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Help! My 52 Seat Ibiza SE 1.4 won't start!

Bethany12

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It starts up alright but after a short journey decides it doesn't want to start! Does anyone know what this could be? I need help! Thanks alot! Bethany. :D
 

Nath.

The Gentlemans Express
Jan 1, 2006
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cold starting is fine but warm/hot starting is not?

If this is the case you MAY have a faulty engine temp sensor (not the coolant temp needle on the dash) the engine has a number of temp sensors.

I don't know how old you are but if you remember cars having a choke knob, your electronic choke knob is stuck in the on position. :D
 

Bethany12

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Yeah does sound like that...but after long journeys it starts up fine..it's just after short journeys it decides to not start up. It doesn't do this all the time though..strange :/..do you think it would be a big job to do? or could i get my dad to do it..he always used to be under cars.. thanks alot. And i'm only 18 so haven't a clue about chokes ha!
 

Bethany12

Guest
cold starting is fine but warm/hot starting is not?

If this is the case you MAY have a faulty engine temp sensor (not the coolant temp needle on the dash) the engine has a number of temp sensors.

I don't know how old you are but if you remember cars having a choke knob, your electronic choke knob is stuck in the on position. :D

Yeah does sound like that...but after long journeys it starts up fine..it's just after short journeys it decides to not start up. It doesn't do this all the time though..strange :/..do you think it would be a big job to do? or could i get my dad to do it..he always used to be under cars.. thanks alot. And i'm only 18 so haven't a clue about chokes ha!
 

RUM4MO

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Jun 4, 2008
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Yeah does sound like that...but after long journeys it starts up fine..it's just after short journeys it decides to not start up. It doesn't do this all the time though..strange :/..do you think it would be a big job to do? or could i get my dad to do it..he always used to be under cars.. thanks alot. And i'm only 18 so haven't a clue about chokes ha!


Sorry about the flippant postings - I assumed that your car was a 1.2 - but a 1.4, that IS serious as my wife has a 1.4 engine in her Polo! I'd still start with the temperature sensor, as implied in a previous reply, the gauge reading is not what the engine management system looks at.

And when your dad buys VAG-COM he can look and see what temperatures these sensors are claiming to see!! (early father's day present!)
 

Bethany12

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I've bought a VAG-COM for my dad early fathers day and christmas present! hopefully get it sorted when it arrives! Thanks for all your help :)
 

stezo2k

Anjuna Monkey
Mar 15, 2008
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Dudley
heh im sure you'll get sorted soon :) the ibizas are usually pretty reliable, just sounds like you're having a few teething problems

that your car in your avatar? i didnt know you could get candy white in a 52 plate. love the colour though, i really want a white one myself
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Bethany12

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After a bit of messing about my Dad got the lead to work with vag-com and got these error messages:-

Friday, 17 April 2009, 17:53:18

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S



Control Module Part Number: 036 906 034 AH

Component and/or Version: MARELLI 4MV 4834

Software Coding: 00071

Work Shop Code: WSC 01225

Additional Info: VSSZZZ6LZ3R040176 SEZ7Z0B1676924

2 Faults Found:

16785 - EGR System: Insufficient Flow

P0401 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62): Signal too High

P0118 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent



Hopefully this will mean something to someone...thanks alot.. Bethany
 

Bethany12

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heh im sure you'll get sorted soon :) the ibizas are usually pretty reliable, just sounds like you're having a few teething problems

that your car in your avatar? i didnt know you could get candy white in a 52 plate. love the colour though, i really want a white one myself

yeah it is thanks alot..saw it and loved it! but turning out to be a pain haha..no i've not seen any about either :) at least people will see me coming!
 
Mar 16, 2008
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Looks like its your temp sensor is faulty (fault code 16502). Replace this and all your problems should go away!.

The EGR valve shouldnt affect the starting of the car, but may affect its running performance if it is faulty. When youve fixed the temp sensor try reseting the codes, and see if the EGR code comes back as it may just have been a glitch.
 

stezo2k

Anjuna Monkey
Mar 15, 2008
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Dudley
yeah it is thanks alot..saw it and loved it! but turning out to be a pain haha..no i've not seen any about either :) at least people will see me coming!
it'll be worth it in the end :) sounds like its only a small problem anyway which is good. i just love candy white seats, they're sexual. want to swap? :p worth a try heh

good luck
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Bethany12

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it'll be worth it in the end :) sounds like its only a small problem anyway which is good. i just love candy white seats, they're sexual. want to swap? :p worth a try heh

good luck

Haha worth a try! But i could never give my brum away now! Not after all it's put me through haha..and thanks yeah should all be sorted now got the new parts ETC so see how it goes :) thanks to everyone for all the help!
 

RUM4MO

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Haha worth a try! But i could never give my brum away now! Not after all it's put me through haha..and thanks yeah should all be sorted now got the new parts ETC so see how it goes :) thanks to everyone for all the help!

Hi, just remember to post back on what has happened, remember to buy a new O-ring seal and retaining clip for the coolant sensor. If your sensor is black then it is the original one, they are green now! The EGR code could end up being due to that valve and its pipework needing cleaned out of soot etc. My wife's Polo is a 52 reg 2003MY with a BBY engine so maybe its EGR system will need cleaning out soon!
 
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