Cupramillo's MK3 Ibiza Cupra Gone, EVO 8 MR FQ320 CARBON ON!!

[cupramillo]

Yeh cant wait. Mindue my results seem to be causing a stir in the INA section for some reason?!

CR will be picking the turbo up tomorrow and then i can get the wheels in motion

Hoping Bill want be too mega bust to fit me in for mapping. Going to ask a friend to try and fit the hybrid, injectors and maf, dont fancy paying a garage silly money to fit it. Will also be needing a bigger air filter.

Want to stay with Jetex as i love my current one, Bill recommends the Green Cotton ones.
Can anyone give any opinions on the Green Filters?

 

[INA]

Wow,
I most certainly am a fan!
I think we need to update that show off your Seat thread!

 

[westallc]

Yeh cant wait. Mindue my results seem to be causing a stir in the INA section for some reason?!

CR will be picking the turbo up tomorrow and then i can get the wheels in motion

Hoping Bill want be too mega bust to fit me in for mapping. Going to ask a friend to try and kit the hybrid, injectors and maf, dont fancy paying a garage silly money to fit it. Will also be needing a bigger air filter.

Want to stay with Jetex as i love my current one, Bill recommends the Green Cotton ones.
Can anyone give any opinions on the Green Filters?

causing a stir its because what you claim bhp increase is rubbish as the test you do will show no comparison buddy so throwing figures in the air with no proper test

p.s i have the manni as well and has shown a gain of 2 bhp over stock same map same car no other mods.. spools faster though

make sure you check your turbo see bills other thread about the turbo he is currently fitting it looks like it has been a proper night mare

good luck hope you enjoy

 

[ibizacupra]

Yeh cant wait. Mindue my results seem to be causing a stir in the INA section for some reason?!

CR will be picking the turbo up tomorrow and then i can get the wheels in motion

Hoping Bill want be too mega bust to fit me in for mapping. Going to ask a friend to try and kit the hybrid, injectors and maf, dont fancy paying a garage silly money to fit it. Will also be needing a bigger air filter.

Want to stay with Jetex as i love my current one, Bill recommends the Green Cotton ones.
Can anyone give any opinions on the Green Filters?

I have one 80mm JR filter in stock... I do both Green and JR filters these days
Check CR supply the turbo right

 

[cupramillo]

Still waiting for mine to be picked up Bill. How do i know which one? I thought they only supplied one version on the hybrid, or is a ko3 and a ko3s hybrid different to fit ? How much is the JR filter please?

 

[ibizacupra]

replied in my section to this..

 

[cupramillo]

Have a few more pics from Monday's fitting on my fuel pump and INA manifold and the RR session. Pics courtesy of AMD.

Old Mani coming off :

Old(top) and new(bottom) manifolds :

New manifold on

On the Rollers :

Enjoy

 

[cupramillo]

Also found out the settings it was being run at on Revo. It was being run on Boost 7 Timing 5

 

[tommy2008cupra]

hmm looks suspiciously like my ths mani lol anyway those are quite mild settings mate thought they would have been higher?

 

[Robbie C]

I'd lay money on the fact that the THS and INA manifolds are in fact from the same manufacturer

Looking good though, not much left to do now

 

[cupramillo]

Yeh i almost went for the THS manifold but they were sold out when i tried to get one. The settings are quite mild, i did ask for it that way though, i dont want to overly stress the turbo as the car is my daily runner and i dont want things going pop!

CRT picked up my turbo yesterday and should be getting to to their workshop for inspection today, fingers crossed.

Robbie I rang and spoke to some one at Turbo Dynamics, really nice bunch that know their stuff. The prices were abit too much for me. Im sure it is a turbo that will produce more than the CR unit, but i couldnt justify the price difference on a car that im not going to be keeping for a long time. Im sure i wont be dissopointed with the CR unit though. Not much left to do at all really, save up for badger5 mapping, bigger air filter, want to stay with Jetex over Green ideally and maybe some uprated engine mounts.

