i went out with a 130 TDi owner who said he had his mapped to 160...in the end he had a boost leak and now he is definately running more than mine. i'd say GUS check all pipes and clips to ensure you are in fact running your remap properly
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tdi sport 130 remaped no difference? Remap reviews please
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antnee
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you saying a standard PD130 runs 17.9 sec 1/4ers? Standard is around high 15's-16secs, stage one should be from 14.7-mid 15s
Well thats also part of it too, hence why 1/4 miles are a good test of a car and its driver.
Same boat myself. M8 has a 130 Fr 5 door and is remapped to 180. Mines a 3 130 Fr 3 door and I can stick with him no problems. The only thing I can put it down to is the difference in doors. I know mine isnt remapped as ive driven his and theres ALOT more pull in the higher gears and is on boost far quicker than I am.
Right iv read many peoples thoughts on this and I think iv caused a bit of a flurry, however just to clarify some points
Standard 130 Ibiza tdi sport
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BHP 130 at 4000 revs
Torque 229 at 1900 revs
0-60 (through gears) 9.4 secs
30-70 (through gears) 8.9 secs
30-50 (3rd/4th/5th) 3.4/5.0/6.4
50-70 (3rd/4th/5th) 4.8/5.6/6.4
These figures are totally inaccurate , and this is why, many manufactures put down lower performance figures to try and give the car a lower insurance rating , I know most know that the 130bhp claimed is more like 145-150bhp with most cars. Classic example was the 306 gti-6 claim of 0-60 in 8.5 sec. It was but the car had 5 adults and boot full of luggage and it didn’t fool the insurance companies either , it was more nearer to the 7sec mark.
I didn’t get a chance to do 0-60 however 30-70 I manages 7.4 sec ? ( in 3rd average two runs) that’s well off the 8.9 sec claimed.
I recon 0-60 is more like 8.5 standard on I Ibiza 130 tdi
Still should a remapped 130 be better than this or is my car remapped?
Best ever race I managed to beat a leon 170bhp tdi ( by a car length)
If 7.4 sec is standard surly if I remap it will be stunning in mid range?
Standard 130 Ibiza tdi sport
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BHP 130 at 4000 revs
Torque 229 at 1900 revs
0-60 (through gears) 9.4 secs
30-70 (through gears) 8.9 secs
30-50 (3rd/4th/5th) 3.4/5.0/6.4
50-70 (3rd/4th/5th) 4.8/5.6/6.4
These figures are totally inaccurate , and this is why, many manufactures put down lower performance figures to try and give the car a lower insurance rating , I know most know that the 130bhp claimed is more like 145-150bhp with most cars. Classic example was the 306 gti-6 claim of 0-60 in 8.5 sec. It was but the car had 5 adults and boot full of luggage and it didn’t fool the insurance companies either , it was more nearer to the 7sec mark.
I didn’t get a chance to do 0-60 however 30-70 I manages 7.4 sec ? ( in 3rd average two runs) that’s well off the 8.9 sec claimed.
I recon 0-60 is more like 8.5 standard on I Ibiza 130 tdi
Still should a remapped 130 be better than this or is my car remapped?
Best ever race I managed to beat a leon 170bhp tdi ( by a car length)
If 7.4 sec is standard surly if I remap it will be stunning in mid range?
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Well stripping ALOT of weight out of the car and having a map :S Its not a hard combination to understand is it?
Unless I missed it, the OP didn't mention anything about stripping A LOT of weight. Only a remap.
So you are right, it's not a hard combination to understand but it's also not hard to read either.
Therefore, I stand by my comment of shaving 3 secs off your 0-60 with only a remap is bollox.
And jaz205gti - how did you measure your 30-70 time? (7.4 secs) As for the 0-60, I 've witnessed a Clio Sport nail a pd160 to 60, and the Clio's times are lucky to break the 7 secs mark.
well got a stop watch flat ground put it into 3rd at 30 and put my put down ?
maybe a clio could beat a 160 0-60 however in real life driving mid range punch of tdi will out preform a clio sport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtswUgvhdU
above link proves it
if a remap improves 130 tdi by 40 bhp and 70 lbs torque 3 sec off 0-100 is believable
maybe a clio could beat a 160 0-60 however in real life driving mid range punch of tdi will out preform a clio sport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtswUgvhdU
above link proves it
if a remap improves 130 tdi by 40 bhp and 70 lbs torque 3 sec off 0-100 is believable
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Yes, but it's not as good a direct comparison of cars run up on the same rolling road by the same operator, on the same day.
