Mk2 Ibiza Measuring Blocks.

DPJ · Mar 4, 2009

I think I know my way round Measuring Blocks for the Mk3 / Mk4 Ibiza and the Leons.

However, I haven't had time to get my head round the very basic info that you can get on the Mk2 8v. I don't even know if the 16v is different. Searches haven't really turned up very much. If anyone can help fill the gaps and point to anything useful, I'll try and put together a more useful guide.

Here's the available blocks from mine, shown with a quick throttle blip in each case.

Code:

Wednesday	4	March	2009	16:25:49							
6K0 906 025 D		SIMOS 4S           3505									
											
	Group A:	'000									
											
	TIME										
Marker	STAMP										
	0.77	75	136	157	41	57	17	11	9	2	28
	2.88	75	136	157	24	24	17	42	18	2	69
	3.82	75	136	157	23	31	17	43	19	2	80
	4.77	75	136	157	50	25	17	42	39	5	64
	5.71	75	135	157	24	61	17	11	16	2	67
	6.65	75	136	157	41	28	17	10	34	4	71
	7.6	75	135	157	22	61	17	43	15	1	71
	8.54	75	133	157	43	24	17	42	46	4	84

Code:

Group B:	'001			
	RPM	Temperature	Voltage	Bin. Bits
TIME				
	STAMP	 /min	°C	 V
2.32	2080	117	1.17	10110
3.26	2304	117	1.02	10110
4.21	1920	117	1.21	10110
5.15	2560	117	1.09	10
6.09	1760	117	1.21	10110
7.04	2400	117	1.17	10110
7.98	2176	117	1.11	10110
8.94	3328	117	0.8	10110

Code:

Group B:	'002			
	RPM	Inj. On Time	Voltage	Temperature
TIME				
	STAMP	 /min	 ms	 V
0.02	896	2.04	13.91	34
0.96	864	2.04	14.02	34
1.9	2080	4.08	14.02	34
2.85	2528	3.06	13.71	34
3.79	2912	2.04	14.02	34
4.74	3008	3.06	14.02	34
5.68	3168	2.04	13.91	34
6.64	3456	2.04	14.02	34
7.6	3552	1.02	13.91	34
8.54	2272	4.08	14.02	34
9.49	1088	3.06	13.71	34
10.43	960	2.04	13.81	34
11.38	896	2.04	13.81	34

Code:

Group B:	'003			
	RPM	Load	T.B. Angle	Load
TIME				
	STAMP	 /min	%	°
0.38	896	16.4	4.5	16.8
1.33	896	16.4	4.5	16.4
2.27	1600	14.5	9	27.3
3.21	1920	12.9	10.5	33.6
4.16	2976	11.3	13	43
5.1	3456	13.7	23.5	54.3
6.05	2784	7.8	9.5	33.6
6.99	1248	13.3	6	20.7
7.93	864	18.8	6	16.8
8.88	864	15.6	4.5	16
9.82	864	16.8	5	16.4
10.77	896	16	4.5	16.4

Code:

Group B:	'004			
	RPM	Load	Speed	Bin. Bits
TIME				
	STAMP	 /min	%	 km/h
0.38	896	16	0	1000000
1.33	864	16	0	1000000
2.27	2048	12.1	0	10000000
3.22	2592	9.4	0	10000000
4.14	2848	8.2	0	10000000
5.09	2976	9	0	10000000
6.03	2880	8.6	0	100000
6.98	1760	10.5	0	10000000
7.92	1696	11.3	0	10000000
8.87	1056	15.2	0	1000000

Code:

Group B:	'005			
	RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Bin. Bits
TIME				
	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms
0.38	896	0	0	1011
1.33	928	10.5	0	101011
2.27	2400	11.3	0.51	101011
3.21	3200	11.3	0.51	101011
4.16	3296	11.3	0.51	1011
5.1	3040	0	0	1011
6.05	2688	11.3	0	101011
6.99	1920	11.3	0.51	100010
7.95	1664	10.5	0	1011

Code:

Group B:	'006			
	Inj. On Time	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor
TIME				
	STAMP	 ms		
0.04	0.6	1.1	1.01	1
0.94	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
1.89	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
2.83	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
3.78	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
4.72	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
5.66	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
6.61	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
7.55	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
8.5	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
9.44	0.57	1.1	1.01	1
10.37	0.57	1.1	1.01	1

Some things are obvious, some aren't...........