 

[jamiebennett81]

Robbie I rang and spoke to some one at Turbo Dynamics, really nice bunch that know their stuff. The prices were abit too much for me. Im sure it is a turbo that will produce more than the CR unit, but i couldnt justify the price difference on a car that im not going to be keeping for a long time. Im sure i wont be dissopointed with the CR unit though. Not much left to do at all really, save up for badger5 mapping, bigger air filter, want to stay with Jetex over Green ideally and maybe some uprated engine mounts.

really?

on what basis does the Turbo Dynamics hybrid produce more - same units, different costs from vendor

 

[cupramillo]

When Badger5 was mapping Robbie's he said it was a more lively turbo. Im sure they are more or less the same units using the same parts, maybe TD can just squeeze that bit more out of them than CR. I cant talk from first hand experiance though, just from what i have heard. I think Robbie is in more of a position to comment having been out in a CR hybrid'd car and his own TD hybrid. Saying that performance will vary from car to car depending on what mods are in place, condition of teh car etc etc

 

[ibizacupra]

really?

on what basis does the Turbo Dynamics hybrid produce more - same units, different costs from vendor

not the same units
hell CR dont seem to produce 2 units the same from what I see come here



Turbo Dynamics offer a range of hybrids to differing specs.. one of which is probably comparible with CR's version

 

[cupramillo]

Interesting, i didnt know TD offered different levels of ko3hybrids. I thought that you were limitied by the small size of the turbo to get anything more than 280-300bhp?

 

[jamiebennett81]

not the same units
hell CR dont seem to produce 2 units the same from what I see come here

very true Bill from what you told me during my conversion, I should have known better....

 

[cupramillo]

Shame on you! Hows yours running now Anton? Not seen you on here much these days

 

[jamiebennett81]

Shame on you! Hows yours running now Anton? Not seen you on here much these days

like $hit at the moment.....

 

[Robbie C]

Interesting discussion. I can only comment on my own experience of going out in a CR Hybrid Ibiza compared to Ian's and my own Turbo Dynamics hybrid/JBS04. If I refer back to the PM I sent you CupraMillo...

CR hybrid units use the CHRA from an RS6, the biggest wheels in the K04 range - but Mark acknowledged this is purely because he can buy the cartridges in at a very good price and customers generally demand the biggest wheels possible.

The JBS04 uses the next wheel size down, but these are modified (trimmed and lightened) for better spool up etc. Over the phone Mark agreed that, flow wise, the fact that the wheels are *slightly* smaller will make no real world difference as the turbo will only flow a finite amount of air anyway.

The deciding factor for me was when I went out in Benny's CR hybrid, and then out in Ian's JBS04 - the exact same turbo as mine. It was instantly noticeable how Ian's felt like a much more aggressive and stronger turbo - though I didn't know if this was just down to the map. Having now had mine fitted and mapped by Bill (Ian used CC3) - even Bill himself agreed that these turbos are more "lively" than the CR units he has dealt with to date at least.

That said, the air flow figures I'm seeing match Benny's like-for-like, running similar mods. Therefore they are clearly producing similar power - it's the WAY in which the power is delivered by the TD hybrid that I like - especially coming from Revo Stg 1 where it kicks all the power in at once.

Bottom line: I honestly think the Turbo Dynamics hybrid has a noticeable edge over the CRT in terms of aggression and spool up, though they both flow similar figures. All depends what you're looking for really, though I remember feeling slightly let down by the CRT hybrid.

This isn't intended to spark up an argument over "which hybrid is best" - purely my own perception based on my own experiences I was lucky enough to get my TD hybrid at a very good price so if it works out a lot more expensive that the CR turbo then it's not an easy decision.

*lights blue touch paper, puts on flame suit and runs

 

[Robbie C]

Without wanting to steal your thread, for those interested the TD spec is as follows (as quoted by TD):

K04 turbo with Hi flow K04 compressor wheel, cnc machined compressor housing , large
trim K04 turbine wheel, lightening of turbine wheel for faster ‘spool up’, cnc modified
turbine housing, ported wastegate, uprated turbine seals. Other ‘blueprinting’
modifications. 12 psi Uprated actuator. Rated to APPROX 280-300 BHP

That's for the MD445, but as Bill said - they do offer other K03 hybrid specs (MD349 IIRC) which produce less power, i.e. K04-001 territory. The MD445 is the highest spec'ed K03 in their range that I am aware of.