My Black Magic Mk1 LEON Cupra TDI index in 1st post

[MarkWales]

ok cleared the snow from around the car

checked out the tyres

back pair excellent 6mm - front drivers close to minimum 2mm passenger 4mm - spare brand new (but 16")

so moved the rears to the front and out the spare on to replace the 2mm tyre

only downside restricted to 50mph because of the off size wheels

WINTER MODE lol

 

[brightsideteeem]

lol at least you say your gonna stick to 50mph

A guy in a scooby came into work a few months ago on his space saver, we was joking with him saying what was it like with that on...

he didnt realise they arnt meant to go fast on, just done 125mph on motorway on it. His face turned white when we told him what could of happened lol

 

[MarkWales]

Nice one mr Subaru

 

[Rhys_]

to be honest mate you will hard pushed to get up to 50 with all the snow and ice around!

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

ive done more than 50 on my spare , it looks lke a std 16 inch spare , its not as if its a propper space saver !!

slam 4 space savers on with coilies , how low can you go lol

ive done 60 -80 this morning its not that bad now ,

im more worried about the ruts in the middle of rroad thats turned to hard ice , im scrapping it all the time , worried incase i rip fuel lines / exhaust / sump/ diesel cooler under drivers sill etc

 

[MarkWales]

I am sticking to using the Sharan - no ground clearence issues there

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

at the bottom of your house , a crapped all the way through that one way section ,

No to Collovers -- airbags the way forward

Decked for shows / summer , on the floor for parking security

higher than yours now for the snow lol monster truck stylee

 

[MarkWales]

at the bottom of your house , a crapped all the way through that one way section ,

No to Collovers -- airbags the way forward

Decked for shows / summer , on the floor for parking security

higher than yours now for the snow lol monster truck stylee

airbags the way forward why are you crapping in our street ?

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

on way out of street too , than one way section

too low , ,

 

[MarkWales]

shall be giving mine a good wash in the morning

freeze seems to have left us so going to get the salt and crud off

 

[MarkWales]

anyone use http://vaglog.vag-technique.fr/index.php

 

[MarkWales]

Sunday	12	December	2010	14:22:23:61786	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3	Data version: 20101206									
038 906 019 KG		1.9l R4 EDC G200SG  5342													
															
