Remember its not just the belt that can got.
If the pensioners or a pulley goes it will have the same effect as the belt snapping
If the pensioners or a pulley goes it will have the same effect as the belt snapping
DOLBY's LCR...AKS Tuning Forged 14/07/2013.
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Yeah, Dolby, think of those poor old pensioners, give em a break!!EDIT - sorry just realised I haven't posted in your thread before! Very nice motor, very clean and good too see these cars being kept in such good condition.
Cheers mate, just tax for her now and thats it for 6 months or so
. Yeh i will be shooting over with Stu hopefully, no RR though just attendance. May see ya there.As i mentioned earlier i wanted to go to Jabba also as its a lovely little blast up there. I would of taken it easy on the way up though (**laughs to myself- if i wasnt travelling with my mate Stu (hudson82) who has a LCR too, and always (always) drives like he stole it
)They had it all day, which was a bit of a pain as i dropped it off Monday night. I also asked them if they can adjust my KWV3s to be more soft, but they didnt have enough time or something. I do trust TotalVAG, just was a little suprised at the total price thats all.
Thanks for the info Willie. I never knew the (T)ensioners and pulley have the same effect
Cheers mate, i like to think my car is Standard +. Its how i intended it to be. Not bigging myself (or my car) up, well i am lol, but it still looks new (inside and out) and she still get admiring glances even now. This is why it wll be so hard for me to sell if i have to. As Clarkson said, sometimes you build up weird relationship with your car, which is hard to shake off, if you put a lot of blood sweat and tears into it....but who knows eh?
MECHANICAL/DIAGNOSTIC CHECK UP
Took the car up to Revo HQ in Daventry yesterday, for the free mechanical & diagnostic check. This little run will be the first time in a few months my car will have a 'good run-out' up the motorway so to speak. At recent RR events my car has regulary got low torque figures, but it never seems it whilst shifting some on the motorways....
Anyway the car, got the thumbs up in everyway including how immaculately clean it is- I never tire of this, as i put huge time and effort into keeping my car looking like new...according to the guys at Revo its the cleanest LCR they have seen in years.
They also noted if i had CC. Which my answer was yes, unfortunately my car now seems to be requesting 1.8 bar on a regular basis, so im unsure if this is cause for concern or not?
KWV3 SUSPENSION REWORKED.
Ok, whilst i was there i had to do something about the ride in my car. It was bordering on undrivable (seriously). I had no idea what the current set-up was, except the rear rebound was on 5 clicks, which is hard.
At the same time i wanted the rear lowered further- maybe 5mm. Just so it sat almost on top of the wheel. It had always bugged me that the rear looked higher than the front (which it wasnt it just looked that way)
Well.....they had a look at the suspension and said it was all positioned completely wrong, and said they understood why there was virtually no play in the damping. Tbh i had noticed for months that the handling seemed to be getting worse, and i have no idea how or why this has happened.
He had dropped the rear a bit more, but its unnoticeable. At the same time softened the front which is slightly better, but will be going back next Tuesday for the whole Coilovers to be taken off and refitted properly, with the rear sitting exactly how i want it. I will ask him for the settings, do a road test and post them up here for other KWV3 owners to take guidance from
Took the car up to Revo HQ in Daventry yesterday, for the free mechanical & diagnostic check. This little run will be the first time in a few months my car will have a 'good run-out' up the motorway so to speak. At recent RR events my car has regulary got low torque figures, but it never seems it whilst shifting some on the motorways....
Anyway the car, got the thumbs up in everyway including how immaculately clean it is- I never tire of this, as i put huge time and effort into keeping my car looking like new...according to the guys at Revo its the cleanest LCR they have seen in years.
They also noted if i had CC. Which my answer was yes, unfortunately my car now seems to be requesting 1.8 bar on a regular basis, so im unsure if this is cause for concern or not?
KWV3 SUSPENSION REWORKED.
Ok, whilst i was there i had to do something about the ride in my car. It was bordering on undrivable (seriously). I had no idea what the current set-up was, except the rear rebound was on 5 clicks, which is hard.