Edit: See post #14

Fl@pper · Mar 4, 2009

as per previous chinwag

an auto scan 6k lists as possible modules which im guessing means

01 engine
02 auto trans
03 abs
08 auto hvac
15 airbags
17 instruments
25 immobiliser
35 cent locking
56 radio

when i ran it earlier i got this

Chassis Type: 6K - Seat Ibiza
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,25,35,56

Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 037 906 024 BE
Component: DIGIFANT 3.2 2121
No fault code found.

Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 3A0 907 379 A
Component: ABS/EDS ITTAE 20 GI V00
Coding: 06406
Shop #: WSC 11111
No fault code found.

Address 15 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 6N0 909 603 AM
Component: AIRBAG VW2 V00
Coding: 16717
Shop #: WSC 06402
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal to Low - Intermittent cleared now

Address 25 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1H0 953 257 B
Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0V4080148 V00
Coding: 09600
Shop #: WSC 64181
No fault code found.

End -------------------------------------------------------

Fl@pper · Mar 4, 2009

log attempt

Code:

 Wednesday	4	March	2009	19:21:25											
037 906 024 BE 		DIGIFANT 3.2        2121    													
															
	Group A:	'001				Group B:	'050				Group C:	'101			
		RPM	Temperature	Voltage	Bin. Bits		RPM	Inj. On Time	Voltage	Temperature		RPM	Load	(no units)	Bin. Bits
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP		°C	 V		STAMP		 ms	 V	°C	STAMP		%		
	3.31	837	60	0.63	1	7.09	837	3.57	13.78	35	10.03	864	0	1	10111000
	13.79	810	64	0.46	0	17.55	864	3.57	13.88	35	20.52	837	0	1	10111000
	24.28	864	64	0.08	0	28.07	864	3.57	13.88	35	31.03	864	0	1	10111000
	34.79	864	68	0.65	0	38.52	837	3.57	13.78	35	41.45	864	0	1	10111000
	45.21	864	68	0.65	0	48.98	837	3.57	13.78	35	51.96	837	0	1	10111000
	55.72	837	68	0.09	0	59.49	864	3.57	13.88	35	62.42	864	0	1	10111000
	66.16	810	72	0.34	0	69.91	837	3.06	13.78	35	72.85	837	0	1	10111000
	76.63	864	72	0.05	0	80.4	864	3.06	13.88	35	83.35	810	0	1	10111000
	87.09	864	72	0.67	0	90.85	864	3.06	13.78	35	93.81	837	0	1	10111000
	97.57	864	75	0.63	0	101.31	837	3.06	13.69	35	104.25	864	7	1	10111000
	108.05	864	75	0.65	0	111.8	864	3.06	13.78	35	114.76	837	8.2	1	10111000
	118.56	837	75	0.02	0	122.35	837	3.06	13.69	35	125.27	837	9.4	1	10111000
	128.99	837	75	0.57	0	132.74	864	3.06	13.69	35	135.67	864	10.9	1	10111000
	139.45	864	79	0.57	0	143.21	864	3.06	13.88	35	146.17	837	12.1	1	10111000
	149.94	864	79	0.02	0	153.73	864	3.06	13.69	35	156.66	864	13.3	1	10111000
	170.83	864	79	0.35	0	174.63	837	3.06	13.69	35	167.07	837	14.5	0	10111000
	181.33	864	79	0.61	0	185.07	864	3.06	13.69	35	177.59	864	16	1	10111000
	191.73	837	83	0.59	0	195.49	837	3.06	13.78	35	187.98	864	17.2	1	10111000
	202.2	864	83	0.01	0	206	837	3.06	13.69	35	198.43	837	18.4	1	10111000
	212.72	864	83	0	0	216.47	837	3.06	13.78	35	208.97	837	19.5	1	10111000
	223.18	837	83	0.46	0	226.94	837	3.06	13.78	35	219.42	837	21.1	0	10111000
	233.69	837	83	0.2	0	237.43	864	3.06	13.78	36	229.9	837	22.3	1	10111000
	244.17	864	87	0.04	0	247.96	837	3.06	13.69	36	240.37	837	23.4	1	10111000
	254.64	864	87	0.62	0	258.37	837	3.06	13.78	36	250.9	864	24.6	1	10111000
	265.04	864	87	0	0	268.8	837	3.06	13.78	36	261.3	864	25.8	1	10111000
	275.52	864	87	0.02	0	279.28	864	3.06	13.78	36	271.76	864	25.8	1	10111000
	285.95	837	87	0.66	0	289.71	864	3.06	13.78	36	282.21	864	25.8	1	10111000
	296.36	864	87	0.59	0	300.12	837	3.06	13.78	36	292.62	837	25.4	0	10111000
	306.81	864	87	0	0	310.59	864	3.06	13.78	36	303.05	864	25.4	0	10111000
	317.27	864	87	0.01	0	321.05	864	3.06	13.78	36	313.53	864	25.4	0	10111000
	327.78	864	90	0.34	0	331.54	864	3.06	13.78	36	324.01	864	25.4	1	10111000
	338.23	864	90	0.02	0	341.99	864	3.06	13.78	36	334.47	837	25.8	0	10111000
	348.71	837	90	0.68	0	352.48	864	3.06	13.78	36	344.92	864	25.4	0	10111000
Wednesday	4	March	2009	19:27:59											
037 906 024 BE 		DIGIFANT 3.2        2121    													
															
