1.4 TSI Act cambelt nightmare

FRoSTy

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One thing I don't quite get is why, according to the OP, there is no damage to the cylinder head or valves!

the gudgeon pin seemingly prevents the piston going any higher. Gudgeon pin is just visible stuck in the engine block on photo 2.

Lots of bits of piston ring have come out.
 

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other remains...
 

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Like Rooster said, where is the piston? i think that the rod would bend under pressure and not break. If there is impact on the top of the piston it's more probable to be timing related but if so, the head and the valves would have some damage too. Also check that the parts are yours cause you never know :p that's why you need to be there when they open it. At my dealership they told me that they can scan the car and see the errors before failure. Maybe see the oil errors and understand better what happened.
I think that they started the engine with the wrong timing and hurt the engine.
 
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chriswales6

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Surely valve contact wouldn’t have done that to a piston? That’s either been overheated or put under a lot of stress. Anyone know if that engine has oil cooler pistons?

My guess would still be timing, the spark firing too early while it was still on the compression stoke. It wouldn’t need to be out by much since the piston would get hit a few hundred times a minute.
 

FRoSTy

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Was there ever a resolution to this. Did garage admit fault?

Thanks for the prompt!

I got my car back on Tuesday evening. New engine block and cam in, and strangely a new clutch plate. Head and other bits from my old engine.

Garage didn't accept that they had caused it, but didn't charge me anything to put it right. So no complaints on that. I'd lined up an independent inspection in case, but not needed.

If anyone here wrote off a blue 1.4tsi 3 door 2015 with around 65,000 miles on it, thanks, I've got most of your engine.

I had it running on the drive today, and listened hard to the engine. Slight ticking sound, not quite sure was there before. Garage suggested an oil change was needed once it had settled in.

I'm now pondering if to trade in and move on. Working from home at the moment so no need to make a hasty decision, but not sure I'll trust it for a while.
 
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Thanks for the prompt!

I got my car back on Tuesday evening. New engine block and cam in, and strangely a new clutch plate. Head and other bits from my old engine.

Garage didn't accept that they had caused it, but didn't charge me anything to put it right. So no complaints on that. I'd lined up an independent inspection in case, but not needed.

If anyone here wrote off a blue 1.4tsi 3 door 2015 with around 65,000 miles on it, thanks, I've got most of your engine.

I had it running on the drive today, and listened hard to the engine. Slight ticking sound, not quite sure was there before. Garage suggested an oil change was needed once it had settled in.

I'm now pondering if to trade in and move on. Working from home at the moment so no need to make a hasty decision, but not sure I'll trust it for a while.

Yes, swiftly moving on would be pretty high on my agenda I think. :happy:

I did similar when one of my old cars got crashed into.

Front 1/4 got hit and needed all new parts, all the airbags popped, but it was just repaired. The repairers didn't do the electrics right so it went back twice and then I said bye bye to it!
 
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I think that would be better but the car is going to the garage who did the belt. It's an awkward situation.

I read an old thread on a Ford forum a while ago that really made me mad. A young guy had his car serviced at a Ford dealer. Engine destroyed itself immediately afterwards. The car was taken back to the garage and they spun him a story about the failure of some part or other causing oil loss. Poor kid was left with a huge bill.

From his description of what happened it was obvious that they had forgotten to put the damn oil in during the service. I've heard so many stories of garages doing damage then wriggling out of it. I really feel for you and hope you get a better resolution here.
Ford garages and oil....
I worked for the national rivers authority in the early nineties. We had a P1800 sierra pick up. Went to a Ford dealer for a service. No oil put in so needed a new engine. You guessed it they didn't put oil in the new one. They got it right on the 4th one!
 
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Ford garages and oil....
I worked for the national rivers authority in the early nineties. We had a P1800 sierra pick up. Went to a Ford dealer for a service. No oil put in so needed a new engine. You guessed it they didn't put oil in the new one. They got it right on the 4th one!
I've heard so many horror stories. I do as much as I can myself. I don't even let tyre shops take the wheels off! I remove the wheel, take it to them and refit it myself.
 
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I've heard so many horror stories. I do as much as I can myself. I don't even let tyre shops take the wheels off! I remove the wheel, take it to them and refit it myself.
I'm glad I'm not the only one.......Nothing does the OCD in more than the centre cap not lined up properly with the valve, and the locking bolt directly next to (or opposite, depending on the wheel design) the valve....
 

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Mr Pig

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I'm glad I'm not the only one.......Nothing does the OCD in more than the centre cap not lined up properly with the valve...
That's nothing! The last three times I've had tyres fitted Johnnie No-Stars Failed to clean the rim properly,or at all, and the balance weights fell off. After the first two I decided to go to a different place but not only did he not stick the weights on right he plugged a puncture without using any sealant. The only reason I knew about that is because I got another puncture in the same tyre two weeks later. Non for decades then two in the same tyre in two weeks!

And they wonder why you don't trust them?
 
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I'm glad I'm not the only one.......Nothing does the OCD in more than the centre cap not lined up properly with the valve, and the locking bolt directly next to (or opposite, depending on the wheel design) the valve....
You are not the only one with regards to the locking bolt! Now you've got me thinking about the centre cap!! :D
What I would like is ones like RR and Bentley that stay the correct way in relation to the ground.
 

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You are not the only one with regards to the locking bolt! Now you've got me thinking about the centre cap!! :D
What I would like is ones like RR and Bentley that stay the correct way in relation to the ground.
There was someone on Briskoda that put Bentley wheels on a Skoda Superb, with those self righting centres 😂
 
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