HID projection issues

[beezertart]

Morning All

As some of you may or may not know,i have angel eyes on the ibiza with 6k hid's installed as i bought them like this. now i know there seems to be a bit of an issue with the visibility projected with angel eyes but mine are just ridiculous despite the hid's. it seems when i switch them on,they fire as normal,taking the clocks out still even though they're relayed but seem to lose their projection rapidly. they've never been great but as most of my driving is around town it hasn't really been noticeable.last week driving on unlit country roads i would say it was at best dangerous as i could only see just in front of the car and had to stick my fogs on to get any kind of decent projection.it was a bit foggy,wasn't being chavvy
anyway,i've been told that they may not be getting the power through so need to stick a tester on them,it is both sides despite one having a newer ballast than the other,but i've yet to do this. i have a spare set of hid bulbs at home,so could try these but am thinking as i've got to do country runs etc at the weekend,to just get a set of xenons and shove those in for the time being?? am i going to be able to put those in as a straight swap seeing as the lights have been messed about with? haven't had a chance to go and have a play with them due to weather and early darkness etc so would welcome all suggestions.i think the angels are h7 bulbs on both dipped and main beam,can someone verify this for me by any chance? also are the fogs on the mk2 h3's as if i'm gonna order a set of xenons may as well get the whole lot!!

sorry for the length of this,usual early morning ramble

 

[projectgingawar]

have you checked your alternators output when they're switched on? only reason is that HID's need a mahoosive current to fire up. just check that it's at 13-14v on idle. probably something else causing it but worth a check eh?

 

[beezertart]

have you checked your alternators output when they're switched on? only reason is that HID's need a mahoosive current to fire up. just check that it's at 13-14v on idle. probably something else causing it but worth a check eh?

nice one,will have a word with daddy later,car is running sweet and not losing power anywhere,newish alternator on there but will get that checked and the bulbs which are on there,been told they should be about 14v at idle too.if they're not reading at 14,any suggestions as to what to do?.may as well ask now

 

[Fl@pper]

if the car had twin lamps to start with have you disconnected the resistor yet as i swear that doesn't help on all previous mk2 matters and will be testing the theory myself in about 3 days

mk2 twin reflector lamps (gti) when on sidelights (no ign) you get inner sidelamps light up but when ignition is on the main beam illuminate with approx 1/4 voltage running through a resistor on the inner wing

now with normal bulbs it's no issue but with hid being i would imagine wanting some current draw upon startup i can see it activating and fighting against the resistor and drawing current from anywhere it can, i.e. dash illumination etc ???

to make sure (easily done) look to the inner wing to the LH behind the battery - behind that panel is a resistor which is plugged in with a small yellow loom and connector

disconnecting it causes just sidelights alone to work both ignition on/off therefore eradicating it from the circuit and no great loss

if you have some issues with hid in original twin lamp cars i would suggest testing it without the resistor connected i know i will be soon

 

[beezertart]

if the car had twin lamps to start with have you disconnected the resistor yet ?

i swear that doesn't help on all previous mk2 matters and will be testing the theory myself in about 3 days

hmm,not sure actually.where is it,got any pics,sorry blonde female!!

will get some pics later hopefully so can see how bad it is,they don't even hit the car in front when i'm driving!!

 

[beezertart]

cheers Flaps,i did look for this before now thinking back but couldn't see it,probably checked on the wrong side!! will also sling the spare bulbs in as they're prob about 2yrs old now and have been transported etc so maybe damaged in some way,all worth a go i guess

 

[GTV]

nice one,will have a word with daddy later,car is running sweet and not losing power anywhere,newish alternator on there but will get that checked and the bulbs which are on there,been told they should be about 14v at idle too.if they're not reading at 14,any suggestions as to what to do?.may as well ask now

The resistor is fitted in the passenger side wing if fitted, it was fitted to the older cars, our Ibiza is a 1997 and has the standard headlights and has it fitted where as the Vario which is a 1999 has the plug for it but no resistor.
I will see if I can dig out a photo of it, as I took some to find out what it was for

 

[beezertart]

The resistor is fitted in the passenger side wing if fitted, it was fitted to the older cars, our Ibiza is a 1997 and has the standard headlights and has it fitted where as the Vario which is a 1999 has the plug for it but no resistor.
I will see if I can dig out a photo of it, as I took some to find out what it was for

mines registered in june 98 so between the 2 of yours, as said i think i looked but couldn't see one,another bit Pedro forgot to add Thanks GTV, i shall be armed with camera later to see what i can find

 

[Fl@pper]

if you slide your hand down the outside edge of the battery you will feel the bolt that holds it in

it's inside the wing/wheelarch area but if ya lucky you can just get the connector unclipped and into the engine bay

if you are having hid issues just unplug it and see if that helps

 

[Aguilo]

Hello!