	Group A:	'001				Group B:	'050				Group C:	'101			
		RPM	Temperature	Voltage	Bin. Bits		RPM	Inj. On Time	Voltage	Temperature		RPM	Load	(no units)	Bin. Bits
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP		°C	 V		STAMP		 ms	 V	°C	STAMP		%		
	25.3	378	87	0.34	0	3.31	378	22.44	12.28	36	21.54	378	0	0	0
	35.73	378	87	0.39	0	29.04	378	22.44	12.19	36	31.97	378	0	0	0
	46.22	378	87	0.41	0	39.49	378	22.44	12.19	36	42.44	378	0	0	0




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As mine's been juddering a little when warm (inj temp sensor i think) i plugged in to try my 'first' log that in terms i understand a warm up with using 01-engine (ecu) measuring blocks of groups 001 - 050 - 101

not sure if any are relevant in reality as i was just playing and guessed after spotting this link

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/m_blocks/

i let it warm back up on tickover then left for 60 sec more no engine running no throttle - still lists as 378rpm which is what i thought of as wierd

DPJ · Mar 4, 2009

Yep - Digifant ecu on the 16v then
Simos 4 on the 8v.

I think you may have more available blocks in the engine module.

Block 001 above looks similar.

I'd say its
RPM
Coolant Temp
A sensor voltage
????????????

The sensor voltage decreases as revs increase. MAF?

I don't like the look of the fluctuations on yours at idle, Fl@pper....

Fl@pper · Mar 4, 2009

DPJ said:
The sensor voltage decreases as revs increase. MAF?

I don't like the look of the fluctuations on yours at idle, Fl@pper....

you wanna sit in it then

judders away at present so much you can see the bonnet shaking when it's up

Lambda control value Bank 1 was what it listed in the groups link

will be sticking in temp sensors anyway as i havent changed em yet (surprisingly) as it changes from 'norm' as soon as oil temp gauge reads on mfa

DPJ · Mar 4, 2009

So Blocks could be

Code:

Block	1	2	3	4
001	RPM	Coolant Temp/ 	Lambda Control value bank 1/	Lambda Control value bank 1
002	RPM	Load %/	Mean injection time ms/	Air Mass g/s
003	RPM	Air Mass g/s/	Throttle valve angle %/	Ignition angle
004	RPM	Voltage	Coolant Temp	Intake air temp
005	RPM	Load %/	Speed kpm/	Operating Condition
006	RPM	Load %/	Intake air temp/	Altitude Correction %

Edit - no these don't match the 8v blocks........

Fl@pper · Mar 4, 2009

good excuse as any for a drive

gotta learn this stuff somehow after all

Brummy · Mar 18, 2009

Fl@pper said:
gotta learn this stuff somehow

Me too now :headhurt:

F2 Ed · Mar 31, 2010

Still not sure what a few of the blocks are measuring simos 8v ecu :blink:

I'll get a log saved later

DPJ · Mar 31, 2010

F2 Ed said:
Still not sure what a few of the blocks are measuring simos 8v ecu

I'll get a log saved later

Same as mine at post #1 though?

F2 Ed · Mar 31, 2010

oh yes, i guess it will be the same lol

DPJ · Mar 31, 2010

F2 Ed said:
oh yes, i guess it will be the same lol

I wouldn't assume anything on the mk2

F2 Ed · Apr 21, 2010

looks like you cant see air flow

On the mk4 golf i VAGom'd yesterday i could see the air intake in mg

DPJ · Oct 3, 2010

I used VCDS-Lite today on my Mk2 for the first time (in the past it's been Vag-Com).

I was suprised to see it brings up the correct label file - so you can now see what the engine blocks are actually measuring. :thumbup:

Search

Mk2 Ibiza Measuring Blocks.

DPJ

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Fl@pper

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F2 Ed

now has VAG com

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