MKIV/Leon Brembo Brakes

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by dangel
Ok bill i'm in the market for some

How easy are these things to fit? Hows the pagid investigation going?

TBH i was hoping to go grooved as well - wouldn't this make a diff for wet braking? How bad is pad wear likely to be?

Fitment is bolt on. Nothing cleaver.

No need for grooves... they work fine as they are.
Pagid pad info is with me for choosing.

Std pads work very well on the mkiv so there is'nt a great need for another pad material. Performance pads will be upwards of £120/set compared to £60/set for OE stock Galfer ones

regards
bill

 

[dangel]

Originally posted by ibizacupra
Fitment is bolt on. Nothing cleaver.

No need for grooves... they work fine as they are.
Pagid pad info is with me for choosing.

Std pads work very well on the mkiv so there is'nt a great need for another pad material. Performance pads will be upwards of £120/set compared to £60/set for OE stock Galfer ones

regards
bill

Ok just that i'm running pagids now and i luuuuurrrrrvee them compared to stock. I'm assuming we're taking FR pads so same properties as i have now (brake dust + better braking)?
Do you recommend a brake fluid change at the same time btw? I'm still running OE stuff

 

[m0rk]

opening up the brake fluid lines will pretty much mean that most of the fluid drains anyway - so you may as well consider it a change (as the brembo will need filling

Jonah - will email you back re: fitting.

Mark

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by dangel
Ok just that i'm running pagids now and i luuuuurrrrrvee them compared to stock. I'm assuming we're taking FR pads so same properties as i have now (brake dust + better braking)?
Do you recommend a brake fluid change at the same time btw? I'm still running OE stuff

You will also lurrrrrvvvvveeee the Brembo ones. They are comparible with Pagid Fast Road pads in performance. (Pagids own words)
I currently run Super Dot4 which seems to work fine.
regards
bill

 

[dangel]

Originally posted by ibizacupra
You will also lurrrrrvvvvveeee the Brembo ones. They are comparible with Pagid Fast Road pads in performance. (Pagids own words)
I currently run Super Dot4 which seems to work fine.
regards
bill

Ok cool Can you supply the fluid as well? I'll be ready to order monday!

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by dangel
Ok cool Can you supply the fluid as well? I'll be ready to order monday!

Fluid is available at most car accessory stores, thats where I would get some.. Carriage weigth is (iffy) on max 30Kg, and I fear brake fluid would push it over the edge.

Super Dot4 its called.
Seems to be a pretty common std now.

regards
bill

 

[RobDon]

Wouldn't the plain discs not fade on a track day? I've heard of LCR brakes fading away to nothing under track use. I think the MY03 17" wheels are ET38 so I'm guessing that they won't fit behind them - they look a tight squeeze behind your wheels!

 

[prc]

I very much dought they will fit as well. Time to get the Kahn design wheels.

 

[Jonah]

Originally posted by m0rk
Jonah - will email you back re: fitting.

Mark

No worries - the main trouble according to Bill is fitting the brake hoses

 

[prc]

WOW! Looked at the spacing required via a cupra at a local car show. Those brembo calipers are seriously fat.

Does anyone know what the offset is on the cupra R wheels?

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by RobDon
Wouldn't the plain discs not fade on a track day? I've heard of LCR brakes fading away to nothing under track use. I think the MY03 17" wheels are ET38 so I'm guessing that they won't fit behind them - they look a tight squeeze behind your wheels!

Let me put it this way.
I ran them on a 400bhp mkiv Golf and got zero brake fade after repeated bashing around Castle Combe.

Running 312mm stock disks and Pagid Fast Road pads I previously lost brakes after only 5 mins abuse.

Zero fade. 400bhp mkiv Golf, Brembo equipped.


They rock!

Bill

 

[RobDon]

Yeah but your discs have got grooves in them!!! Or are you saying that was with plain discs then, I'm confused now?

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by RobDon
Yeah but your discs have got grooves in them!!! Or are you saying that was with plain discs then, I'm confused now?

Grooves have nothing to do with fade..... Heat introduces fade... grooves just wears pads at a faster rate.

Running std plain disks they stop equally as well, but quieter and with less pad wear. Pad de-glazing is the grooves purpose, but I have never glazed these pads on track use. Worn a few sets out for sure, but never had glazing.

regards
Bill

 

[prc]

off topic question

Not that I want grooved discs but, doesn't the groved disc help during wet weather braking? I always thought that it would help when there was/is water buildup between pads & disc?

 

[ibizacupra]

Re: off topic question

Originally posted by prc
Not that I want grooved discs but, doesn't the groved disc help during wet weather braking? I always thought that it would help when there was/is water buildup between pads & disc?

Never noticed disks suffer from water film ever.
Drums.... in years gone by, but never disks.
Grooves are there to "wipe" the pad surface to aid deglazing.
Bill

 

[Jonah]

Are those other bits ready yet Bill?

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by Jonah
Are those other bits ready yet Bill?

Posted to you today.
Trawling thru the backlog of MKiv brembo kits now....

Brackets are now in stock!
Hoses are running out fast tho! DOH!

Bill

 

[Jonah]

Originally posted by ibizacupra
Posted to you today.
Trawling thru the backlog of MKiv brembo kits now....

Brackets are now in stock!
Hoses are running out fast tho! DOH!

Bill

Good thing I got in when I did then!

Saw the Golf on the front of something like "Car Mechanic" yesterday and on the inside cover a piccie of you looking very smug refering to an article inside about tuning Golfs - not info about you or the Mark IV though which I though was strange - maybe you should chase them for royalties.

 

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by Jonah
Good thing I got in when I did then!

Saw the Golf on the front of something like "Car Mechanic" yesterday and on the inside cover a piccie of you looking very smug refering to an article inside about tuning Golfs - not info about you or the Mark IV though which I though was strange - maybe you should chase them for royalties.

I should have been sent this mag... Not received it yet.
I was expecting a plug of some sorts also.. in the article as it cost me 1/2 days time for the privelige!

I'll look out for it tho now.
cheers
bill

 

[RobDon]

I also think your Golf was on Rev. Bob Torque yesterday too - came 2nd in the RR shootout with 341BHP I think it was - the number plate was something like S400 JAB - is that yours now?