Ronin225's Candy rimmed Black LCR - Project 500-4WD, Cage installed and bigger turbo

[Ronin225]

Popped over to Barn's last night to gap his plugs to suit the new coils and did some logs on his to see how it was looking.
After doing his we had a quick spat out in mine to see how mine was doing
Interestingly i hit limp mode during the one run, with the fault code of maximum charge pressure exceeded
Normally log upto about 6k rpm but thought id take it to the start of the red line for a fuller log since the g/s are rising still when i let off
Anyway with the new big filter on i'm seeing the engine start to back off % load to about 50% just before 6k rpm but producing top end of 190's.
Could 200g/s be flowing too much air for OE map??
Only change recently is filter and at high rpm boost starts to rise slightly, hence limp mode, any other causes as back to back logs with panel filter only showed this on the green filter?

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME					TIME				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
0.4	2760	76.81	100	9.8	0.01	0	0	0	0
1.2	3160	87.42	100	16.5	0.8	0	0	0	0
2.21	3680	108.94	100	18	1.71	0	0	0	0
3.01	4120	123.75	100	17.3	2.6	0	0	0	0
3.82	4520	132.39	100	19.5	3.4	0	0	0	0
4.62	4920	143.5	100	16.5	4.22	0	0	0	0
5.53	5320	165.42	100	15.8	5.12	0	0	0	0
6.43	5680	181.83	100	14.3	6.03	0	0	0	0
7.23	6000	194.94	100	16.5	6.83	0	0	0	0
8.04	6360	196.92	100	18	7.64	0	0	0	0
8.95	6680	176.47	43.5	20.3	8.56	0	0	0	3
9.76	6680	0	6.3	6.8	9.36	0	0	0	3
10.57	5240	125.86	34.5	24.8	10.16	0	0	0	0

 

[INA]

MRC as in Minhea? Very good guy ....also a friend of mine.

 

[Ronin225]

MRC as in Minhea? Very good guy ....also a friend of mine.

I think as in these guys
http://www.mrctuning.com/index.php

 

[sambryant]

could it not be a over reading maf?

 

[Ronin225]

Could be but with the normal airbox it read about what you'd expect
MAF isnt descreened so not turbulent air passing it
MAF's normally under read over time, i wouldnt expect it to go to the other extreme
I dont have another proven one to swap it with though

 

[sambryant]

they can over read, the effects are just as bad as under reading. i wouldnt say its sucking in too much air, its only taking in the air it needs. i guess its best if you could borrow a maf and see what difference that makes. by the way i ordered a set on inconel exhaust valves in the end ron i was going to ask you something, can you make some sort of alloy box to mount a wmi kit in, it will live in the boot?

 

[Ronin225]

I still have a couple of battery boxes left i made so if you give me the measurements i can see if it will fit
I have to say it does feel much quicker, but that could just be due to the low temps we're getting at the moment
Good move with the uprated valves, i didnt want to keep suggesting better options as i know you didnt want to have to uprate them

 

[sambryant]

lol i was joking, i want the best out of my car hybrid is as far as im going so what ever i need at that spec i will buy, im pretty sure i have everything now what size are the boxes. with the meth kit i can juggle it about to fit

 

[Ronin225]

Boxes are the same size as the battery (LxW) but height is only to the where the lid seals on the battery.
I can measure it tomorrow but cant remember of the top of my head.
The original 5083 prototype was sealed as well just incase anything leaked out
I was going to ask about the manual tensioner kit you got too as i think that is yet another thing i need to look at

 

[sambryant]

thanks ron. i will get the wmi kit out tomorrow and compare it to the size of my battery. i bought the Ie timing belt kit for 2 reasons, first being the same price as a normal kit here, and secondly i like the look of it, ok i know its a timing kit but bling bling what do you want to know about it? i can get you some close up pics tomorrow if you like.

 

[Ronin225]

I was speaking to Phill who bought just the tensioner but said there was another part he needed to be able to fit it
Some closer 'bling' pics would be nice

 

[Phillc]

THIS is what you need Tim.

 

[wild willy]

The extra flow of the green cone is most likely increasing boost beyond OE map presures which the n75 is struggling to control. Why are you still on OE map, your missing out.

 

[Phillc]

He has his stroker and BT to fit so not much point at the mo.

 

[cupra-barn]

He has his stroker and BT to fit so not much point at the mo.

No it's because he's gay!

Hoping I have something for you today Phill just awaiting the postman

 

[Phillc]

Oh you tease, has it come??????? Oh and yes your right its because he's gay

 

[cupra-barn]

Oh you tease, has it come??????? Oh and yes your right its because he's gay

lol I'm sat in the office now waiting for the damn postman! Better be here today they dispatched it Thursday. Fingers crossed

 

[Phillc]

Oh i'm all excited now let me know when/if it comes, oh and sorry for using your RR as a chat room Tim.

 

[ibizacupra]

Popped over to Barn's last night to gap his plugs to suit the new coils and did some logs on his to see how it was looking.
After doing his we had a quick spat out in mine to see how mine was doing
Interestingly i hit limp mode during the one run, with the fault code of maximum charge pressure exceeded
Normally log upto about 6k rpm but thought id take it to the start of the red line for a fuller log since the g/s are rising still when i let off
Anyway with the new big filter on i'm seeing the engine start to back off % load to about 50% just before 6k rpm but producing top end of 190's.
Could 200g/s be flowing too much air for OE map??
Only change recently is filter and at high rpm boost starts to rise slightly, hence limp mode, any other causes as back to back logs with panel filter only showed this on the green filter?

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME					TIME				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
0.4	2760	76.81	100	9.8	0.01	0	0	0	0
1.2	3160	87.42	100	16.5	0.8	0	0	0	0
2.21	3680	108.94	100	18	1.71	0	0	0	0
3.01	4120	123.75	100	17.3	2.6	0	0	0	0
3.82	4520	132.39	100	19.5	3.4	0	0	0	0
4.62	4920	143.5	100	16.5	4.22	0	0	0	0
5.53	5320	165.42	100	15.8	5.12	0	0	0	0
6.43	5680	181.83	100	14.3	6.03	0	0	0	0
7.23	6000	194.94	100	16.5	6.83	0	0	0	0
8.04	6360	196.92	100	18	7.64	0	0	0	0
8.95	6680	176.47	43.5	20.3	8.56	0	0	0	3
9.76	6680	0	6.3	6.8	9.36	0	0	0	3
10.57	5240	125.86	34.5	24.8	10.16	0	0	0	0

yes.
you have answered your own question.

exceeded the maps ability now with your mods.

 

[Ronin225]

Cheers for the input guys, not heard of many others having these problems but not many stay with an OE map very long anyway.
I'll be waiting until the stroker is fitted before any sort of software adjustments are done and the engine has been bedded in.
Barney i can only be gay if i run a k03s, k04 is for manly men not the shirt lifting batty boys on k03s
Cheers for the link to the tensioner kit phill as i was too lazy to peruse IE's site