At the same time i wanted the rear lowered further- maybe 5mm. Just so it sat almost on top of the wheel. It had always bugged me that the rear looked higher than the front (which it wasnt it just looked that way)
Well.....they had a look at the suspension and said it was all positioned completely wrong, and said they understood why there was virtually no play in the damping. Tbh i had noticed for months that the handling seemed to be getting worse, and i have no idea how or why this has happened.
He had dropped the rear a bit more, but its unnoticeable. At the same time softened the front which is slightly better, but will be going back next Tuesday for the whole Coilovers to be taken off and refitted properly, with the rear sitting exactly how i want it. I will ask him for the settings, do a road test and post them up here for other KWV3 owners to take guidance from
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There's no need for these coilovers to be fully removed.
The only adjustment you cannot get to with these fitted is the rear upper one.
The only adjustment you cannot get to with these fitted is the rear upper one.
Cheers Willie, yeh i dunno really, they think it will take an hour tops to do. They just told me it was set-up to give 'no play whatsoever' with the dips and cambers of a road...and to be fair they may of had a point. The car was embarrassingly hard and nothing was adjusted except the rear rebound.
Unless the 'wrong' positioning is why they're coming off?
Who fitted them - and what's positioned wrong?
Hi Mork,
AmD fitted them ages ago, it was free fitting.
The guy just said that he couldnt understand why the car was sitting as low as it was with the 'bump stops' sitting so high. He said the suspension looked opposite to what it should be???????
He then read through the KW manual and told me that the Bump stops can be anywhere.
***bump stops may not be an actual term...he did give me the correct term but i cant remember....just where the cars height comes to rest***
AmD fitted them ages ago, it was free fitting.
The guy just said that he couldnt understand why the car was sitting as low as it was with the 'bump stops' sitting so high. He said the suspension looked opposite to what it should be???????
He then read through the KW manual and told me that the Bump stops can be anywhere.
***bump stops may not be an actual term...he did give me the correct term but i cant remember....just where the cars height comes to rest***
Copied this from my review of the KW V3 thread.
SUSPENSION ADJUSTMENT/ FAST ROAD ALLIGNMENT.
Took the car to Revo today to completely re-do my KWV3s, as they were getting on the side of being 'oh my god a small hole in the road...CRAACK!) I think it is safe to say the ride quality has been bad for quite some time but i never had the time or patience to go and get them sorted properly, as it seems most roadsport places avoid them as they are tricky to set up correctly.
Anyways, the plan for the day was for Revo to completely strip the struts and springs and re-fit them again. After 15 minutes, Ben comes out and tells me that the fitting of the coilovers are in a "terrible state" and imo i knew it deep down. Dont want to cause grief on a public forum but when i bought the coilovers they came with free fitting...hence the dodgy fitting. Anyone who knows me on this forum, knows where i got them from, and if i am honest it shocks and angers me.
Ben and the suspension guy trusted to do the work for me both explained about the front bump stops being in a weird position causing the cars suspension travel to be nearly non existant. They ddnt go into too much detail, but apparantly they never see anything like that before.
I had an image of how i wanted the car to look and ride....i wanted the rear lower than the front, and the car to be sporty but as tolerable as possible. After 45 minutes the car was ready for a road test, and instantly i fell back in love with her (not that i fell out of love lol) but the car now looked even more better. Previous height settings were around 20mm all round. Now they were 25mm front and 30mm rear and boy does it look aggressive.
The car can now determine its stiffness/hardness by the adjustable top mounts as this is what the suspension guru told me. 2 clicks left is softer and 2 clicks right harder. This i may have fun with, as if i ever need to go on a track day i can do it all by myself...and im a suspension noob.
First things first i get in the car, and it feels so much smoother, Ben had explained to me that KW are one of the best, if not, THE best manufacturer for these cars as they cut out all the choppiness of the standard shocks. Im not saying the car glides over surfaces now because that would be fairytale stuff but yeah, it it ten times more comfy than standard and twice as better than the original settings.
The rear bound is now 1.5 clicks clockwise from closed and rebound is 2 clicks CW which is about hald stiff. The front bound is now 1.5 clicks CW from closed and rebound the same. Adjustments can be made from the top mounts in future.
At high speed i have noticed you still get a kind of bouncy ride, but im willing to live with this for the time being. I must add that i was very happy with the settings at this point, until i went to get my car alligned. While watching the guy undoing and doing something up underneath the car (do they check the suspension this thorough with allignments?) I had a strange sinking feeling incase he may of been doing something...maybe im paranoid or something but after the allignment the car doesnt feel as smooth any more....i may have to give the suspension some adjustments tomorrow.
