Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

[Tell]

The DBInfo.txt from the P106 7z doesn't have PartNumber 2, 3 or 4. I'm wondering whether to add them (as well as changing the others).

I keep the ECE 2013 from the new (P106 7z) & also the
ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106" ?

I'm being careful to keep the CRLF line ends and add no other stuff.

Originally posted.

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I downloaded the file on Briskoda yesterday, the Skoda one, and as you say it doesn't unpack properly, lots of errors. The size when unzipped is nearly 200mb smaller than the 330 maps. Yes the Audi mib2 high only file is error free and works. If it's true that because the TT was fitting mib2...

www.seatcupra.net

OK I'm doing an edit to the reply I gave to this.



Basically it's an Audi file so what Audi must have done is released it without the other brands part numbers on it. Copying your old part number for the map onto the new release in Audi form as said must fake the unit to think you aren't updating the map without mapcare (Audi old partnumber goes into the new map partnumber field). At worst if it isn't seeing the other part numbers you won't see a part number for Seat. You'll get a gap. Don't forget the reboot if you are switching cards quickly.

(Didnt change that text much above)

Basically looking at Daz3d screens above the old maps had the 5F part number in it. New maps swapped to an Audi part number.

The instruction was

》》
Change the following in the new DBInfo.txt (I didn't test if you could skip this step):

PartNumber1="V03959803RQ"
PartNumber="V03959803RQ"

TO

PartNumber1="V03959803RN"
PartNumber="V03959803RN"

《《

I'm assuming you can see those V codes in your original file... probably not ?. If you can take the V code and use that.

OK if it needs that edit to make it work it probably runs on the old mapcare rule that maps before the release work but not maps beyond. That would be if you had a navigation file of release 36 ECE 2014 or before. Depends what year V03959803RQ is linked to. hmm that doesn't appear to be as far back as 2014.

I'd try with the edit. If that doesnt work without the edit. If that fail back to the links that Daz3d put up. Audi might have removed mapcare from this file so is no longer fussy.

Reading the thread:

Support - Kartenmaterial Update SD-Karte Discover AT (MIB1)

Wie mach ich das?

www.digital-eliteboard.com

It seems to work without the part number edit. Whether you need the latest firmware... others on this thread had it where it worked. On the German thread they messed up the country edit to reduce to the original 8gb card. With the 16gb card you can't go wrong on that. I'd ignore the CID talk you need a valid Vag card. Won't be the CID. Really that then leaves the firmware as to whether that needs updating I reckon if issues.

 

[Guyelle]

The DBInfo.txt from the P106 7z doesn't have PartNumber 2, 3 or 4. I'm wondering whether to add them (as well as changing the others).

I keep the ECE 2013 from the new (P106 7z) & also the
ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106" ?

I'm being careful to keep the CRLF line ends and add no other stuff.

For the ECE version, just paste in:
SystemName=" ECE 2023 "

Don’t touch the part numbers at all; use a copy of your original dbinfo.txt from the old card, and change these lines:

ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106"
SystemName=" ECE 2023 "

you do not need to add any other part numbers or anything, just use the original d info.txt with those two lines amended.

 

[Tell]

Give it a go

 

[Gardz86]

Hi All,
First time Seat owner and I'm a bit clueless. Tried reading through lots but my first and biggest issue is my car came with no SD card. Sat Nav appears enabled and my version is 5F003585A, which is think is Mib1?

Can anyone point me in the right direction to getting an SD card that will work? And secondly to an idiot proof of making sure it has reasonably up to date maps? I know my way round a computer so hopefully will be OK doing this... I've scanned and it looks hard with mib1 I think? Any advice greatly appreciated!

 

[Tell]

Yes look at

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I downloaded the file on Briskoda yesterday, the Skoda one, and as you say it doesn't unpack properly, lots of errors. The size when unzipped is nearly 200mb smaller than the 330 maps. Yes the Audi mib2 high only file is error free and works. If it's true that because the TT was fitting mib2...

www.seatcupra.net

Get a mib2 16gb card off ebay as I said below on that link. You need that card for the Vag "cid". You don't need to then hack the maps down to fit the 8gb card that you don't have... its easier. Read down from that link.

The only thing we don't know or I don't know is whether you need the latest mib1 firmware that East Yorkshire Retrofit sell. That is sold as a European release.... whether that is on the critical path to make it work, may be. The others following had that firmware unless someone says otherwise who has it working. The issue with that firmware you might need to do some coding vcds / obdeleven to install it. As per East Yorkshire website. I suspect its modified shareware but I might be wrong.

Basically get a 16gb mib2 card. Put the mib1 map update on it and see whether it works. If not think about the firmware update. I'd follow @Daz3d instructions.