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'007				Group C:	'010			
		Engine speed	MAF (specified)	MAF (actual)	EGR duty cycle		Fuel Temp	Fuel cooling state	Intake Air Temp	Coolant Temp		MAF	Atmos. pressure	Intake air press.	Throttle
	TIME	790-870	230-350	210-370	40-75%	TIME	~Amb.Temp.*C	On:100%-Off:0%	~Amb.Temp.*C	~Amb.Temp.*C	TIME	1000-1250	sensor -f96-	2200-2800	100%
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 mg/str	 mg/str	 %	STAMP	°C	 %	°C	°C	STAMP	 mg/str			 %
	0.88	1848	230	455.7	4.8	0.01	70.2	0	18.9	86.4	0.44	470.4	1008	1188	0
	2.22	1638	235	352.8	67.3	1.32	71.1	0	18.9	86.4	1.78	450.8	1008	1152	0.8
	3.57	1428	250	269.5	75.3	2.67	71.1	0	18.9	86.4	3.14	264.6	1008	1080	2.7
	4.92	1260	250	249.9	80.1	4.01	71.1	0	18.9	86.4	4.47	259.7	1008	1032	5.1
	6.26	1155	325	220.5	4.8	5.37	71.1	0	18.9	86.4	5.81	205.8	1008	1020	6.3
	7.61	1155	355	485.1	4.8	6.71	71.1	0	18.9	86.4	7.18	475.3	1008	1104	15.7
	8.96	1176	325	333.2	56.2	8.05	71.1	0	18.9	87.3	8.51	357.7	1008	1140	15.7
	10.29	1176	320	328.3	57.4	9.42	71.1	0	18.9	87.3	9.85	333.2	1008	1080	14.9
	11.64	1176	320	298.9	55.8	10.73	71.1	0	18	87.3	11.18	308.7	1008	1068	14.9
	12.95	1197	320	313.6	55.8	12.07	71.1	0	18	87.3	12.51	313.6	1008	1068	14.9
	14.29	1197	315	318.5	56.2	13.4	71.1	0	18	87.3	13.84	298.9	1008	1068	14.9
	15.63	1197	315	352.8	58.2	14.73	71.1	0	18	87.3	15.19	318.5	1008	1068	14.9
	16.97	1197	315	284.2	59	16.09	71.1	0	18	87.3	16.53	294	1008	1068	14.9
	18.32	1197	315	303.8	57.8	17.41	71.1	0	18	87.3	17.87	284.2	1008	1068	14.9
	19.65	1197	310	294	56.2	18.75	71.1	0	18	87.3	19.19	303.8	1008	1056	14.9
	20.99	1197	315	298.9	57.4	20.1	71.1	0	18	87.3	20.55	323.4	1008	1068	14.9
	22.32	1197	315	313.6	58.6	21.43	71.1	0	18	87.3	21.87	313.6	1008	1068	14.9
	23.67	1197	355	509.6	4.8	22.76	70.2	0	18	87.3	23.22	294	1008	1068	15.3
	25	1239	330	343	56.2	24.11	70.2	0	18	87.3	24.55	362.6	1008	1128	18.4
	26.35	1239	325	294	57.4	25.46	70.2	0	18	87.3	25.91	313.6	1008	1104	18.8
	27.69	1155	405	445.9	50.2	26.81	70.2	0	18	87.3	27.25	460.6	1008	1152	18.8
	29.03	1176	850	637	4.8	28.16	70.2	0	18	87.3	28.59	583.1	1008	1296	100
	30.38	1575	850	857.5	4.8	29.47	70.2	0	18	87.3	29.93	754.6	1008	1596	100
	31.72	1953	850	1229.9	4.8	30.84	70.2	0	18	88.2	31.28	1082.9	1008	2412	100
	33.05	2331	850	1112.3	4.8	32.16	70.2	0	18.9	88.2	32.61	1068.2	1008	2580	100
	34.38	2709	850	1136.8	4.8	33.49	70.2	0	18.9	88.2	33.93	1166.2	1008	2676	100
	35.72	3066	850	1087.8	4.8	34.83	70.2	0	18.9	88.2	35.27	1107.4	1008	2544	100
	37.05	3423	850	1063.3	4.8	36.17	70.2	0	18.9	88.2	36.61	1073.1	1008	2460	100
	38.39	3801	850	1014.3	4.8	37.51	70.2	0	19.8	88.2	37.95	1043.7	1008	2496	100
	39.71	4158	850	989.8	4.8	38.83	70.2	0	21.6	88.2	39.28	1019.2	1008	2520	100
	41.06	4473	850	931	4.8	40.15	70.2	0	22.5	88.2	40.59	935.9	1008	2400	100
	42.4	4788	850	837.9	4.8	41.5	70.2	0	24.3	88.2	41.94	862.4	1008	2268	100
	43.73	4704	850	597.8	4.8	42.84	70.2	0	25.2	88.2	43.28	720.3	1008	2040	100
	45.07	2415	260	519.4	4.8	44.19	70.2	0	26.1	88.2	44.63	563.5	1008	1572	0
	46.41	1617	235	480.2	4.8	45.54	70.2	0	26.1	88.2	45.98	514.5	1008	1320	0