Regarding the allignment results it seems i have 2.5mm on half of the front tyres left. So a couple of Continental sportContact3s will be on order. Apparantly the toe was so out it was laughable. The car is now set up for the "best angles possible for a road going car without being ridiculous".
A couple of pics from the allignment results
For those that cannot see, recommended for fast road use are....
* Left front CAMBER -1 degree08
* Left front CASTOR 7 degree47 (cant adjust)
* Left front TOE -0 degree01
* Left rear CAMBER -1 degree33
* Left rear TOE 0 degree17
* Right front CAMBER -1 degree12
* Right front CASTOR 8 degree01
* Right front TOE 0 degree00
* Right rear CAMBER -1 degree24
* Right rear TOE 0 degree19
* Front total TOE -1 degree01
* Rear total TOE 0 degree36
* Steer ahead -0 degree01
* Thrust angle -01 degree01
SUSPENSION ADJUSTMENT/ FAST ROAD ALLIGNMENT.
Took the car to Revo today to completely re-do my KWV3s, as they were getting on the side of being 'oh my god a small hole in the road...CRAACK!) I think it is safe to say the ride quality has been bad for quite some time but i never had the time or patience to go and get them sorted properly, as it seems most roadsport places avoid them as they are tricky to set up correctly.
Anyways, the plan for the day was for Revo to completely strip the struts and springs and re-fit them again. After 15 minutes, Ben comes out and tells me that the fitting of the coilovers are in a "terrible state" and imo i knew it deep down. Dont want to cause grief on a public forum but when i bought the coilovers they came with free fitting...hence the dodgy fitting. Anyone who knows me on this forum, knows where i got them from, and if i am honest it shocks and angers me.
Ben and the suspension guy trusted to do the work for me both explained about the front bump stops being in a weird position causing the cars suspension travel to be nearly non existant. They ddnt go into too much detail, but apparantly they never see anything like that before.
I had an image of how i wanted the car to look and ride....i wanted the rear lower than the front, and the car to be sporty but as tolerable as possible. After 45 minutes the car was ready for a road test, and instantly i fell back in love with her (not that i fell out of love lol) but the car now looked even more better. Previous height settings were around 20mm all round. Now they were 25mm front and 30mm rear and boy does it look aggressive.
The car can now determine its stiffness/hardness by the adjustable top mounts as this is what the suspension guru told me. 2 clicks left is softer and 2 clicks right harder. This i may have fun with, as if i ever need to go on a track day i can do it all by myself...and im a suspension noob.
First things first i get in the car, and it feels so much smoother, Ben had explained to me that KW are one of the best, if not, THE best manufacturer for these cars as they cut out all the choppiness of the standard shocks. Im not saying the car glides over surfaces now because that would be fairytale stuff but yeah, it it ten times more comfy than standard and twice as better than the original settings.
The rear bound is now 1.5 clicks clockwise from closed and rebound is 2 clicks CW which is about hald stiff. The front bound is now 1.5 clicks CW from closed and rebound the same. Adjustments can be made from the top mounts in future.
At high speed i have noticed you still get a kind of bouncy ride, but im willing to live with this for the time being. I must add that i was very happy with the settings at this point, until i went to get my car alligned. While watching the guy undoing and doing something up underneath the car (do they check the suspension this thorough with allignments?) I had a strange sinking feeling incase he may of been doing something...maybe im paranoid or something but after the allignment the car doesnt feel as smooth any more....i may have to give the suspension some adjustments tomorrow.
Regarding the allignment results it seems i have 2.5mm on half of the front tyres left. So a couple of Continental sportContact3s will be on order. Apparantly the toe was so out it was laughable. The car is now set up for the "best angles possible for a road going car without being ridiculous".
A couple of pics from the allignment results
For those that cannot see, recommended for fast road use are....
