking the car up from the dealer who couldn't match the price ! :cartman:
 

Ewan

Active Member
May 7, 2008
100
1
Brokers4Cars and most other online brokers will retain the v5 cert for a certain period AND the car will be registered to their name 'care of'. They really do make it as difficult as possible to find this out as it is buried in the tcs.

This of course means you arent the first or even official owner of the vehicle initially. I cant remember the specific aop, but there is potential to (unknowingly) commit a c offence here.

Happily, not all brokers operate in this way. I found that both drivethedeal and carwow operate as a proper ******** service. As it happened when i ordered i took the best broker price, called up every dealer within 50 miles and gave my business to the first one which matched it.

Hope that helps others who were in my situation :)

Both cars I brought from BuyaCar show is as first owner on v5 and were sourced from UK dealers.
 

italianjob

Active Member
Oct 21, 2014
128
3
Middlesbrough
I mentioned brokers in my local SEAT dealer and immediately they said they couldn't get anywhere near their prices.

They wouldn't budge on the price of a new car so I got up and walked out.
 

oldsteve

Active Member
Feb 8, 2013
3
0
I used Broker4cars when I bought my Cupra in July '14. They were very efficient and the price was about20% below list. The car was delivered on a trailer even though I didn't pay any extra and I was the 1st keeper listed on the V5. The local SEAT dealer wanted list price for the car and made a derisory offer for my trade in.
When I bought my wife's Polo GTi I used Carwow and all the dealers that bid came to virtually the same price as Broker4cars. My local VW dealer was willing to play ball though and matched the price.
 

Andy

Active Member
Nov 12, 2013
379
0
Ayrshire, Scotland
Brokers4Cars and most other online brokers will retain the v5 cert for a certain period AND the car will be registered to their name 'care of'. They really do make it as difficult as possible to find this out as it is buried in the tcs.

This of course means you arent the first or even official owner of the vehicle initially. I cant remember the specific aop, but there is potential to (unknowingly) commit a c offence here.

Happily, not all brokers operate in this way. I found that both drivethedeal and carwow operate as a proper ******** service. As it happened when i ordered i took the best broker price, called up every dealer within 50 miles and gave my business to the first one which matched it.

Hope that helps others who were in my situation :)

Used Broker4cars twice, first time went without a hitch, the 2nd I was lied to. Broker4cars were well aware I wasn't interested in any pre-reg, it was stipulated at the onset and several times throughout discussions that I would be the first registered owner. I wasn't, as mentioned by andrew_myers above the V5, which I had to chase, came with my name but with the 'Care of' prefix and the brokers address, along with it came a slip of A4 paper saying I would still show as the first owner when the V5 address was updated, it went on to explain how to fill in the v5 change of address but it was a load of ******, the V5 came back from Swansea showing two owners, albeit both were me. Hang your head in shame D.

I should have twigged something was amiss when a registration mark came through when I had already stipulated in that very same letter that mentioned 'first registered owner' that I also had a personal registration number I wanted the car registered with. I never queried it at the time, not wanting to rock the order boat and thinking to myself I'll just do it when I get the car. I got the car but the V5 never appeared within the usual time frame and wanting to apply this personal registration plate I asked the dealer when I could expect the V5, he referred me back to the broker. It was then the penny dropped, the arrival of the V5 confirmed it. Not once was this pre-reg mentioned by anyone, yet several times it was mentioned during the course of emails to both dealer and broker that I would be the first registered owner, it was blatantly obvious I had no interest in pre-reg.

All things aside I still got a discounted car but all this pre-reg shenanigans done behind my back and in direct conflict to my expressed interests is why I personally will never use Broker4cars again.
 
Apr 15, 2009
857
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Wolverhampton
I brought through broker4cars and the experience was shocking. I ordered the cars in March for Sept delivery, I rang in the August to get an update and told they was on the boat on the way over, I then sold my current car to to take delivery 1st September. A few weeks before it was due I called up just to sort stuff out to be told it hadn't even been built,Pissed off wasn't the word. I eventually took delivery of it this time last year.

When I got the car I looked in the service book and found out it had been delivered in September but for some reason had got lost in the system, so I could of had it September. When it came to the log books it took me 7 months to get them through chasing DVLA and the supplying dealer was a nightmare, took so long to sort things out, yes they even filled in the paperwork wrong for the car so was returned to the dealer where no one picked it up, I eventully sent a letter into the DVLA explaining what had happened and they released the logbook in my name as the 1st owner. Needless to say Broker4cars was not very helpful at all, infant they were shocking, they have that many car orders on the go they can't cope. I would never use them again. The info you receive from them is far from accurate and you are left in the dark from start to finish. I know a few people on here have had the same issue when it came to delivery, it was always hit and miss when it came to build slots, and to finish it off I went through that much hassle with them I ended up hating the car for how long it took to get here and for then to be disappointed on how it was hence why I sold it and broke even because of the saving they offered.
 
Apr 15, 2009
857
0
Wolverhampton
How it works it when you buy from a broker is they will register the car in your name against a business address and then they will then send it back to DVLA with your address so it will take a little longer than normal, this is how they can offer the discount as in theory it is being registered as a fleet vehicle.
 

hilaryj93

Active Member
Nov 27, 2010
52
0
broker4cars seem to get mixed reviews so here is my experience.

ordered through them early july red 5 dr cupra sub 8 leather

told 14 -16 weeks . got car end October so estimated time for (agonising) wait ok

car exactly as ordered , when I asked for updates quick replies with good info

v5c came last week dec 11th and every detail on it was exactly as I expected

no care of / previous owner carry on

the deal they offered me was much cheaper than anything else from a broker

I admit that I was concerned about paying broker rather than dealer

but everything was fine , and if you pay even a small part of the money by credit (not debit)

card you have good protection.

to sum up I am very happy with broker4cars

Hilaryj93
 

bretth1974

Active Member
May 3, 2015
561
5
DTD are great. You deal with them for the first week or so and then all through main dealer. That's the way it should be.
 

dty73

Active Member
Oct 28, 2015
88
2
I asked broker4cars about this the other day and they said it varied from make to make. For Seat, the dealer they use puts everything through as fleet deals and isn't too keen on dealing with loads of punters directly, apparently.
 

bretth1974

Active Member
May 3, 2015
561
5
Don't know why anyone would go for pre reg car for a few hundred quid saving over non pre reg broker cars when it may have that effect on the resale value and some insurance companies are funny about it. And that's saying nothing about the slightly grey legal issues....
 
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