	47.75	1407	250	465.5	4.8	46.85	71.1	0	25.2	88.2	47.31	494.9	1008	1272	0
	49.09	1659	235	289.1	65.7	48.19	71.1	0	25.2	88.2	48.65	416.5	1008	1176	18.8
	50.44	1365	285	470.4	53.4	49.53	71.1	0	25.2	88.2	50	441	1008	1116	13.7
	51.8	1218	250	499.8	4.8	50.89	72	0	24.3	88.2	51.34	289.1	1008	1116	4.3
	53.13	1785	230	289.1	65.3	52.25	72	0	24.3	88.2	52.69	303.8	1008	1188	22.4
	54.47	1491	275	490	59.8	53.57	72	0	24.3	88.2	54.01	465.5	1008	1164	19.2
	55.81	1113	250	504.7	59.4	54.9	72.9	0	23.4	88.2	55.35	274.4	1008	1140	1.2
	57.15	1533	245	274.4	64.9	56.25	72.9	0	23.4	88.2	56.69	328.3	1008	1116	17.6
	58.49	1134	300	352.8	56.6	57.61	72.9	0	23.4	89.1	58.05	455.7	1008	1092	4.7
	59.87	1365	250	269.5	70.1	58.96	72.9	0	22.5	89.1	59.41	294	1008	1068	14.5
	61.23	1323	250	338.1	57	60.33	72.9	0	22.5	89.1	60.79	396.9	1008	1056	13.7
	62.57	1197	250	490	4.8	61.67	72.9	0	22.5	89.1	62.11	274.4	1008	1080	13.3
	63.91	1302	250	298.9	61	63.01	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	63.45	333.2	1008	1080	13.7
	65.25	819	520	289.1	42.6	64.35	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	64.79	460.6	1008	1044	0
	66.59	1302	250	284.2	64.9	65.69	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	66.13	294	1008	1080	13.7
	67.93	1239	250	318.5	56.2	67.03	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	67.47	382.2	1008	1056	11.4
	69.29	861	250	274.4	62.2	68.39	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	68.83	279.3	1008	1068	0
	70.63	1302	250	308.7	62.2	69.73	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	70.17	313.6	1008	1080	13.3
	72.01	819	255	235.2	61.8	71.1	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	71.55	445.9	1008	1056	0
	73.36	1470	255	284.2	63.4	72.45	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	72.91	303.8	1008	1068	16.9
	74.71	945	250	294	65.7	73.82	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	74.27	475.3	1008	1068	0
	76.05	1491	250	279.3	63.4	75.15	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	75.61	318.5	1008	1092	16.9
	77.41	1134	250	509.6	4.8	76.5	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	76.95	259.7	1008	1080	0
	78.79	966	250	328.3	63	77.87	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	78.33	333.2	1008	1092	5.1
	80.11	945	250	245	64.9	79.23	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	79.67	230.3	1008	1044	0
	81.49	924	250	269.5	67.7	80.59	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	81.03	235.2	1008	1020	0
	82.81	924	250	245	66.9	81.93	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	82.37	254.8	1008	1008	0
	84.17	1071	250	274.4	61	83.27	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	83.73	230.3	1008	1008	0
	85.53	1050	265	289.1	59.8	84.63	72.9	0	20.7	89.1	85.07	426.3	1008	1032	3.5
	86.85	1029	325	333.2	53.8	85.97	72	0	20.7	89.1	86.41	289.1	1008	1032	5.9
	88.17	1050	455	436.1	4.8	87.28	72	0	19.8	89.1	87.72	333.2	1008	1032	7.8
	89.53	1134	440	470.4	47.8	88.61	72	0	19.8	89.1	89.07	490	1008	1152	18.4
	90.87	1218	350	362.6	54.6	89.97	72	0	19.8	89.1	90.43	392	1008	1188	18.8
