Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

[Gardz86]

Tried without the text changed in the file also, so at a bit of a loss now. Especially as the firmware update has worked fine. I copied the files inside the main folder, one called 'market' and the text file rather than the full root file, might that be why? The system does say it contains the navigation database when I put it in then just gets stuck on 'Checking navigation database'.

Answers on a postcard haha

 

[Tell]

Attached is the pdf of how to do it for a mib1 standard as far as file position. Should be the full route not burried one down against a zipped directory name. Standard mistake.

Full pdf attached. Snap of what it should like the positioning. That inside image. Market is one down from the top. The top aka route has that text file in it.

Obviously the snap below is my screen. See the pdf for a read.

Also you need for force a reboot of the unit everytime you change the SD card else within that 20 minute power up slot it won't re-read the card afresh. The long hold on on/off. Clipping to read only has been said to be good as well.

 

[Gardz86]

Attached is the pdf of how to do it for a mib1 standard as far as file position. Should be the full route not burried one down against a zipped directory name. Standard mistake.

Full pdf attached. Snap of what it should like the positioning. That inside image. Market is one down from the top. The top aka route has that text file in it.

Obviously the snap below is my screen. See the pdf for a read.

Also you need for force a reboot of the unit everytime you change the SD card else within that 20 minute power up slot it won't re-read the card afresh. The long hold on on/off. Clipping to read only has been said to be good as well.

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OK, I've tried rebooting also. I have attached two screen shots. The one with more part numbers is the old SD card (bought off ebay, so not for my car maybe?) the other one is the new maps I downloaded.

What should I be changing, if anything? My old card doesn't even have a part number one like the new one?

Other screenshot is the system info which has a part number, am I missing something here. Tried a couple of different things.

 

[Tell]

OK, I've tried rebooting also. I have attached two screen shots. The one with more part numbers is the old SD card (bought off ebay, so not for my car maybe?) the other one is the new maps I downloaded.

What should I be changing, if anything? My old card doesn't even have a part number one like the new one?

Other screenshot is the system info which has a part number, am I missing something here. Tried a couple of different things.

The mib2 cards are interchangeable as far as the CID is concerned so one does not expect an issue on that one. Previously before this 2023 map came out the recovery for mib1 where the card was lost was to buy a mib2 card and put the old map file on it. I'm wondering whether you could try an old mib1 map file on it if posters can give you one. It would be good to see whether it showed you can old map.

Note what @Guyelle said

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

The DBInfo.txt from the P106 7z doesn't have PartNumber 2, 3 or 4. I'm wondering whether to add them (as well as changing the others). I keep the ECE 2013 from the new (P106 7z) & also the ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106" ? I'm being careful to keep the CRLF line ends and add no other...

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Where the old working file comes in. You need that. Mib2 you can use files before the paired release in the unit. It may be the same so you might not need to drop your hands on the exact paired release or one before or work through all previous partnumbers till you hit on the right one.

Thus an appeal to all mib1 standard people with working maps !. I'd get your hands on an old map. It's the dbinfo.txt file you need from one that works then do the edit on the new maps as outlined.

You never know old posts on this thread may help like this one:

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

Any news here?? Any news here?

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I'd go down that route of hunting down the old partnumbers published and do @Guyelle edit as suggested. Anchoring before the actual one may do the trick. Also if people with working old mib1 files could share theirs.

 

[Gardz86]

The mib2 cards are interchangeable as far as the CID is concerned so one does not expect an issue on that one. Previously before this 2023 map came out the recovery for mib1 where the card was lost was to buy a mib2 card and put the old map file on it. I'm wondering whether you could try an old mib1 map file on it if posters can give you one. It would be good to see whether it showed you can old map.

Note what @Guyelle said

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

The DBInfo.txt from the P106 7z doesn't have PartNumber 2, 3 or 4. I'm wondering whether to add them (as well as changing the others). I keep the ECE 2013 from the new (P106 7z) & also the ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106" ? I'm being careful to keep the CRLF line ends and add no other...

www.seatcupra.net

Where the old working file comes in. You need that. Mib2 you can use files before the paired release in the unit. It may be the same so you might not need to drop your hands on the exact paired release or one before or work through all previous partnumbers till you hit on the right one.

Thus an appeal to all mib1 standard people with working maps !. I'd get your hands on an old map. It's the dbinfo.txt file you need from one that works then do the edit on the new maps as outlined.

You never know old posts on this thread may help like this one:

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

Any news here?? Any news here?

www.seatcupra.net

I'd go down that route of hunting down the old partnumbers published and do @Guyelle edit as suggested. Anchoring before the actual one may do the trick. Also if people with working old mib1 files could share theirs.