 

[Gardz86]

Yes look at

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I downloaded the file on Briskoda yesterday, the Skoda one, and as you say it doesn't unpack properly, lots of errors. The size when unzipped is nearly 200mb smaller than the 330 maps. Yes the Audi mib2 high only file is error free and works. If it's true that because the TT was fitting mib2...

www.seatcupra.net

Get a mib2 16gb card off ebay as I said below on that link. You need that card for the Vag "cid". You don't need to then hack the maps down to fit the 8gb card that you don't have... its easier. Read down from that link.

The only thing we don't know or I don't know is whether you need the latest mib1 firmware that East Yorkshire Retrofit sell. That is sold as a European release.... whether that is on the critical path to make it work, may be. The others following had that firmware unless someone says otherwise who has it working. The issue with that firmware you might need to do some coding vcds / obdeleven to install it. As per East Yorkshire website. I suspect its modified shareware but I might be wrong.

Basically get a 16gb mib2 card. Put the mib1 map update on it and see whether it works. If not think about the firmware update. I'd follow @Daz3d instructions.

I don't suppose you could send me a link to the correct card?

I have about 12 different ones as liked items but some of the guys on there are saying some will work, some won't. But does that not matter if you get a mib2 card.

Thanks so much for responding and your help.

 

[Tell]

I don't suppose you could send me a link to the correct card?

I have about 12 different ones as liked items but some of the guys on there are saying some will work, some won't. But does that not matter if you get a mib2 card.

Thanks so much for responding and your help.

What DaveS bought is here. Seems good value for money.

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I'll give that a go, thanks 😊 Perhaps it's because it doesn't like the V18 card I bought, and didn't like me deleting files to make it fit on my 8GB? I am afraid I do not know the answer for these. Others have said they deleted files without problem and the the VW cards are OK.

www.seatcupra.net

The latest 32gb would cost £40 or so but you only need 16gb card. Doesn't matter if its old stock.

Guyelle then got it working. That's just above. If you track the names through on who had success and how.

 

[cupra14]

Give it a go

Hangs even after a reboot at Starting navigation...

Probably needs a firmware update.

Would hacking the maps down (instead of a firmware update) work?

 

[Tell]

Would hacking the maps down (instead of a firmware update) work?

No !.

It's probably that the firmware in the "final" release of mib1 makes it happen, release 480 so it works. The release could have fallen into the domain when Seat ceased Mapcare aka made it free which was 2019/2020. That might be why it works.

This is they, use Chrome to download it and login in as guest, guest

MIB Solution :: Login

It is signed so to me it hasn't been modified. If others with 480 can check this is the version. That would be useful.

Note this text that our friend kindly provided:

"If you're updating from a very early software version, you may need to change the byte 17/18 of the long coding to 01 or the unit will sit on the boot screen and appear broken and unusable. Please do not update if you have no way of carrying out this coding."

So if this is the 480 software laying on mibsolutions and you got old firmware then you may have to do that code change on the long string.

I think these are all the ingredients to make it work.

 

[Gardz86]

What DaveS bought is here. Seems good value for money.

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

I'll give that a go, thanks 😊 Perhaps it's because it doesn't like the V18 card I bought, and didn't like me deleting files to make it fit on my 8GB? I am afraid I do not know the answer for these. Others have said they deleted files without problem and the the VW cards are OK.

www.seatcupra.net

The latest 32gb would cost £40 or so but you only need 16gb card. Doesn't matter if its old stock.

Guyelle then got it working. That's just above. If you track the names through on who had success and how.

Cool, that ones sold out annoyingly. Does the v3 bit matteras no more of those from what I can see? Plenty at v6 and above albeit more expensive. I think I can probably do the rest but knowing the compatibility of the cards seems the hardest part at the moment!

 

[Tell]

Cool, that ones sold out annoyingly. Does the v3 bit matteras no more of those from what I can see? Plenty at v6 and above albeit more expensive. I think I can probably do the rest but knowing the compatibility of the cards seems the hardest part at the moment!

No the version is the map version hence why they get cheaper but you aren't interested in what's on it. As said if you do need to update the firmware as well, you may need obdeleven or vcds coding on that long string. If you are use to coding then it's straightforward.

 

[Gardz86]

No the version is the map version hence why they get cheaper but you aren't interested in what's on it. As said if you do need to update the firmware as well, you may need obdeleven or vcds coding on that long string. If you are use to coding then it's straightforward.

Am I being stupid or is there anything stopping me getting something like this then

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11612773...0pNVPQlSn6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=Copy

Apologies for my stupidity.

 

[Tell]

Am I being stupid or is there anything stopping me getting something like this then

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11612773...0pNVPQlSn6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=Copy

Apologies for my stupidity.

You could use that one yes to copy mib1 maps onto it. Would seem reasonable.

 

[Gardz86]

OK, I have my SD card. Couple of questions...

