PD170 Stuttering Problem Solved

Leon MK4

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AndrewJB

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Mine ran perfect then i fitted a full EGR delete

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AndrewJB

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About 70 and then you either get the light mapped out or drive around with light on

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AndrewJB

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Update-

After fitting the Darkside Development's EGR Delete the Stuttering i used to experience had completely gone, I have just completed a drive from Milton Keynes to Knockhill and back which is like 766+ miles and havent once had the stutter happen (Previously it would certainly happen atleast twice)

The stutter in 1st and 2nd gear when launching still happend and obviously wasnt connected to the EGR, my car went back to JBS the other day for an updated version of the WILD Map and since i havent managed to make it stutter in 1st or 2nd, the car now feels like it has less torque in 1st or 2nd but feels like it has more torque further up the Rev range


i think now i might be able to acheive better quarter mile times
 

stephenh

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Update-

After fitting the Darkside Development's EGR Delete the Stuttering i used to experience had completely gone, I have just completed a drive from Milton Keynes to Knockhill and back which is like 766+ miles and havent once had the stutter happen (Previously it would certainly happen atleast twice)

The stutter in 1st and 2nd gear when launching still happend and obviously wasnt connected to the EGR, my car went back to JBS the other day for an updated version of the WILD Map and since i havent managed to make it stutter in 1st or 2nd, the car now feels like it has less torque in 1st or 2nd but feels like it has more torque further up the Rev range


i think now i might be able to acheive better quarter mile times


Hi Andrew,

How much was the EGR delete and how much did JBS charge for new remap. Mines driving me mad everytime I pull off the lights jsut wondering if this will solve it.

Cheers,
 

kilner

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Hi Andrew,

How much was the EGR delete and how much did JBS charge for new remap. Mines driving me mad everytime I pull off the lights jsut wondering if this will solve it.

Cheers,

just like to add my car wasent stutering bad i fited a egr delete and removed the egr cooler and the stuter is ther worse than ever

either way rather live with the stuter than the gunk in the engine

mine only happens if i shift fast or goin up hill in 2nd floor it then change to 3rd fast

p.s i still wouldent go neer jbs
 

stephenh

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kilner, that doesnt sound like the normal PD stutter, mine only ever did it in first in traffic really

Mines around 1500rpm in first then sometimes around 2000-2200 in 2nd and sometimes in 3rd. It drives me mad. btw i agree with the jbs comment, I had faith in them at first but i noticed since my last vist they dont seem interested in you once they have done the work and have your money.
 

AndrewJB

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just like to add my car wasent stutering bad i fited a egr delete and removed the egr cooler and the stuter is ther worse than ever

either way rather live with the stuter than the gunk in the engine

mine only happens if i shift fast or goin up hill in 2nd floor it then change to 3rd fast

p.s i still wouldent go neer jbs


i think your problem is removing the Cooler, alot of people are running EGR Delete without any problems at all so that would suggest the cooler removal is the problem

i thought your map was "Stutter Free" or atleast thats how they advertise it :cartman:
 

RedLeon56

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I know this has been running for some time, but just to be clear - I suffer stuttering occassionally when car is running at 3rd/4th gear, around about 2000rpm. It's a 56 plate FR170TDI. It has been for a regen at the dealers as I had the dashboard disco at one point, and thought this might clear it (as the garage informed it me), but unfortunately not. Have had mechanic out for test drive, but only happened briefly, once, and left it with them, but they couldn't replicate it.
Would the gasket solve it? Or would it bring on lights? Would it be harmless to try it seeing as it's only a couple of quid?
 

AndrewJB

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I know this has been running for some time, but just to be clear - I suffer stuttering occassionally when car is running at 3rd/4th gear, around about 2000rpm. It's a 56 plate FR170TDI. It has been for a regen at the dealers as I had the dashboard disco at one point, and thought this might clear it (as the garage informed it me), but unfortunately not. Have had mechanic out for test drive, but only happened briefly, once, and left it with them, but they couldn't replicate it.
Would the gasket solve it? Or would it bring on lights? Would it be harmless to try it seeing as it's only a couple of quid?

it wont bring lights on, it will however log a fault in the ecu "insufficient flow" was the error, for £2 try it! if it doesnt help either leave it in or remove it
 

kilner

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i think your problem is removing the Cooler, alot of people are running EGR Delete without any problems at all so that would suggest the cooler removal is the problem

i thought your map was "Stutter Free" or atleast thats how they advertise it :cartman:

kinda like your 235bhp that jbs claim :lol:


the cooler dosent hav anything to do with the stuter and if u do a proper egr delete you should remove the cooler as it isent doin anything anymore
 

stephenh

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your a 5hark aint ya kilner, what have they said about your new stutter?

Me? No i had mine done at JBS. I once took it to 5hark after to see if he had any ideas and all he did was took a copy of my map and charged me £25 for the privledge (incidently a few weeks later they advertise de-dpf) :confused:
 

GrahamFR

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Me? No i had mine done at JBS. I once took it to 5hark after to see if he had any ideas and all he did was took a copy of my map and charged me £25 for the privledge (incidently a few weeks later they advertise de-dpf) :confused:

no not you mate, your name is Stephen, not Kilner, and any ideas about what? the stuttering? that must've been some time ago, as Andrew has :cartman: 'd about, they now say that they can cure it with a stage 1 remap.
 

stephenh

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no not you mate, your name is Stephen, not Kilner, and any ideas about what? the stuttering? that must've been some time ago, as Andrew has :cartman: 'd about, they now say that they can cure it with a stage 1 remap.

Yeah, the stuttering, pulling away and in 2nd and sometimes 3rd. The egr modd cured it for when i was on the motorway in 5th and 6th, just now around town its not too clever. 5hark said to me ill take a copy of the map, then when he had some ideas he would make some changes to try and improve it, i never heard back, this way about 18 months ago
 
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