OK, that sounds good. Is there any means of knowing the part number or a list of ones I can try? Or just trial and error using the thread?

Secondly, Should I be copying all of them over? For example the card I had bought had Part numbers up to 4 but the new maps only had two entries.

Will also try what Guyelle suggested also.

I saw someone shared a V4 map set before so fingers crossed some people come up trumps for me and then I can try that.

It's frustrating as I feel so close but also so far away! haha

 

[Gardz86]

This is the card I have if this is at all useful to anyone who might be able to supply maps etc

 

[Tell]

This is the card I have if this is at all useful to anyone who might be able to supply maps etc

Yes they could put the mib1 map on it and test if they have mib1 with the update or give you an old copy of mib1 maps if they have that. A test on another mib1 would test the CID but that should be fine for mib1. Over to the helping hands.

 

[Daz3d]

Yeah I updated my firmware and maps without doing any coding with a cable.

To save purchasing any SD cards I backed up the old map data, deleted all files from the V4 SD (not format), used that SD for the firmware update, then copied the old maps back (before I found the newer maps). I don't recommend that though as it'll cause more wear.

When copying the newer maps I extracted them to my PC first, modified the DBInfo slightly then deleted some Turkey & Ukraine stuff so it would fit and not fail randomly whilst copying.

Later I got a cheap cable and with coding I was able to clear the hidden error that shows when using diagnostics and then also got the TMC traffic info working again.

This is the SD that came with our 2014 car, I've shared it here unzipped which might save time (there might be a download as zip option somewhere). The Mega desktop app etc has been fine to use for me.

5.68 GB folder on MEGA

7039 files and 1526 subfolders

mega.nz

(I may have to delete this in future to save cloud space, so back it up and also sign up to save it directly to a free MEGA account).

FRONT:
SEAT
Navigation AT
Europe (V4)

5F0.919.866.F

203618 [On left side]

BACK:
CE
AF8GSDP TASD0-14010010
291323M85S E1404BA
MADE IN TAIWAN


WINDOWS INFO:
-----
5.91 GB Used
1.57 GB Free
Capacity 7.48 GB
FAT32


DbInfo.txt:
PartNumber1="8V0919866B "
PartNumber2="5G0919866F "
PartNumber3="5E0051236C "
PartNumber4="5F0919866F "
PartNumber="8V0919866B "
ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0036"
SystemName=" ECE 2014 "

 

[Tell]

Great.

The clear code generators have come on to this one now which is widely used:

I'm So XORy

fix DTC 1555 / B201A (Checking software version management)

mib-helper.com

Old days you had to fiddle with look ups. That's used on mib2 but reckon it will do the trick with mib1 and a coding device.

Think the unit works with the error but deleting it just makes it feel perfect. Software version management toggle that gets set if you change the firmware but dealers ignore that in the anarchy of the MQB Evo platform which generates many errors. Mib2 certainly runs fine with an SVM flag.

So we are expecting positive reports .

 

[Gardz86]

Yeah I updated my firmware and maps without doing any coding with a cable.

To save purchasing any SD cards I backed up the old map data, deleted all files from the V4 SD (not format), used that SD for the firmware update, then copied the old maps back (before I found the newer maps). I don't recommend that though as it'll cause more wear.

When copying the newer maps I extracted them to my PC first, modified the DBInfo slightly then deleted some Turkey & Ukraine stuff so it would fit and not fail randomly whilst copying.

Later I got a cheap cable and with coding I was able to clear the hidden error that shows when using diagnostics and then also got the TMC traffic info working again.

This is the SD that came with our 2014 car, I've shared it here unzipped which might save time (there might be a download as zip option somewhere). The Mega desktop app etc has been fine to use for me.

5.68 GB folder on MEGA

7039 files and 1526 subfolders

mega.nz

(I may have to delete this in future to save cloud space, so back it up and also sign up to save it directly to a free MEGA account).

FRONT:
SEAT
Navigation AT
Europe (V4)

5F0.919.866.F

203618 [On left side]

BACK:
CE
AF8GSDP TASD0-14010010
291323M85S E1404BA
MADE IN TAIWAN


WINDOWS INFO:
-----
5.91 GB Used
1.57 GB Free
Capacity 7.48 GB
FAT32


DbInfo.txt:
PartNumber1="8V0919866B "
PartNumber2="5G0919866F "
PartNumber3="5E0051236C "
PartNumber4="5F0919866F "
PartNumber="8V0919866B "
ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0036"
SystemName=" ECE 2014 "

This is great. I'll give it a go, thank you.