I have the same angel eyes as you.


With halogenous bulbs, the lighting was not very good.


At first, I placed a 6000K HID kit. Better but not still satisfying...

I have just installed(settled) bulbs HID 4300K. Whiter and especially more brilliant!

It is moreover the genuine HID Volkswagen color. It's more beautiful for me.


It is necessary to know that in HID, more the color is blue, less the intensity of lighting will be good.

3000K -- Intense Yellow / 3200 lumens,
4300K --Extreme White / 3100 lumens,
6000K --Diamond White / 2900 lumens,
8000K --Iceberg Blue / 2500 lumens,
10000K --Brilliant Blue / 2300 lumens,
12000K --Violet Purple / 2000 lumens


So 3000K is the best but it's really yellow.
12000K is pink, and the lighting is awful

(lumens = luminous flow)



Wich color do you have?


Here's my car :

left 4300K, right 6000K

Is it more blue than my ex-6000K HID?

 

[CraigW]

Ive got that yellow plug in the wing on my 1.4. Im guessing its just a standard loom thats used in these cars across all models?

 

[Fl@pper]

could well be i would imagine most of em have it in reality

turn sides on and check just one bulb on

then ignition on and check sides see if they now have a diffused yellow glow as well

if so then the resistor is fitted

as to wether it is a cause of HID problems i will relay back later as i'll test mine both with and without but need to strip these morettes down first and get the adjustments all sorted properly

 

[beezertart]

had a quick look earlier and i can't see any resistors should there definitely be one?? was also tonight trying to get a pic of the projection but failing as flash overrode the light and with it off went into nightmode and can't see the area either!! stuck a tester on the battery and got a full 14v but haven't tested the ballasts or bulbs themselves as no time and wasn't quite sure what to attach the tester to in terms of +ve n -ve.

managed a video instead just a couple of secs will have to work out how to get it on here though.... am gonna be out there tomorrow as have the morning off so can have a good look as space is so tight any shadows n you can't see jack! it looks like the relays are wired to the full beam and not the dipped also so will get a proper peek in the cold light of day and let you know.think i may just go back to standard lights if i can get a replacement n/s at a reasonable cost but that was why i ended up with the angels in the first place!!!

 

[beezertart]

try this one instead!!!

 

[jamiebennett81]

does this work better:

 

[beezertart]

thanks hun, novice me,apologies for it being the wrong way round everyone!!

 

[Fl@pper]

it is pretty well hidden as it sits under the inner wing behind the battery and behind that inner wing panel

probably see it easier looking from inside the wheelarch with a wheel off to be honest

ill get some pics when i strip mine out

 

[rodenal]

Hids also need your lenses to be very clean to work effectively - which might not be helping your visibility issuse much?

 

[beezertart]

just been out n stood on my head trying to switch bulbs around etc,anyway decided too much of a pain so shoved in the new hid bulbs i've got,which happen to be h7 although the ones i took out are h1(could've sworn they were h7's but the new ones went in ok! bought a spare kit only for a new ballast) look a fair bit brighter already but the proof will be in the pudding later still can't find a resistor but can't get a wheel off at the moment....

 

[jamiebennett81]

just been out n stood on my head trying to switch bulbs around etc,anyway decided too much of a pain so shoved in the new hid bulbs i've got,which happen to be h7 although the ones i took out are h1(could've sworn they were h7's but the new ones went in ok! bought a spare kit only for a new ballast) look a fair bit brighter already but the proof will be in the pudding later still can't find a resistor but can't get a wheel off at the moment....

your having a bit of a mare at the moment aren't you hunni