	92.22	1260	360	519.4	55	91.31	72	0	19.8	89.1	91.76	406.7	1008	1128	22.4
	93.57	1281	340	333.2	54.6	92.67	72	0	19.8	89.1	93.13	343	1008	1164	21.6
	94.91	1323	335	343	54.6	94.03	72	0	19.8	89.1	94.47	313.6	1008	1140	21.6
	96.25	1260	340	357.7	4.8	95.35	72	0	18.9	89.1	95.79	333.2	1008	1140	21.6
	97.57	1302	850	681.1	4.8	96.69	72	0	18.9	89.1	97.13	602.7	1008	1260	57.3
	98.91	1365	850	779.1	4.8	98.03	72	0	19.8	89.1	98.47	744.8	1008	1692	100
	100.25	1785	850	1038.8	4.8	99.36	72	0	19.8	89.1	99.81	935.9	1008	2160	100
	101.58	2163	850	984.9	4.8	100.71	72	0	19.8	89.1	101.16	950.6	1008	2568	100
	102.93	2541	850	1161.3	4.8	102.03	72	0	19.8	89.1	102.47	1141.7	1008	2592	100
	104.27	2898	850	1107.4	4.8	103.37	72	0	19.8	89.1	103.81	1122.1	1008	2568	100
	105.63	3276	850	1063.3	4.8	104.73	72	0	19.8	89.1	105.19	1073.1	1008	2484	100
	106.97	3633	850	1038.8	4.8	106.07	72	0	20.7	89.1	106.53	1053.5	1008	2508	100
	108.31	4011	850	989.8	4.8	107.41	72	0	21.6	89.1	107.88	999.6	1008	2496	100
	109.65	4326	850	921.2	4.8	108.75	72	0	23.4	89.1	109.21	960.4	1008	2412	100
	110.99	4662	850	877.1	4.8	110.09	72	0	24.3	89.1	110.53	896.7	1008	2292	100
	112.31	4914	850	744.8	4.8	111.43	72	0	26.1	89.1	111.87	793.8	1008	2136	100
	113.65	3738	850	592.9	4.8	112.77	72	0	27	89.1	113.21	632.1	1008	1836	0
	114.99	1995	230	490	64.1	114.11	72	0	27.9	88.2	114.55	534.1	1008	1488	0
	116.31	1554	240	303.8	84.5	115.43	72	0	27	88.2	115.87	318.5	1008	1188	3.5
	117.67	1050	250	445.9	66.1	116.77	72.9	0	27	88.2	117.21	328.3	1008	1068	0
	119.03	1365	250	303.8	67.3	118.12	72.9	0	26.1	88.2	118.57	298.9	1008	1092	14.5
	120.39	1218	315	396.9	55	119.49	72.9	0	26.1	88.2	119.95	308.7	1008	1080	5.9
	121.73	987	455	382.2	37.9	120.85	73.8	0	25.2	89.1	121.29	485.1	1008	1104	0
	123.07	1071	250	465.5	57.8	122.16	73.8	0	25.2	89.1	122.61	318.5	1008	1116	7.1
	124.41	1323	260	328.3	59.4	123.5	73.8	0	25.2	89.1	123.95	450.8	1008	1080	14.5
	125.74	798	495	274.4	50.6	124.84	73.8	0	24.3	89.1	125.29	436.1	1008	1092	0
	127.08	1050	250	490	60.6	126.19	74.7	0	24.3	89.1	126.63	303.8	1008	1104	11.8
	128.41	1239	250	298.9	59.4	127.52	74.7	0	24.3	89.1	127.97	426.3	1008	1068	11.4
	129.77	1239	250	235.2	64.5	128.87	74.7	0	23.4	89.1	129.33	264.6	1008	1068	11.8
	131.12	1302	250	259.7	65.7	130.22	74.7	0	23.4	90	130.67	230.3	1008	1044	14.1
	132.47	819	255	269.5	61.4	131.58	74.7	0	23.4	90	132.02	470.4	1008	1032	0
	133.81	1323	250	279.3	61.4	132.92	74.7	0	23.4	90	133.37	328.3	1008	1056	14.1
	135.18	966	500	352.8	31.9	134.27	74.7	0	22.5	90	134.73	274.4	1008	1080	0
	136.52	1008	250	308.7	63.4	135.63	74.7	0	22.5	90	136.07	274.4	1008	1068	5.5
	137.86	1197	300	303.8	55.4	136.97	74.7	0	22.5	90	137.41	298.9	1008	1032	5.1
	139.22	861	250	259.7	66.1	138.33	74.7	0	22.5	90	138.77	249.9	1008	1044	0
	140.57	1218	250	274.4	62.2	139.66	74.7	0	22.5	90	140.11	303.8	1008	1032	8.6
	141.89	903	460	259.7	45.8	141	74.7	0	22.5	90	141.45	240.1	1008	1044	0
	143.23	1260	250	254.8	64.1	142.35	74.7	0	22.5	90	142.79	259.7	1008	1044	12.2
	144.58	903	470	245	48.2	143.67	74.7	0	22.5	90	144.13	220.5	1008	1044	0
