1.6 tdi or 2.0 tdi?

[Neil1]

I know the 2.0 tdi engine is much punchier and has more go, but the 1.6 tdi engine has some impressive mpg figures.
But have been hearing a few issues with this engine regarding dpf.
What are Mk3 leon owners saying about the 1.6 tdi - are they a decent engine or not?

 

[Ckpearce91]

I have the 1.6 tdi. I like it. I find it gets to speed quite quickly in 3rd and 4th. The 2.0 fr owners though seem to be getting better mpg than me though. It's quite hard to get a high mpg in the 1.6 because it has to work harder to get to speed and has one less gear. But the new ecomotive has 6 gears and a nice body kit.


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[Pgcreature]

Can't answer the 1.6 Neil, but 2.0 184 is an amazingly powerful engine, tons of torque yet well behaved. I traded up from my mk 1 150tdi, and the difference is really noticeable. BUT my old mk 1 even when clocked 150k miles was still returning over 60mph on long journeys I can see that my mk3 is no way as economical no matter how I drive , but hey the car is meant to be driven and enjoyed and to pay a little more for a tankful is a small sacrifice for a smile on your face. Paul

 

[DeanC]

I posted somewhere about the 1.6tdi courtesy car I had while mine was in. It was fine around town and on the move but returned at least 10mpg worse economy than my 184.

2.0tdi if you are doing 30+ mile journeys and covering 15k a year or the 1.4tsi in my view.

 

[Neil1]

Currently doing 25 miles each way every day so at the moment a tdi seems to make sense. Ive seen so many 1.6 tdi for sale on 13 plate and they look quite good value. Just cannot seem to make up my mind. Did think about 1.2 tsi briefly but many people recommend putting in super unleaded in so does not work out much cheaper than diesel.

 

[Neil1]

Also the fact there are so many of these on autotrader seems to suggest people had them for a about 6 months then traded them in. Quite a few are on 10 -15k miles. Also not sure about the long term reliability.

 

[Cougar]

I posted somewhere about the 1.6tdi courtesy car I had while mine was in. It was fine around town and on the move but returned at least 10mpg worse economy than my 184.

2.0tdi if you are doing 30+ mile journeys and covering 15k a year or the 1.4tsi in my view.

+1 to this!

Definitely think you'd be better off with the 2.0 - even maybe in 150 power format if economy is high on your priority list.

 

[lil3520]

I do about 20,000 miles a year. so the 2.0 tdi would be better for me than the 1.6 tdi. looking at next year to change. got to finish off paying wife's FIAT 500.

 

[LeonCR]

Economy comes down to driving style and type of routes driven, I can guarantee you will get better MPG in the 1.6 if you are driving for economy

I have a 143 Exeo and depending on how I drive i can get anywhere from 40-65 mpg depending on how I am driving on the same route

Did once have a Toledo 1.6 CR as a loan car and managed 72 mpg on that was worked out on paper

 

[lil3520]

I do mainly dual carriageway and motorways. So the 1.6 tdi might be ok for me.

 

[DeanC]

Economy comes down to driving style and type of routes driven, I can guarantee you will get better MPG in the 1.6 if you are driving for economy

I have a 143 Exeo and depending on how I drive i can get anywhere from 40-65 mpg depending on how I am driving on the same route

Did once have a Toledo 1.6 CR as a loan car and managed 72 mpg on that was worked out on paper

My 1.6 courtesy car was worse on all the same routes driven more economical if anything. I was as suprised as the next guy. I get real world 65mpg + on my 184.

I do mainly dual carriageway and motorways. So the 1.6 tdi might be ok for me.

I do 200 motorway miles a day and the 1.6 was doing 55mpg at 70 while the 184 does 65.

 

[LeonCR]

My 1.6 courtesy car was worse on all the same routes driven more economical if anything. I was as suprised as the next guy. I get real world 65mpg + on my 184.

way you drove then

you wont get the same economy driving the same way

 

[lil3520]

2.0 tdi it is. Thanks for comments and advice. Cheers.

 

[DeanC]

way you drove then

you wont get the same economy driving the same way

It was exactly the same. Like i say i was suprised. Just what I observed. Many are saying the same on here and across the vag group though to be honest. Didn't top gear do ot once on skodas and the 2.0 was better and they followed eachother. Or the m3 vs prius thing they did.

 

[LeonCR]

It was exactly the same. Like i say i was suprised. Just what I observed. Many are saying the same on here and across the vag group though to be honest. Didn't top gear do ot once on skodas and the 2.0 was better and they followed eachother. Or the m3 vs prius thing they did.

Thats the point you were driving exactly the same way, a different engine needs to be driven in a different way to get the best out of it

as to the whole m3 thing, you compare a M3 sitting at 60 MPH and a prius at the same speed the Prius will do a hell of a lot better

 

[DeanC]

Thats the point you were driving exactly the same way, a different engine needs to be driven in a different way to get the best out of it

as to the whole m3 thing, you compare a M3 sitting at 60 MPH and a prius at the same speed the Prius will do a hell of a lot better

Got you. At a constant speed of 50 or 70 the 1.6 was at least 10mpg down and I cant really change that style. Maybe it makes more sense if you have a more varried journey. I cant help but think that changing your style on the 1.6 to gain eccomomy would result in the same gain on a 2.0 mind.

 

[Ckpearce91]

I managed to get 74mpg the other day after a 20 mile trip up the M1 doing in between 50 and 60 the whole way. And then I had to get off at my junction (thinking to myself, "goodbye 74mpg"). I'm thinking now to trade it in early and get the 184 but insurance will be a killer! So I guess I should just hold out for a couple of years. Is there much noticeable difference between the 184 and the 150 tdi?


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[DeanC]

I managed to get 74mpg the other day after a 20 mile trip up the M1 doing in between 50 and 60 the whole way. And then I had to get off at my junction (thinking to myself, "goodbye 74mpg"). I'm thinking now to trade it in early and get the 184 but insurance will be a killer! So I guess I should just hold out for a couple of years. Is there much noticeable difference between the 184 and the 150 tdi?


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Go on then I'll say it - 34ps.

I had a 150 demo for 2 weeks as the 184 was not being made at the time and I was impressed. It's easily as quick as the last gen 170 tdi leon / golf and much happier doing it.

Not a huge amount in it but it is noticeable. Not in any particular area but a bit better all over. For £1000, 3mpg and a few co2s it was a no brainer for me. (They have tweaked the co2 on the 184 to 112 now which does push you up a band. My early one is reguatered 109 and he same band as he 150).

You get better brakes and the sound actuator too remember.

 

[Ckpearce91]

Go on then I'll say it - 34ps.

I had a 150 demo for 2 weeks as the 184 was not being made at the time and I was impressed. It's easily as quick as the last gen 170 tdi leon / golf and much happier doing it.

Not a huge amount in it but it is noticeable. Not in any particular area but a bit better all over. For £1000, 3mpg and a few co2s it was a no brainer for me. (They have tweaked the co2 on the 184 to 112 now which does push you up a band. My early one is reguatered 109 and he same band as he 150).

You get better brakes and the sound actuator too remember.

So the 150 doesn't have the sound actuator? Also do you have the DSG gearbox?


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[DeanC]

So the 150 doesn't have the sound actuator? Also do you have the DSG gearbox?


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Nope.

No. Always hated DSG diesels.