* Left front CAMBER -1 degree08
* Left front CASTOR 7 degree47 (cant adjust)
* Left front TOE -0 degree01
* Left rear CAMBER -1 degree33
* Left rear TOE 0 degree17
* Right front CAMBER -1 degree12
* Right front CASTOR 8 degree01
* Right front TOE 0 degree00
* Right rear CAMBER -1 degree24
* Right rear TOE 0 degree19
* Front total TOE -1 degree01
* Rear total TOE 0 degree36
* Steer ahead -0 degree01
* Thrust angle -01 degree01
You scene QueenNEW STICKER
New updated pictures will be taken when the car is clean...i never post dirty car pics lol.
Some interesting feedback regarding the previous suspension set-up, a little worrying i must say. Any way I’m pleased to hear it’s been sorted now and it’s much improved. Regarding the alignment adjustments, my understanding is they need to adjust the track rods on the front... other than that I don’t know what else is involved.
If I was you I’d leave it as it is for now, drive it on a selection of different roads until you've really got used to how it behaves... the good and the bad bits. Then if you're still sure it needs tuning then change it ever so slightly and repeat the cycle.
If I was you I’d leave it as it is for now, drive it on a selection of different roads until you've really got used to how it behaves... the good and the bad bits. Then if you're still sure it needs tuning then change it ever so slightly and repeat the cycle.
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Revo Ben
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Hi chaps!
Glad you car feels a bit better.
Just wanted to clear up a point though. The main issue wasn't that AMD had fitted the kit "wrong", in fact after checking with KW what they had done was spot on in terms of installation but it was that the pre-load spring when at the top was catching on the strut ram and so restricting it's movement. This is what gave the hard ride but according to KW this is where it should be.
I'd like to say we changed the suspension settings etc and hopefully you're happy with the car but wouldn't want to make people thing AMD were fitting suspension wrong or not taking care in what they do!
I know Shaun would have sorted this as he care's about giving good customer satisfaction but it's a long way back down for one!
Hope the car's feeling good and if we need to adjust re bound to curb that bounce at higher speed let me know!
Glad you car feels a bit better.
Just wanted to clear up a point though. The main issue wasn't that AMD had fitted the kit "wrong", in fact after checking with KW what they had done was spot on in terms of installation but it was that the pre-load spring when at the top was catching on the strut ram and so restricting it's movement. This is what gave the hard ride but according to KW this is where it should be.
I'd like to say we changed the suspension settings etc and hopefully you're happy with the car but wouldn't want to make people thing AMD were fitting suspension wrong or not taking care in what they do!
I know Shaun would have sorted this as he care's about giving good customer satisfaction but it's a long way back down for one!
Hope the car's feeling good and if we need to adjust re bound to curb that bounce at higher speed let me know!
Revo Ben
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That's good to hear. Quite often you find that even though KW coil overs improve the handling they also make the normal ride much nicer than the stock springs and dampers, they control the body movement much better than the perhaps too hard stock items.
I have speed bumps all through my estate and tbh it seems to run fine. If i am honest i will be papping myself if i see those horrible 'flat' bumps. You know, goes up at an angle then flat then down and angle...i think that will hurt my car. Other than that i took it down some country lanes and it still handles brilliant...oh and the fact it looks phat is a bonus.
wouldn't want to make people thing AMD were fitting suspension wrong or not taking care in what they do!
I know Shaun would have sorted this as he care's about giving good customer satisfaction but it's a long way back down for one!
Hope the car's feeling good and if we need to adjust re bound to curb that bounce at higher speed let me know!
Yeh apologies Ben, didnt want it coming out the way it did. Amd & Shaun are cool. It was/is in my head that a free fitting job would be a quick job. My bad.
I think for the time being the high speed bounce can stay as it isnt hugely annoying.
Just also wanna say i was very impressed with the level of service you guys provide. I think i will bring all my car mods and woes to you guys now.
Revo Ben
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Hey no problem at all, just didn't want people to get wrong idea is all- no harm done!!
Very glad that you were happy with the service here! We do try! Sorry I had to pop out when you were in yesterday.
Keep me posted on the bouncy front! As long as she's handling OK all's well!
ANd it really is a very clean Car!
Very glad that you were happy with the service here! We do try! Sorry I had to pop out when you were in yesterday.
Keep me posted on the bouncy front! As long as she's handling OK all's well!
ANd it really is a very clean Car!
Cleaned the car 2 days ago, and again today....didnt need it but i was bored. Anyway, hope you like.
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