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RS4 has torsion based 4wd ie genuine quattro and not that haldex shite as fitted to TT's, a3's etc so no haldex controller available.
Might be able to get a sport diff in the RS4 similiar in vain as the new S4 though.
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RS4 has torsion based 4wd ie genuine quattro and not that haldex shite as fitted to TT's, a3's etc so no haldex controller available.
Might be able to get a sport diff in the RS4 similiar in vain as the new S4 though.
For around 32-35K you can have a year old M3 Saloon much better IMO than the TT-RS fab engine and they do shift had the pleasure of driving one. Although I am a little bored of BM's after several 1 and 3 Series hence the change back to Seat until the next gen 1er comes out 2011+ or the next gen Leon. Especially if the VAG twin turbo 200Bhp + derv comes to fruition and a Cupra D comes along..........
or some crap tyres will do the trick, you could always supercharge the thing
. I think thats the car ill progress to unless something elso comes up. tt-rs would be lovely but too expensive, same goes for the new m3 and their isnt much in it between the too unless lewis hamiltons driving them.You missing the point of the Barthurst there though. As they are giving them away, there is much less value to lose off them.
I still want one of these - old skool
. And tuned, it would rip a Cupra also. The one on this clip needs better suspension and brakes though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITwL8nEEWQ
I still want one of these - old skool
. And tuned, it would rip a Cupra also. The one on this clip needs better suspension and brakes though.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITwL8nEEWQ
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New M3 isnt fast enough for me mate, lovely cars but I want to go faster. MB and BMW are working on quad turbo diesels apparently.
If I went oldschool it would have to be UrQuattro for me
im not old enough to appriciate the cosworth lol, so although theirs not much tuning potential in the rs4 id be happy and is one of those cars im gonna have to own and the best chance of that will be after the cupra.
r34 skyline got enough potential for you, im personally not a fan but 1000hp is possible if your pockets are deep enough on the subject of old skool.
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I dunno if the point is being missed here or it's just
me
I would want the car I sell my leon to really have to engage me. For me it used to all be about headline BHP figures and pure out speed, but I have Learnt over the years it's not about that
it's about the feel, entertainment, noise and handling of the car which is what I look for now
some of those boxes are ticked by my current setup but handling wise it's not the most involving drive and I would now happily swap it's speed factor for having a more involving car!
For noise, handling and that real driving factor I would opt for something like an integra type R. Out of the box it's a fantastic car, can hold it's own on the track against much supposedly faster cars and in standard form is a great car. Sure it may lack that punch of power and torque, but I am swaying toward a car that handles and needs to be "driven"
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I would want the car I sell my leon to really have to engage me. For me it used to all be about headline BHP figures and pure out speed, but I have Learnt over the years it's not about that
it's about the feel, entertainment, noise and handling of the car which is what I look for now
some of those boxes are ticked by my current setup but handling wise it's not the most involving drive and I would now happily swap it's speed factor for having a more involving car!
For noise, handling and that real driving factor I would opt for something like an integra type R. Out of the box it's a fantastic car, can hold it's own on the track against much supposedly faster cars and in standard form is a great car. Sure it may lack that punch of power and torque, but I am swaying toward a car that handles and needs to be "driven"
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i would consider the integra type r a few steps down to a stage 2+ mk2 cupra tbh, theirs no way id swap mine for one of them just my opinion though.
The type r would still have the same probs in the wet and putting power down, well what little power it has lol and it would have to be just as fast as the cupra in a staright line but better performing in the wet and the twisties, which pretty much rules it out.
when you say noise, you actually like the screeming vtec crap?
The type r would still have the same probs in the wet and putting power down, well what little power it has lol and it would have to be just as fast as the cupra in a staright line but better performing in the wet and the twisties, which pretty much rules it out.
when you say noise, you actually like the screeming vtec crap?
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jamiebennett81
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The "crap" vtec commet always make me laugh. It is a fantastic piece of engineering, in terms of squiezing that amount of power from a NA engine and maintaining factory reliability....but if you still think that's crap, coming from a petrol head, I find that an odd comment
I have driven the civic type R and yes I find the vtec noise intoxicating! Especially in long tunnel runs
however if I wanted the combination of speed, handling and noise then it would be the new M3
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What lets the new M3 down is its weight.
TBH driving the cupra fast can be a little too effortless, love the rev happy engines of the frenchies, where you have the wring the neck out of the engine to get the most out of it, sitting high up in the revs, getting those gears right throught the corners etc, pure driving pleasure. But then most N/A's lack the straightline pace.
TBH driving the cupra fast can be a little too effortless, love the rev happy engines of the frenchies, where you have the wring the neck out of the engine to get the most out of it, sitting high up in the revs, getting those gears right throught the corners etc, pure driving pleasure. But then most N/A's lack the straightline pace.
OK, leftfield suggestion. How about...
Cadillac CTS-V
556bhp
0-60 3.9s
1/4 mile 12.6s
192mph
Cost about £45k + 'some' tax
Looks a tad garish from the outside, which compared to unbelieveably dull Audi's or BMWs is probably a good thing. Actually quite nice inside.
