RobDon's Leon -

[Murdered LCR]

That kits for the mk 2 leon I think ?

 

[Damoegan]

Yep, just re read it and it says its for the TFSI

 

[RobDon]

Seen it and it's for TFSi, so no use!

 

[PhilW]

JBS will be offering a garret setup like the IHI soon as well Rob, thats gotta be an option.

Plus Kinetic are in talks with AMD Essex about doing a RHD version of their kit which uses the k03 downpipe, which to me is the one i want.

 

[RobDon]

Sounds very interesting! You mean this sort of thing?

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/KINETIC_MOTORSPORT_MKIV_1_8T_TURBO_HARDWARE_KIT-927-0.html

 

[ibizacupra]

Having done the rods recently, I am now looking for more power because I know the engine can handle it now! The two options I'm considering is the JBS IHI turbo kit or a CR Turbos hybrid K04-022 and the JBS K04 manifold, Piper RS downpipe and CAT, etc., both offer around the 350bhp mark. I think both end up around the same price, around £2300 and I think after looking at all my existing turbo parts I could get around £1200 for my stuff.

We'll see what the new year brings!

hybrid k04 and 350bhp? you sure?
IHI has more chance (if pushed) but a K04?

 

[ibizacupra]

*watches with anticipation

we will shortly see what yours does (for no initial change other than rods)
I can compare logs from before

 

[RobDon]

So CR Turbos say yes. I questioned 350 too, Mark said:

Sure, when we hybrid the K04, (bigger T-wheel, thrust, K06 comp wheel), they will do 350. There's more room in the housings for bigger wheels, and the T-hsg is not as restrictive as the K03 one."
Cheers
Mark Arnold

C R Turbo Engineering

 

[alexj124]

Rob,

If the k04 can get you to 350 going by Bill's questioning this we will say 350 at a max rather than potential to get more. With your previous best at 317 so maybe you'll get a bit more if the engine wasn't the best at the time.

This means for over a grand you get an extra 30bhp then you're stuck? So would you then get bored again? Is it worth going for something a little bigger so you can reach the 400 if YOU wanted to at a later date.

or is it the final fling with the car where you would get bored and swap the car for the focus rs for example that you like? Or do you tend to keep it for a while

Knowing you you'll want to change this again at a later date (not that its bad your car is one of the finest on the forum) but will cost more again just wondering if you are to change again that you should think about future proofing it??

 

[PhilW]

Sounds very interesting! You mean this sort of thing?

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/KINETIC_MOTORSPORT_MKIV_1_8T_TURBO_HARDWARE_KIT-927-0.html

Yep.

This is it, well the prototype for it, im in talks with Clay now about it.

 

[RobDon]

Wow, very interesting, keep me updated on that one!

 

[RobDon]

Rob,

If the k04 can get you to 350 going by Bill's questioning this we will say 350 at a max rather than potential to get more. With your previous best at 317 so maybe you'll get a bit more if the engine wasn't the best at the time.

This means for over a grand you get an extra 30bhp then you're stuck? So would you then get bored again? Is it worth going for something a little bigger so you can reach the 400 if YOU wanted to at a later date.

or is it the final fling with the car where you would get bored and swap the car for the focus rs for example that you like? Or do you tend to keep it for a while

Knowing you you'll want to change this again at a later date (not that its bad your car is one of the finest on the forum) but will cost more again just wondering if you are to change again that you should think about future proofing it??

All very valid points, my main concern about taking the power further is traction ... or lack of it. Is 350 enough without losing too much traction, is going beyond 350 a waste of time if you can't put it down on the road?

 

[ibizacupra]

depends on how its served up..
I would say a 320bhp IHI which runs 280lbft torque is more tractable as it does'nt have a spike/kick but builds progressivly as the revs climbs, making for good traction.

I cant imagine a hybrid being as controlled in that respect.. which is lost traction

in my experience anyway

 

[RobDon]

True, I don't know much about the hybrid K04-022 and how it spools etc.. Being a roller bearing turbo the IHI must spool fast.

 

[ibizacupra]

vf34 spools nice - but is fragile when pushed

 

[RobDon]

JBS don't state what IHI turbo is in their 300-350 kit, just says this:

For the JBS stage 1 IHI turbo kits, custom built IHI turbos are used. The turbos are selected for best power output and compatibility with the other components of the turbo kit.

Turbo Technical Specification:

•High horsepower & torque with low lag
•Horsepower range from 300BHP to 400BHP
•Reliable under the most demanding conditions

 

[RobDon]

Got sent more pics of the new TIG-ART manifold. With the right adapter plate, this manifold can run a K03-style, IHI or GT28 turbo.

Not sure what to make of it, obviously 2 gaskets are needed. TIG-ART say they've fitted 8 of these manifolds so far with zero issues.

 

[Damoegan]

Looks like there is good access to get to the nuts.. Has the welds been back-purged?

Looks very much like the new JBS cast one too..

 

[PhilW]

That has to be the worst T25 manifold ive ever seen.

 

[wild willy]

I'll be pushing my k04 hybrid this year with a new exhaust manifold and wmi. These are the figs i feel a hybrid is good for.

K04 hybrid 320bhp
High flow manifold 15bhp
wmi 20bhp


355bhp max, but is controllable provided precations are taken. Left to spool unchecked with a less than perfect map will snap rods in no time.

If you want more power Rob, i'd be looking at the Garret route.