May need a slightly more Lehman's terms explanation though.

I've downloaded it and unzipped onto the SD card. Should I try this in the car and see if maps load, then try update the maps and use the modded DBinfo with them and try in the car again?

I have a 32gb SD so don't think I need to delete anything.

In terms of clearing the error, is this a specific infotainment system thing, not a thing a mechanic can clear with a cable plugged in to the car?

I've learnt so much (seeing as I knew nothing a couple of days ago) but still don't understand a lot of the technical stuff. I do obsess over these things and try learn as much as quick as possible though, Doing my girlfriends head in haha!

 

[Tell]

This is great. I'll give it a go, thank you.

May need a slightly more Lehman's terms explanation though.

I've downloaded it and unzipped onto the SD card. Should I try this in the car and see if maps load, then try update the maps and use the modded DBinfo with them and try in the car again?

I have a 32gb SD so don't think I need to delete anything.

In terms of clearing the error, is this a specific infotainment system thing, not a thing a mechanic can clear with a cable plugged in to the car?

I've learnt so much (seeing as I knew nothing a couple of days ago) but still don't understand a lot of the technical stuff. I do obsess over these things and try learn as much as quick as possible though, Doing my girlfriends head in haha!

It should happily work with the errors. It's a perfectionist thing to get rid of them after.

You could try the mega file first since that's a test of whether your car works with that map release. If it does then 2023 update should. You go back to your 2023 release and put in @Daz3d last file in place of the dbinfo.txt. The edit being done for you. You just slot it in but ofcourse that's dependent on whether that first unmodified file works in your car. Why I said do that first to test it.

 

[Gardz86]

@Tell you are a diamond and thank you @Daz3d , it's working! Needed the old maps on first like you said. All sorted! Thanks so so much!

 

[Tell]

That's good. I do worry about my advice at times . Two maths degrees and I look for symmetry . I suspect the 480 firmware is modded or dates to when Seat made it free or just maybe that part number switch was always the secret back to the birth of mib1. I did worry whether you'd infotainment unit had ever been enabled for maps. Mib2 standard went out primed, they just needed the card put in then anchored on that as the first card. Yours might have done the same if it had never had a map card in it or may be it had and that release was it or it used the same feature as mib2 standard and putting in old maps before your current release worked. Then the mod worked.

A big thank you to @Daz3d for posting up the original find:

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I downloaded the file on Briskoda yesterday, the Skoda one, and as you say it doesn't unpack properly, lots of errors. The size when unzipped is nearly 200mb smaller than the 330 maps. Yes the Audi mib2 high only file is error free and works. If it's true that because the TT was fitting mib2...

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A working Mib1 map card (or Mib2 standard card for the CID) and the mods above if the card is lost.

@Daz3d gets the credit for finding the 2023 map update and the trick of doing the update. I thought the map update to mib1 died many years ago for Seat as people never had any consistent success due to mapcare for life not being offered on Seats unlike VW and Skoda - no reliable workarounds existed for Seat. Those updates finished being made available via their web servers several years back until this one came along. Basically the part number switch anchors the unit to think it's still reading the map card of the release installed in Audi terms whilst the card data has changed. Similar to the overall.nds trick of mib2. The card is paired to the unit on that basis. Moot point whether you really read 480 but perhaps you do to make it work. You just go down one route that you know works. 480 firmware and the map update are both on the mibsolutions site. On 480 note the warning about changing the long string but that hasn't come up yet as an issue. Putting it on a mib2 card means you don't have to delete any countries to make it fit the original card and of course you retain back up of what you had before.

 

[Radymir]

Hi everyone,

I tried updating my MIB1 maps to the 2020 version, but it didn’t work and I ended up deleting the original data on my SD card. As I've seen a V4 version here, does anyone have a backup of MIB1 Europa V3 5F0.919.866E they could share?

 

[Tell]

The secret is to back it up to HD before you start. @Daz3d is that yours ?. The mega file you took back off.

You might be able to kick start it on an older release than the one you are on. That is a feature of Mib to go backwards on releases then do the mod.

 

[Tell]

June 2024 - (2024-2025) Mib2 High (Seat Plus) release has appeared on VW servers sniffed out by MartiniB of the Briskoda site. He runs a program looking for these files.

Earlier in the year, I posted up the walk on the wild side update for those that wanted to do it:

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

How to figure out the size of the cards that are for sale? (And that they have a suitable CID?) I'd be happy (happier!) not to have to hack down to size of my MIB1. The mib2 one will be 16gb unless they sell them as 32gb...

