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Cupra R ABT issues
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If you have someone with you use the video on dragy it looks quite good
I just got my dragy and bought windshield mounts for both phone and dragy, can't wait to test it
To be fair I’d say the ABT box is performing where it should be based on my dragy results compared to others.
Results on dragy I’ve seen so far for the 2019 ST GPF.
My ABT (345hp ?) 0-60 4.18 & 12.41 1/4mile.
JB4 (375 dyno’d) 0-60 3.96 secs no 1/4 mile data.
APR stage 1 plus DSG map (375hp dyno’d) 0-60 3.67 & 12.06 1/4 mile.
Of course oil needs to be at 90’c for full power and other temps not too high to maintain it !! I think this is the key, summertime it will heat soak quickly and power ramp down as @Jenko found out on the track.
I’ve not had chance to do any more dragys yet and I’ve now got a full tank of fuel so will wait a week or so for that to get closer to the 1/4 mark before trying again to get a better launch.
I was having a look at my (ABT) 1/4 mile time and compared it to @Jenko (APR stage 1 plus DSG tune) times that are on dragy.
The only difference is on the launch, his launched quicker than mine as you can see on the g meter and his 0-60 time, It’s an instant launch
My launch was much slower, but once moving the speeds at 1/8, 1000ft and 1/4 mile are almost identical.. in fact my terminal speed at the end was slightly faster !
Wonder if the ABT box being a piggy back has some milliseconds delay that are visible when you launch whilst the box works out how much power it can give you based on the temps ??
Results on dragy I’ve seen so far for the 2019 ST GPF.
My ABT (345hp ?) 0-60 4.18 & 12.41 1/4mile.
JB4 (375 dyno’d) 0-60 3.96 secs no 1/4 mile data.
APR stage 1 plus DSG map (375hp dyno’d) 0-60 3.67 & 12.06 1/4 mile.
Of course oil needs to be at 90’c for full power and other temps not too high to maintain it !! I think this is the key, summertime it will heat soak quickly and power ramp down as @Jenko found out on the track.
I’ve not had chance to do any more dragys yet and I’ve now got a full tank of fuel so will wait a week or so for that to get closer to the 1/4 mark before trying again to get a better launch.
I was having a look at my (ABT) 1/4 mile time and compared it to @Jenko (APR stage 1 plus DSG tune) times that are on dragy.
The only difference is on the launch, his launched quicker than mine as you can see on the g meter and his 0-60 time, It’s an instant launch
My launch was much slower, but once moving the speeds at 1/8, 1000ft and 1/4 mile are almost identical.. in fact my terminal speed at the end was slightly faster !
Wonder if the ABT box being a piggy back has some milliseconds delay that are visible when you launch whilst the box works out how much power it can give you based on the temps ??
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Going to be controversial here. Matt uses proper timing equipment, not a Draggy
Nothing controversial there mate.
He uses Vbox for 0-60, even assuming the dragy is a 10th of a second out (worst case it’s probable only hundredth of a second out), my result is still faster than his.
4.4 vs 4.18.
Don’t know what he uses for 1/4 mile, but dragy is usually more accurate the longer the run so my 1/4 time of 12.4 is significantly faster than his 13.1 even accounting for any margin of errors
He uses Vbox for 0-60, even assuming the dragy is a 10th of a second out (worst case it’s probable only hundredth of a second out), my result is still faster than his.
4.4 vs 4.18.
Don’t know what he uses for 1/4 mile, but dragy is usually more accurate the longer the run so my 1/4 time of 12.4 is significantly faster than his 13.1 even accounting for any margin of errors
Having just done a quick google, it would appear that the Draggy isn't half bad. But what tyres, what road. All makes a difference. He recently did a test of an S3 saloon vs a CLA35 and was getting quicker times than quoted stock figures by some margin.Nothing controversial there mate.
He uses Vbox for 0-60, even assuming the dragy is a 10th of a second out (worst case it’s probable only hundredth of a second out), my result is still faster than his.
4.4 vs 4.18.
Don’t know what he uses for 1/4 mile, but dragy is usually more accurate the longer the run so my 1/4 time of 12.4 is significantly faster than his 13.1 even accounting for any margin of errors
You are exactly right. Many variables. All a factor.
Tyres are the same but the rest, yeah who knows.
Cant wait to get chance to try again when it’s not blowing a gale and peeing down with rain
Tyres are the same but the rest, yeah who knows.
Cant wait to get chance to try again when it’s not blowing a gale and peeing down with rain
Draggy (or Dragy) is very accurate, 1/100th of a second according to manufacturer. So that's not the issue, many other factors as you say.
I've tested dragy a little more now and my one and only LC was 4.09 s 0-60 mph in quite poor conditions. No doubt can go below 4.
JB4 map 6 around 360 hp, not dynoed.
I've tested dragy a little more now and my one and only LC was 4.09 s 0-60 mph in quite poor conditions. No doubt can go below 4.
JB4 map 6 around 360 hp, not dynoed.
Sorry mate missed this post.
I don’t look at the gauges so I don’t know. I will have my eye on them next time I’m booting it and let you know.
If the boost gauge is anything like the power gauge it’s just a toy gauge and for show only, doesn’t actually measure anything its just set to show certain value as rpm increases.
You can’t just unplug it, the whole harness would need disconnecting.
There is a bypass plug you can get from Richter motorsport if you want to drive stock only. You just disconnect the ABT Control Unit and connect the bypass to the harness.
Tried to have at look at his tonight but didn’t get a good focus on the value, was focused on keeping the car going straight as blowing a gail, sorry mate.
Re the launch control, this time launched from 4K rpm and it did indeed shave a 10th of a second off my time.
Did 2 runs and got the same reading twice of 4.09secs. Guess that’s me done then, doubt I’ll beat that unless get very favourable wind or something. Again had a very strong crossword that was blowing the car around on the 1/4 mile run.
Anyway I think I can conclude that the ABT tune does indeed work when temperature parameters are met.
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Well I never did get a reply back from Richter or ABT (and Seat didn’t know) with all the temp parameters, but basically Oil and Coolant need to be 90’c or above for full power. Any less and you get less power.
More importantly is the temps at which power starts to throttle down... this applies to Oil, Coolant, Intake and probably more. This is the info nobody knows and Richter and ABT have both ignored my specific requests for this.
More importantly is the temps at which power starts to throttle down... this applies to Oil, Coolant, Intake and probably more. This is the info nobody knows and Richter and ABT have both ignored my specific requests for this.
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