Ibiza FR 1.4 EcoTSI ordered

bcr5784

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I see the sub in the spare wheel well - is that a spare wheel there as well? If so it looks like you have to remove the sub to get the wheel out - 4 bolts. Am I seeing it right?
 

MantaOwner

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I have just swapped my 13 plate Cupra for the new one and it feels quicker and the ride is better, loving the manual gearbox aswell. Old Cupra did 6.7 to 60 not timed this one yet waiting till I hit 1000 miles before I give it full beans.
IMO 1000 miles is way too early to start flooring it, I'm staying below ~4000-4500 RPMs/~70-80% of max throttle till it hits a 3000-mile marker.
Car now has 1100 miles on the clock and the engine hasn't been driven in properly yet, I can feel it, difficult to explain but it has small 'gaps' in its running now and then during acceleration.

Tõnu
 

Fr2013

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I see the sub in the spare wheel well - is that a spare wheel there as well? If so it looks like you have to remove the sub to get the wheel out - 4 bolts. Am I seeing it right?


No, no spare wheel. Just the tyre 'gunk' set.

The sub is removed with one winding screw in the middle. I unplugged it earlier by taking out the electrical connector you can see there. The difference was vast!
 
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bcr5784

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I see from the brochure that there are 2 spare wheel options - one for the sound system, one without. I hadn't actually realised that the sound system (oddly) isn't actually an option on the ST at all until all this discussion about subs started, and the Media system plus I'm getting doesn't come with a sub anyway .

Not an issue to me - I rarely drive with the radio on. (except for traffic reports and I imagine the standard system will be OK for them)
 

Fino252

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IMO 1000 miles is way too early to start flooring it, I'm staying below ~4000-4500 RPMs/~70-80% of max throttle till it hits a 3000-mile marker.
Car now has 1100 miles on the clock and the engine hasn't been driven in properly yet, I can feel it, difficult to explain but it has small 'gaps' in its running now and then during acceleration.

Tõnu

maybe should give it more miles but it's to hard to resist.
 

markm49uk

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IMO 1000 miles is way too early to start flooring it, I'm staying below ~4000-4500 RPMs/~70-80% of max throttle till it hits a 3000-mile marker.

Car now has 1100 miles on the clock and the engine hasn't been driven in properly yet, I can feel it, difficult to explain but it has small 'gaps' in its running now and then during acceleration.



Tõnu



I disagree really - the tolerances in modern engines are much better than years ago. Oils are much improved too.

The biggest threat to a new engine is labouring it - trying to accelerate in too high a gear and making the engine labour. I see many new cars being driven at 20-25mph- no doubt in 5th gear. They will be doing more damage then those who use the engine enthusiastically.
 

MantaOwner

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.. The biggest threat to a new engine is labouring it - trying to accelerate in too high a gear and making the engine labour. ..
How do you know that labouring is worse to a new engine than flooring it?
Labouring isn't good for any engine really, new or old.
BTW I didn't say anything about labouring before.

Tõnu
 

markm49uk

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How do you know that labouring is worse to a new engine than flooring it?

Labouring isn't good for any engine really, new or old.

BTW I didn't say anything about labouring before.



Tõnu



Labouring leads to smoothing of cylinder bores and poor oil seals - It is the worse thing for an engine.
 

bcr5784

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I was brought up to believe that labouring is a BAD thing and in the past it was pretty obvious when this occurred and anyone with a reasonable amount of mechanical sympathy would respond accordingly.

These days of dual mass flywheels, fancy fluid engine mounts and the like, the driver is well isolated from the vibrations of a labouring engine. Despite this change gear lights on the dash seem to encourage letting the engine labour to the point where it is still fairly obvious.

However economical I want to be I can't bring myself to run the engine as low as the lights would suggest.
 

Fr2013

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The annoying thing is, the DSG drives the car 'laboured' most of the time in 'D' mode. All to do with eco stuff i guess. Left in sport mode the revs stay higher as it holds the gears for longer. So to combat the labouring I get in 'D' mode, I've been using Sport mode and bit and also been making use of the flappy paddles in manual mode to take the revs up that bit higher.

I have also very nearly hit the rev limiter accidentally (about 5.5-6k revs) in Manual mode when I forgot to change up :|
Ah well, it's getting a very good variation in revs!!
 

Tylerjet

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I had a go with the ecotrainer yesterday - it's interesting to see just how you need to drive to achieve a high score. I managed 84 points.



This is me driving on the motorway 120 km and 20km through the city had a few races as well lol....
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markm49uk

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I was brought up to believe that labouring is a BAD thing and in the past it was pretty obvious when this occurred and anyone with a reasonable amount of mechanical sympathy would respond accordingly.



These days of dual mass flywheels, fancy fluid engine mounts and the like, the driver is well isolated from the vibrations of a labouring engine. Despite this change gear lights on the dash seem to encourage letting the engine labour to the point where it is still fairly obvious.



However economical I want to be I can't bring myself to run the engine as low as the lights would suggest.



I agree with you on this - the lights are purely economy based and not entirely in the engines best interest.
 

markm49uk

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Cleaned the car inside yesterday - the mats that come with the FR are really good quality I noticed and as well as having fastenings on the drivers side have them on the passenger side also which I thought unusual.
 

bcr5784

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The annoying thing is, the DSG drives the car 'laboured' most of the time in 'D' mode. All to do with eco stuff i guess. Left in sport mode the revs stay higher as it holds the gears for longer. So to combat the labouring I get in 'D' mode, I've been using Sport mode and bit and also been making use of the flappy paddles in manual mode to take the revs up that bit higher.

I can (sort of) understand manufacturers setting up autos to give the very best economy figures in the government tests. of course, it's reprehensible if it reduces engine life subsequently.

But for manuals? There is no gain in government tests. I can't understand that.
 

Fr2013

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Can anyone post a picture of their idle speed when their engine is fully warmed up? I'm sure there's something funny regarding the fuel consumption on my car. Official figures for the urban cycle on the 1.0TSI is 53MPG.

The urban cycle for my old 1.2TSI was an official 43MPG. My fuelly figures for that car over 1 year of driving was 38MPG which is pretty bang on 10% less that what SEAT predicted in their official figures. 10% is a figure I see batted around quite a lot for variation in claimed MPG.

With that in mind, I'd be hoping to see at least 47MPG in my new car but currently it's sitting at 33MPG which I think is disappointing.

Id be interested to see other peoples idle speeds as I think mine looks a tad high, almost as if it's constantly a 'cold' engine.
 
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