I have copied the SD Card to my computer already and downloaded the files.

1. Do I need to change the part number for my car? Or is this something to trial and error?

2. The car came with no SD card in it, do I still need to keep the overall.nds file or is this something you only need to do if it is an existing card you are updating?

 

[Tell]

OK, I have my SD card. Couple of questions...

I have copied the SD Card to my computer already and downloaded the files.

1. Do I need to change the part number for my car? Or is this something to trial and error?

2. The car came with no SD card in it, do I still need to keep the overall.nds file or is this something you only need to do if it is an existing card you are updating?

I'll answer 2. First, no the overall.nds business is only for mib2 standard units, so that doesnt come into it.

1. @Daz3d did do the part number adjustment but didn't know whether it was necessary but it worked with it. If you read that thread he linked in his post it's said the adjustment isn't required. I'd make that adjustment. If it works try it out without and report back, first with and then without. It will resolve that.

3. Which you didn't have . All people who have done it have the 480 firmware installed. Thus I reckon that may be the key. Try without but bear in mind what I cut and pasted above about the installation of 480.

 

[Gardz86]

I'll answer 2. First, no the overall.nds business is only for mib2 standard units, so that doesnt come into it.

1. @Daz3d did do the part number adjustment but didn't know whether it was necessary but it worked with it. If you read that thread he linked in his post it's said the adjustment isn't required. I'd make that adjustment. If it works try it out without and report back, first with and then without. It will resolve that.

3. Which you didn't have . All people who have done it have the 480 firmware installed. Thus I reckon that may be the key. Try without but bear in mind what I cut and pasted above about the installation of 480.

Yeah I will give it a go. I have messaged and emailed East Yorkshire Retrofits about it over the last couple of days but not had any response, just wanted to check what exactly it was I needed off them. I will know tonight if I do and can then go about getting that from them if I do (sounds like thats the case).

Whilst I am here, if updating Firmware, would I put this on a totally separate SD Card to install it? Or have to wipe this one, put on here etc. I am 99% sure it won't make a difference what it is on but don't want to take any steps that might totally balls it up!

Thanks again for all of your help @Tell

 

[Gardz86]

Yeah I will give it a go. I have messaged and emailed East Yorkshire Retrofits about it over the last couple of days but not had any response, just wanted to check what exactly it was I needed off them. I will know tonight if I do and can then go about getting that from them if I do (sounds like thats the case).

Whilst I am here, if updating Firmware, would I put this on a totally separate SD Card to install it? Or have to wipe this one, put on here etc. I am 99% sure it won't make a difference what it is on but don't want to take any steps that might totally balls it up!

Thanks again for all of your help @Tell

Well I've tried and it's stuck here, so assume it's the firmware. I'll give that a go and see how I get on!

 

[Tell]

Yeah I will give it a go. I have messaged and emailed East Yorkshire Retrofits about it over the last couple of days but not had any response, just wanted to check what exactly it was I needed off them. I will know tonight if I do and can then go about getting that from them if I do (sounds like thats the case).

Whilst I am here, if updating Firmware, would I put this on a totally separate SD Card to install it? Or have to wipe this one, put on here etc. I am 99% sure it won't make a difference what it is on but don't want to take any steps that might totally balls it up!

Thanks again for all of your help @Tell

The firmware can be installed by USB or just a plain old SD card. Presentation is important. Unpack and stick it in the route directory. Don't have anything else on the SD card or USB just the firmware.

It's the East Yorkshire text I quoted above off their site for 480, what it means is there is a chance you need to do that else your unit will hang. Obdeleven Pro you work your way across the string, inspect. If like mib2 it will be your 5f unit, either way it's your infotainment unit. What it means in reality is check that string before you load 480. Adjust if required and then load 480 or perhaps before that fit a long press reboot to check it boots OK after the adjustment then do the 480 update. VCDS tools etc could be used alternatively.

Text:

"If you're updating from a very early software version, you may need to change the byte 17/18 of the long coding to 01 or the unit will sit on the boot screen and appear broken and unusable. Please do not update if you have no way of carrying out this coding."

So that pretty important. Now if your firmware at the minute was the same as the other people on the thread and they got away without it you'd fine. Perhaps they might say. Think @Daz3d shown in the before and after image.

 

[Tell]

Yes he went from 425 to 480 from picture. So I guess no coding was involved @Daz3d.

 

[Gardz86]

Yes he went from 425 to 480 from picture. So I guess no coding was involved @Daz3d.

So, updated the firmware fine. A message came up but assume that's the error message that just gets cleared.

Now I put the SD card with new maps (changed the text as mentioned) in after changing the file names and just get the 'checking navigation data' message.

Not a clue where I've gone wrong tbh. Unit works fine bar this message on navigation.