For one thing, the cars are all doing a controlled 'rolling start', so there's no real room for 'driver error' in this respect, whereas a 1/4 mile sprint involves a lot more variables and opportunities to come up with a flawed result.
Stop watch timing = FAIL! This is maybe the most inaccurate way of timing car acceleration, other than counting in your head.
Yes, mid-range punch will just out perform a Clio Sport but I was referring to 0-60, where you will not shave off 3 seconds with a remap. And your link does not show mid range punch - mid range punch is when you are rolling at a certain speed and then floor it without changing gear, which does not happen on a drag race.
3 secs off 0-100 might be a tad optomistic. My 160 does 0-100 in roughly 17 secs. No way will it do it in 14 with a remap to say 200bhp/300lbs/ft. 14 secs is RB5 quick.
Don't get me wrong, a remap will be noticable but not so much off the line.
in the video the curpra comes back hard in mid range 30-70mph indicating better mid range and you can see that in the video?
im sorry i dont need rr and all the other tests as me driving and stop watch shows me real life driving performance and figures.
130 tdi states 0-60 9.4 thats the smae as a saxo vtr however in real life driving the saxo wouldnt stand a chance? tdi has more than twice the pulling power.
iv read standard 130 tdi ibiza is around 21 sec 0-100. if remaped ( giving more power than a standard cupra 180ish ) surley the 17sec you qoute for your cupra makes perfect sence to me as most people state a remaped 130 does 0-100 in around 17-18 sec ?
and you get a better gain from the 130pd over the 160 cupra with a remap
im sorry i dont need rr and all the other tests as me driving and stop watch shows me real life driving performance and figures.
130 tdi states 0-60 9.4 thats the smae as a saxo vtr however in real life driving the saxo wouldnt stand a chance? tdi has more than twice the pulling power.
iv read standard 130 tdi ibiza is around 21 sec 0-100. if remaped ( giving more power than a standard cupra 180ish ) surley the 17sec you qoute for your cupra makes perfect sence to me as most people state a remaped 130 does 0-100 in around 17-18 sec ?
and you get a better gain from the 130pd over the 160 cupra with a remap
I struggle alot against my mates 182 trophy.. Midrange we are pretty even, as is 0-60 and he kicks my arse on top end.. Cant deny the 182's are fast, hell my mate struggles in his Astra GSI to catch them!
antnee
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You saying you do a standing start 1/4 mile in 14secs @100mph in a 190bhp tdi?
Need more like 230bhp, hybrid turbo too
How do you know the Clio driver didn't fluff a gear change?
How do you know the Cupra driver couldn't have launched better?
You don't.
before getting my leon i had a megane dci 130, pretty similar performance to the ibiza id guess, i raced a mate a few times in his golf gt tdi at the time, his was a 130, he would just edge me out every time. got it mapped to 165, and the difference was crazy. i mapped my fr from 200 to high 230's with superchips, and the remap on the megane was much more noticable. anyone who says it doesnt really effect the 0-60 time must be doing something wrong. i went from a best 0-60 of 8.8 to 7.5, tested with me and a mate in the car, he had a stopwatch and said when to go, then read the speedo himself to 60. likewise, we did the same in his impreza prodrive which was around 305 i think, and he made 4.2. id say these figures will still be slightly out, maybe .2/3 faster than what they should have been, but they still show the improvement. the company i got the megane mapped at did a lot of their custom mapping on the open road with a laptop, and could log 0-60,0-100,1/4 mile times etc, said the average improvement on a diesel was roughly that a 30bhp increase on a car that weighs 1 ton would be approx 1 second 0-60, so with the ibiza, the map would give more power than my remapped megane, the car would be lighter, and so there would be an increase of maybe 1.2-1.4 secs if that statement was accurate. either way, there definately is an good increase
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You saying you do a standing start 1/4 mile in 14secs @100mph in a 190bhp tdi?
No, with real 190bhp it is doable. With 190"tuner"bhp NOT.....
Mine on the right lane, #123:
At this time i had about 190-195bhp
With real 230bhp you come close to 14.0, with luck even under 14.
Greets, Alex
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