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It turned out, it wasn't so wild which I didn't think it was. That Audi version of the files is the final version as released on the VW website.

Europe (370):

https://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P370_N60S5MIBH3_EU.7z

RoW (373):

https://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P373_N60S5MIBH3_ROW.7z

or

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/P373_N60S5MIBH3_ROW.7z

To load these up on a Seat you need the lifelong navigation FeCs else it won't work. Details in the resource.

You just need to get them unzipped and in the root directory on an SD card (or USB) as normal. Metafile in the root, mib1 and mib2 are subdirectories of the root. You do need both. Note the normal Mac instructions for those using a Mac of CleanMyDrive. See resource tabbed under Overview above. TMC Inrix works as per normal with the code change. Latest maps ✔.

 

[Walone]

June 2024 - (2024-2025) Mib2 High (Seat Plus) release has appeared on VW servers sniffed out by MartiniB of the Briskoda site. He runs a program looking for these files.

Earlier in the year, I posted up the walk on the wild side update for those that wanted to do it:

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

How to figure out the size of the cards that are for sale? (And that they have a suitable CID?) I'd be happy (happier!) not to have to hack down to size of my MIB1. The mib2 one will be 16gb unless they sell them as 32gb...

www.seatcupra.net

It turned out, it wasn't so wild which I didn't think it was. That Audi version of the files is the final version as released on the VW website.

Europe (370):

https://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P370_N60S5MIBH3_EU.7z

or

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/P370_N60S5MIBH3_EU.7z

RoW (373):

https://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P373_N60S5MIBH3_ROW.7z

or

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/P373_N60S5MIBH3_ROW.7z

To load these up on a Seat you need the lifelong navigation FeCs else it won't work. Details in the resource.

You just need to get them unzipped and in the root directory on an SD card (or USB) as normal. Metafile in the root, mib1 and mib2 are subdirectories of the root. You do need both. Note the normal Mac instructions for those using a Mac of CleanMyDrive. See resource tabbed under Overview above. TMC Inrix works as per normal with the code change. Latest maps ✔.

Hi @Tell , I'm just wondering how they have managed to reduce the maps from around 29Gb (350 maps) to 16.5Gb (370 maps)? I've done a quick comparison between the map files and it seems as though they've deleted the 3D files?

 

[Tell]

Hi @Tell , I'm just wondering how they have managed to reduce the maps from around 29Gb (350 maps) to 16.5Gb (370 maps)? I've done a quick comparison between the map files and it seems as though they've deleted the 3D files?

Previously the Mib2 high release was a combined Mib1 high / Mib2 high release. It contained files that support both, old and new. Audi always supplied via their closed channel the releases, broken down into Mib1 and Mib2. Thus, VW are just supporting Mib2 high with this. We can probably assume they aren't supporting Mib1 high now.

Whilst you see Mib1 and Mib2 directory names, the directory names are in fact meaningless, you must present all of this release to the unit. It ducks and dives between the directories to extract out what it needs.

 

[Tell]

Previously the Mib2 high release was a combined Mib1 high / Mib2 high release. It contained files that support both, old and new. Audi always supplied via their closed channel the releases, broken down into Mib1 and Mib2. Thus, VW are just supporting Mib2 high with this. We can probably assume they aren't supporting Mib1 high now.

Whilst you see Mib1 and Mib2 directory names, the directory names are in fact meaningless, you must present all of this release to the unit. It ducks and dives between the directories to extract out what it needs.

3D files, well on the Audi one I've seen a cathedral that wasn't there before. It's a joy when you see them.

I stopped installing the VW release since SWDL showed the release codes in the entities were the same which meant no work to do. Rather than sit about in the car my checks said it was fine. I did look at the file contents between the Audi v VW and they looked identical. Possibly mib1 high version name of the 3D you found missing. The mib2 high 3D was covered.

Recommend you install and look for London Bridge etc. If it doesnt work you can, using SWDL restore your old version, there is always the Audi version . You do manual install and run your fingers across the menu, with the door open, or open and close every 15 minutes...

 

[Tell]

Audi 370

How to nudge it up to VW if on Audi 370. St Paul's and Tate Modern in the Audi 370 file. So 3D was in it.

Swdl update all using manual method (manual download and press start), Select All and Start with the VW 370 upload if you Audi 370 in it and want to overwite with VW 370.

Will edit for each stage. Now a forced update of Audi 370 to VW 370. 40 minutes running.

And successfully updated to VW 370 (same release as the Audi one) & 3D the same as before.

So yes identical, but I put it through completely rather than say I've done file comparisons. It's available to use if your got the navigation FeCs.