	145.95	1260	250	249.9	64.5	145.04	74.7	0	22.5	90	145.49	264.6	1008	1044	12.2
	147.27	1029	330	396.9	50.2	146.39	74.7	0	22.5	90	146.83	235.2	1008	1032	0
	148.61	1260	250	264.6	64.5	147.7	73.8	0	21.6	90	148.16	264.6	1008	1056	12.2
	149.95	861	255	225.4	64.1	149.06	73.8	0	21.6	90	149.51	215.6	1008	1032	0
	151.31	1302	250	298.9	64.1	150.39	73.8	0	21.6	90	150.85	313.6	1008	1044	13.7
	152.67	840	250	235.2	66.9	151.76	73.8	0	21.6	90	152.22	249.9	1008	1044	0
	154	1239	250	279.3	64.1	153.12	73.8	0	21.6	90	153.57	294	1008	1044	11.8
	155.35	924	365	279.3	57.8	154.44	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	154.91	436.1	1008	1044	0
	156.69	1155	280	245	60.6	155.81	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	156.24	249.9	1008	1032	8.2
	158.02	1134	355	460.6	50.2	157.13	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	157.59	318.5	1008	1044	12.9
	159.37	1155	380	480.2	4.8	158.46	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	158.9	328.3	1008	1104	13.7
	160.71	1218	360	392	51.8	159.81	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	160.25	534.1	1008	1188	20
	162.07	1281	340	323.4	55	161.17	73.8	0	21.6	89.1	161.63	333.2	1008	1164	20.4
	163.41	1302	330	328.3	55.8	162.51	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	162.95	328.3	1008	1140	20.8
	164.76	1197	475	534.1	4.8	163.85	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	164.3	308.7	1008	1140	20.8
	166.1	1260	850	656.6	4.8	165.2	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	165.65	646.8	1008	1356	63.5
	167.43	1323	850	715.4	4.8	166.55	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	166.98	666.4	1008	1668	100
	168.76	1743	850	999.6	4.8	167.89	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	168.33	965.3	1008	2088	100
	170.11	2121	850	950.6	4.8	169.2	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	169.67	935.9	1008	2664	100
	171.47	2520	850	1180.9	4.8	170.57	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	171.01	1117.2	1008	2532	100
	172.83	2898	850	1107.4	4.8	171.93	73.8	0	20.7	89.1	172.37	1127	1008	2604	100
	174.15	3234	850	1078	4.8	173.27	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	173.7	1068.2	1008	2484	100
	175.49	3612	850	1038.8	4.8	174.61	72.9	0	21.6	89.1	175.04	1058.4	1008	2508	100
	176.85	3990	850	989.8	4.8	175.95	72.9	0	23.4	89.1	176.4	1033.9	1008	2520	100
	178.19	4305	850	935.9	4.8	177.31	72.9	0	24.3	89.1	177.75	955.5	1008	2424	100
	179.53	4620	850	877.1	4.8	178.64	72.9	0	26.1	89.1	179.09	896.7	1008	2292	100
	180.87	4914	850	754.6	4.8	179.99	72.9	0	27	89.1	180.43	803.6	1008	2160	100
	182.28	3066	335	602.7	4.8	181.37	72.9	0	28.8	89.1	181.83	617.4	1008	1872	0
	183.63	1701	230	504.7	4.8	182.73	73.8	0	28.8	89.1	183.19	509.6	1008	1440	12.9
	184.99	1764	230	323.4	65.3	184.07	73.8	0	27.9	88.2	184.53	475.3	1008	1212	23.5
	186.3	1155	365	416.5	4.8	185.42	73.8	0	27.9	88.2	185.86	441	1008	1176	2
	187.66	1302	250	387.1	4.8	186.76	73.8	0	27.9	89.1	187.2	289.1	1008	1164	13.7
	189	1239	250	298.9	62.6	188.1	74.7	0	27	89.1	188.54	343	1008	1104	12.5