Before anyone mentions dodgy handling - the ring times speak for themselves.
Down side - 19mpg on a good day
- hey, if you want eceonomy, get a moped!!!
Cadillac CTS-V
556bhp
0-60 3.9s
1/4 mile 12.6s
192mph
Cost about £45k + 'some' tax
Looks a tad garish from the outside, which compared to unbelieveably dull Audi's or BMWs is probably a good thing. Actually quite nice inside.
Before anyone mentions dodgy handling - the ring times speak for themselves.
Down side - 19mpg on a good day
- hey, if you want eceonomy, get a moped!!!
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My old dear wouldnt get any sleep at night lol.
James G, im 20, not an old man. Id get that for my dad lol.
Your old man better have a good heart!! The CTS-V will outstrip a GSXR1100 and leave an M3 / RS4 in the dust so not for the feint hearted..!
Not forgetting you can easily mod it to the same output as the 'vette..
Still you could apply the same kind of arguements to the Audi (not a ****) or BMW (not a wan##r).
OK then, what about a classic? Lancia Delta S4. 1.8 turbo supercharged, 650-720bhp
0-100 in 6 seconds..... on gravel
Probably still the fastest point to point machine ever made.
New M3 isnt fast enough for me mate, lovely cars but I want to go faster. MB and BMW are working on quad turbo diesels apparently.
If I went oldschool it would have to be UrQuattro for me
I think what ever you had t would not be fast enough. If you got a faster car it would feel fast for a week or so and then you would want faster as you get use to the performace
If you've got the speed bug then an Ariel Atom is the most visceral 4 wheeler money can buy. May not have the top speed of a hyper car, but the ultra low weight and lack of bodywork give you the same kind of impression of speed you get on a bike.
Nowhere to put your shopping though...
Or you could just get a Suzuki Hayabusa and kill yourself at 190mph or so. At £10k it's the most performance per pound you'll ever get.
BTW a Delta S4 will easily outstrip a SWB Quattro Sport. Sounds a-mazing too, even better than the very tasty sounding Quattro straigh 5. Shame they were banned...
Nowhere to put your shopping though...
Or you could just get a Suzuki Hayabusa and kill yourself at 190mph or so. At £10k it's the most performance per pound you'll ever get.
BTW a Delta S4 will easily outstrip a SWB Quattro Sport. Sounds a-mazing too, even better than the very tasty sounding Quattro straigh 5. Shame they were banned...
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Which is what exactly?
If the answer to this is to beat anything and everything on the road, remember there is a member on here who was banned for racing an RS4 on a dual carraigeway. If you are buying the car to drive like a **** on the road and try to race and beat everything around, then you are going to end up banned, dead or worse, you will kill someone else when you are trying to prove your point.
If you are buying a car for the track, then there are a myriad of cars that you could buy which will absolutely murder your Cupra. Try the following as an example;
Stripped Peugeot 106/205 with an MI 16 engine, roll cage and twin 45's and over 200bhp
Ariel Atom Supercharged (mentioned above)
R32/R33 GTR Skyline with 600+bhp
Evo 5/6/7/8 with stroker conversion and big turbo, 500+bhp
Toyota Supra with single turbo conversion and tuned to over 600bhp on standard internals (and be "safe" at that level). If you want a bit more, try this, but look to improve cornering ability a bit by putting on 4 equal sized wheels lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_puEVK_Ifgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRuDVvM-KU
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I think what ever you had t would not be fast enough. If you got a faster car it would feel fast for a week or so and then you would want faster as you get use to the performace
True, when I first got the cupra and it was std I thought to myself that its more than quick enough and that I will never need anything quicker. That didnt last long and its the same story with the map
There was this one fella who tunes skylines who reckons the perfect car for me would be a BT supra. It would be stupid quick, and scary, and at the point where I scare myself, is the point when I have a car thats quick enough for me. Supras are old now though
If you've got the speed bug then an Ariel Atom is the most visceral 4 wheeler money can buy. May not have the top speed of a hyper car, but the ultra low weight and lack of bodywork give you the same kind of impression of speed you get on a bike.
Nowhere to put your shopping though...
Or you could just get a Suzuki Hayabusa and kill yourself at 190mph or so. At £10k it's the most performance per pound you'll ever get.
BTW a Delta S4 will easily outstrip a SWB Quattro Sport. Sounds a-mazing too, even better than the very tasty sounding Quattro straigh 5. Shame they were banned...
I should really get my bike license but im pretty mediocre on motorbikes, whilst im pretty handy with cars. No garage = no atom. Seen some of the youtube vids though, mental car.
You seem to know me pretty well. I need a all rounder.
Quick on the roads, quick down the pod, quick down the track and still look the part.
Saw a white k1 on my way home tonight and it looked the danglies. Made me fall in love with mine again. Chances are I will stick a diff on it and do some chassis mods whilst I save for something else.
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