Front brake discs & pads

[MA1601]

Any recommendations for pads and discs? I’m thinking TRW as they are the OEM supplier.

 

[Craig.]

TRW or ATE are the only 2 brands I use for pads and discs these days

 

[MA1601]

TRW or ATE are the only 2 brands I use for pads and discs these days

Where do you buy from?

 

[Craig.]

Where do you buy from?

Wherever is cheapest at the time

 

[SuperV8]

Any recommendations for pads and discs? I’m thinking TRW as they are the OEM supplier.

TRW are the OEM brake system/caliper supplier - but not the PAD supplier. They do not make OEM pads.
Same with ATE, Brembo, Bosch etc..

Personally I would but from pad friction lining producer.

For discs I would just get any coated disc with R90 approval - as this gives a reasonable max machining tolerance limit.

 

[MA1601]

TRW are the OEM brake system/caliper supplier - but not the PAD supplier. They do not make OEM pads.
Same with ATE, Brembo, Bosch etc..

Personally I would but from pad friction lining producer.

For discs I would just get any coated disc with R90 approval - as this gives a reasonable max machining tolerance limit.

Interesting. Who is it that makes the pads then?

 

[Craig.]

TRW and ATE are amongst the brands on OEM VW group brake pads...

 

[SuperV8]

TRW and ATE are amongst the brands on OEM VW group brake pads...

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So in both of your examples - ITT Galfer is the OEM pad producer.
Galfer is one of the bigger OEM manufactures.
7504FF is the OEM friction material.
TRW, and ATE on the second pad are just the brake system/caliper manufactures. As I said - they do not make the pads.

 

[SuperV8]

Brembo example from the Cupra sub 8:
Brembo caliper - Pagid made the pads/friction.

 

[Craig.]

So in both of your examples - ITT Galfer is the OEM pad producer.
Galfer is one of the bigger OEM manufactures.
7504FF is the OEM friction material.
TRW, and ATE on the second pad are just the brake system/caliper manufactures. As I said - they do not make the pads.

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That's great information, where would one buy an ITT brake pad from?

 

[SuperV8]

That's great information, where would one buy an ITT brake pad from?

Seat, Skoda, Audi or VW

Joking aside - it's very rare to find an OEM pad in an Aftermarket box. Certainly, no one in the aftermarket has a whole range of OEM pads in their aftermarket range.

OEM and Aftermarket have very different requirements.
The OEM pads, for example, use fine blanked back plates (more accurate stamping process - but needs very expensive tooling), which works for high volume low variety part numbers of the OEM but not lower volume high variety of the aftermarket. These tools are usually owned by the OEM so even if the producer wanted to sell them independently they wouldn't be allowed.

OEM uses tailored friction materials, fine tuned for the specific application over years of testing - vs aftermarket where some budget/premium brands only use 1 or 2 materials to cover their entire pads range!

OEM uses tailored anti-noise shims, AM generally uses a couple of types, or even just a crappy metal shim.

I can usually find the OEM pad for a good price - similar/not much more to the 'big name' aftermarket brands.

 

[nd-photo.nl]

@SuperV8 Interesting information, thanks!