	190.32	1260	250	254.8	66.5	189.44	74.7	0	27	89.1	189.88	269.5	1008	1056	12.5
	191.69	1260	250	230.3	68.5	190.76	74.7	0	26.1	89.1	191.23	240.1	1008	1044	12.5
	193.04	1407	255	269.5	67.3	192.15	75.6	0	26.1	89.1	192.59	269.5	1008	1032	15.7
	194.39	1386	250	259.7	70.1	193.48	75.6	0	26.1	89.1	193.93	259.7	1008	1044	15.7
	195.76	1344	280	411.6	61	194.85	75.6	0	25.2	89.1	195.3	421.4	1008	1056	14.9
	197.1	798	550	274.4	62.6	196.2	75.6	0	25.2	90	196.64	475.3	1008	1092	0
	198.44	1176	250	298.9	65.3	197.55	75.6	0	25.2	90	198	274.4	1008	1092	13.3
	199.79	1218	250	313.6	58.6	198.89	75.6	0	25.2	90	199.33	382.2	1008	1044	7.8
	201.1	1197	250	249.9	64.9	200.22	75.6	0	25.2	90	200.66	230.3	1008	1068	11
	202.44	1260	265	318.5	57.8	201.56	75.6	0	24.3	90	202	426.3	1008	1044	11
	203.78	819	280	269.5	58.2	202.88	75.6	0	24.3	90	203.34	289.1	1008	1080	0
	205.14	1239	250	289.1	60.6	204.22	75.6	0	24.3	90	204.69	294	1008	1032	7.1
	206.5	882	250	240.1	66.1	205.61	75.6	0	24.3	90	206.05	245	1008	1044	0
	207.84	1176	250	274.4	61	206.96	75.6	0	24.3	90	207.4	303.8	1008	1020	6.7
	209.18	903	250	230.3	64.1	208.28	75.6	0	24.3	90	208.74	220.5	1008	1032	0
	210.52	1155	250	259.7	62.2	209.62	75.6	0	24.3	90	210.08	230.3	1008	1032	5.9
	211.86	945	340	254.8	57	210.96	75.6	0	24.3	90	211.43	230.3	1008	1032	0
	213.2	1176	250	240.1	62.2	212.3	75.6	0	24.3	90	212.74	264.6	1008	1020	6.3
	214.54	1239	275	249.9	61.4	213.64	75.6	0	24.3	90	214.08	240.1	1008	1032	9.8
	215.88	1155	250	460.6	58.2	214.99	75.6	0	24.3	90	215.42	294	1008	1056	13.7
	217.2	1302	270	323.4	57.4	216.33	75.6	0	24.3	90	216.76	401.8	1008	1044	9
	218.54	1113	250	480.2	63.8	217.66	75.6	0	23.4	90	218.1	269.5	1008	1092	7.1
	219.89	1197	250	279.3	59.8	218.98	75.6	0	23.4	90	219.44	396.9	1008	1056	9
	221.22	798	260	230.3	66.5	220.32	75.6	0	23.4	90	220.76	259.7	1008	1056	0
	222.58	1281	250	284.2	62.6	221.66	74.7	0	23.4	90	222.12	333.2	1008	1032	12.9
	223.93	882	250	235.2	67.3	223.02	74.7	0	23.4	90	223.49	284.2	1008	1044	0
	225.31	903	250	259.7	65.7	224.38	74.7	0	23.4	90	224.84	254.8	1008	1020	0
	226.64	882	255	225.4	63	225.76	74.7	0	23.4	90	226.2	249.9	1008	1008	0

 

[MarkWales]

thats the before log the after log is too large to post

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

log of what ?

only just realised my crapping post lol i mean SCRAPING !!!!!

 

[MarkWales]

at bills before and after remap the one I have posted is before

 

[MarkWales]

Picking up a set of 16" steels tonight - Winter Mode on

ebay £50

possible new sticker to match - lol

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

lucky bugger , been looking on net too

and need tyres badly on the fronts

 

[Rhys_]

nice one mate, will look good in winter mode! did they come with tyres? post them up when their fitted!

ive been eyeing up new wheels for when i send my bbs off to be redone just cant seem to find the right ones at the moment!

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

sell them for a profit , il give u £60

 

[MarkWales]

got them with real good tyres too pics to follow - once I brave the rain to fit them